Talk:Münster rebellion

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Source[edit]

Concerning Matthys' private parts nailed to a gate - I am not lobbying for inclusion or exclusion. The info, though undocumented, is found in Anthony Arthur's "The Tailor King" on page 66. - Rlvaughn 04:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

I'm not involved in making this article, but I would like to point out that the rebellion burned a lot of the town's records so it might be more difficult to get sources for this article. Some references to secondary sources might be nice though. I will do so if I get the chance. --Kraftlos (talk) 22:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If secondary sources are okay, the Cohn book, Pursuit of the Millenium, is the place to start, as it has an excellent chapter on the Munster rebellion.

Naming Your Sources?[edit]

Did the author of the Anabaptists page at http://www.worldspirituality.org/anabaptists.html crib from the Wikipedia page on the Münster rebellion, or have the word-for-word quotes been taken by the wikipedia-author from that page? In my view, such quotes should be shown to be quotes. If Wikipedia is the source, please get rid of this question. 74.71.249.187 02:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath[edit]

The writer (a writer?) says, in the "Aftermath" section:

The Mennonites, for example, have been identified with the earlier Anabaptists, on the ground that they included among their number many former Münster Anabaptists. But if the continuity of a sect is traced in its principles, and not in its adherents, then the Mennonites had little do with their violent, polygamous predecessors.

With respect, this is nonsense. Why are we interested in the aftermath at all? Because some Anabaptists, exposed to the insanities of Bockelson, changed their minds. The aftermath consists of, precisely, that change of mind, and perhaps the pacific ideas of the Mennonites are a direct response to the violence and madness of Bockelson's (aka King John's) rule. The use of "if" in the second sentence is, in short, a classic weasel word, since there is no reason to accept that conditional assertion. It's just a way for a current-day Mennonite to express his/her fear that somebody, somewhere, might link his/her sect with a bad history. Get over it. Many Christian sects have bad histories. Our obligation here, as historians, is to speak the truth, not to cringe and make obfuscatory statements about the past for fear of what people might think in the present.70.79.138.123 (talk) 16:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It always depends on your definitions. If we define "Anabaptism" as "following the Schleitheim confession" (as most scholars due today) then quite obviously, the Münster Rebellion was not an Anabaptist movement. EternallyNow (talk) 19:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rebellion?[edit]

In the country where it happened, the matter has never been called "rebellion" but the "Münster baptist empire" which can still be found in all history books of the Federal Republic of Germany as "Täuferreich von Münster".

why did the guild craft supported the polygamy in Münster Rebellion?[edit]

why did the guild craft supported the polygamy in Münster Rebellion?--84.110.1.114 (talk) 19:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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