Talk:List of battery types

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Oi! This reads like an advertisement. Please revise:

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Thin-Film Batteries[edit]

I see there's no mention of Thin-Film Batteries such as those made by Infinite Power Solutions. Maybe someone could add that?

Likewise Potassium Hydroxide batteries. The DOT singles them out with specific shipping requirements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.18.16.11 (talk) 19:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Title search[edit]

>> I note that typing the title of this page into the search bar doesn't bring it up, but I don't know how to work the wiki intricacies to fix this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.9.128.124 (talk) 16:11, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move[edit]

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The result of the proposal was consensus against move

List of battery types → List of cell types — A battery is simply a pair of cells. This article deals around the specifics of the cells —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.90.148 (talk • contribs) 12:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. Many of the items listed here have more than one cell. The present title is clearer and more accurate. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Battery is the common name and the name of the list should reflect that. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 14:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose and suggest speedy close (is that possible?). This is not what the general public would be looking for. HumphreyW (talk) 15:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose not everything here is a "cell" 76.66.197.30 (talk) 16:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The term "battery" is almost always used by consumers, battery manufacturers, etc. TJ Spyke 17:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Does anyone realize how ambiguous cell is? Clearly the proposed name is totally and completely unusable. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Converted to multimove. 199.125.109.96 (talk) 00:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Comparison of battery types[edit]

A new article Comparison of electrochemical batteries or Comparison of battery types need to be made.

Some coumns to be made include:

Power density (25°C): in W/kg
(Theoretic) Energy density (at 25°C): in Wh/kg
Price
Life expectancy
Self-decharge (eg around <5%/month or more)

This article could eg also mention that lithium-ion batteries are heavily weather-affected (eg they only provide 10% of their power in cold climates (under -30°Celcius).

It should also be mentioned that batteries mostly cannot be created at a environmentally-friendly manner. An extra strain is that lithium-batteries (which are the most used) are made of lithium which is mined in South-America (often without much environmental consideration) -->mention in column environmental rating for production

PS: I already made an article called Metal-air electrochemical cell with a graph that could prove useful KVDP (talk) 08:45, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Polapulse "battery"[edit]

I removed the link to Polapulse. I can find no reference to show that it is actually a type of battery. It appears to be more of a marketing brand name for Polaroid. There is no information about what it does that would make it a new type of battery. HumphreyW (talk) 09:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Polapulse battery was developed for the SX 70 film packs and was later commercialized as a separate product. It had a unique shape and size and was considered an innovation at the time because it was so well matched to its intended application. Rather than deleting any reference to it, let's add some content to the articles to make it more useful. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:01, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also please notice we have articles on AA battery, AAA battery, etc. - it's not like Wikipedia isn't a gold mine of train-spotters guides to trivia. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:03, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is in serious need of references then. Please provide. We can't have un-cited and unreferenced stuff, we gotta show a source. HumphreyW (talk) 13:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Anyone could do it. In 20 minutes I found three usable references. I'm a little embarrased to be the only one adding references to the Polaroid SX-70 article in support of my obsession with batteries; that article needs more TLC, but I'm not the photo buff to do it. Even a quick troll through Google Books shows lots of history for the SX 70 and books on photo manipulation. But my purpose is accomplished. Three million articles, and only a few thousand active editors, makes for spotty coverage on some items.

If all the uncited and unreferenced stuff disappeared off Wikipedia tonight, tomorrow you'd be able to fit the whole thing on a CD. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zinc Manganese[edit]

Maxell claims it makes Zinc Manganese batteries which is not listed in the table. I suspect these are Zinc chloride by another name. Can someone more chemical minded confirm this?

If so should we add this type as Maxell is a major seller of batteries in the World and people may come to the Wiki to find out about it? --Quatermass (talk) 21:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tertiary battery[edit]

We have an IP hopping editor (who is probably User:RickyGillyJack not logged in) repeatedly adding "Tertiary battery" to the title of the third column of the table. I have reverted this as nonsense several times, but just to check that I am not mistakenly beating up an inexperienced editor, does anyone disagree that this is not a recognised concept, and even if it is, the table entries are not related to it? Spinning Spark 16:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not familiar to me. Google Books only turns up one snippet that sounds vaguely related, and the Linden battery handbook is mute on this subject. However, my competence at technical matters has been repeatedly and loudly doubted by the august faculty of this organization, so what does it matter what I think. --Wtshymanski (talk) 23:36, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you link to the snippet? What does it say? When I looked at gbooks I mostly got stuff about naval artillery. Spinning Spark 01:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Electrical Review for 1891, volume 28, snippet at [1] but the term seems extinct otherwise. It's not appropriate in the 3rd column of the table in any case, it's just vandalism. --Wtshymanski (talk) 03:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed this is disruption. I did not want to be seen to use administrative powers to win an editing dispute, but if there is consensus that this is simply disruption I will take the appropriate action if they return. The snippet you found appears to be a protologism invented by the author of UK patent GB0000236 which applies only to the patented invention and did not survive beyond 1891. In fact it probably did not survive the ink drying on the patent. Spinning Spark 14:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, tertiary battery is a real thing. https://dx.doi.org/10.1002/slct.201902340 says that they are a class of rechargeable batteries which recharge by absorbing heat. Erkin Alp Güney 16:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Solar battery[edit]

Is a solar battery considered a type of battery? I would assume not, what do others think? Vaughan Pratt (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have redirected that article to Rechargeable battery. Batteries charged by solar power can also be charged by other sources. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:26, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonesey95: I'm not convinced that redirecting is the right thing to do here. I agree that solar battery is not a type of battery, but it is a battery application, and quite an important one at that. It is discussed under that name quite extensively in sources. See this book for instance. The target article barely touches on this application and certainly does not contain the material that was in the source article. SpinningSpark 12:21, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the solar battery article before I redirected it, it was essentially a coat rack for all sorts of rechargeable battery descriptions. At a minimum, it would need a nuke and rewrite, but if solar batteries are inherently rechargeable, the material could start as a section of this page and then be forked to its own article if size justifies the split. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:35, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

can we make the title more specific,[edit]

i think this is chemical-electric batteries - the term battery has also been broadly applied to gravity battery and I do not think that fits in this list. if we make it more specific, confusion will be avoided.MfortyoneA (talk) 18:42, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. We go with the common names of things. --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm against a name change. Sure, there are other things called batteries, but we don't need to disambiguate chicken battery farms either. SpinningSpark 22:23, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]