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"Since its inception, the band has been credited for 30 innovative techniques which have become standard operating procedures for many high school and collegiate marching band programs."[edit]

A discussion of what those techniques are seems like it would be a good thing to have in this article, much more so than some of what is currently there. Is anyone capable of writing this? Bullofconfusion (talk) 16:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Robert Champion[edit]

User:JustRealMC has twice removed the paragraph about the death of Robert Champion, the second time with the edit summary, "The information described the the 2nd paragraph of this section is about an incident involving INDIVIDUAL members of the organization and should not be included in its history since the organization itself had no official part in it." However, the death occurred during an official event of the band, on a bus being used by the band for travel. News accounts attribute the death to hazing. It has been reported that hazing has long been a prominent part of the culture of the band. When the university administration tried to dismiss the band director over the death, he charged that he had been warning the administration for years about the problem of hazing in the band. It does not matter that the band had no "official" part in Mr. Champion's death. Mr. Champion died as the result of a beating he reportedly received from other band members as part of a hazing ritual. -- Donald Albury 12:30, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before reading this, I just added a new section with copious references regarding this event, which clearly involves not just an individual, but a large portion of the band at a band event on the band's bus, and resulted in a firing & un-firing of the director. This band has a history of serious, illegal, hazing which has resulted in this death. If the band's positive press (uncited, by the way) can be recorded here, including such team events as "1971 - Professor Julian E. White joined the Florida A&M University Music Department" and "1971 - Elliott Seagraves became the first white student to march in the Marching 100" and "1998 Dr. Shelby Chipman joined the staff as Assistant to the Director of Bands", then so can its negative press. Band hazing is not an individual thing, but institutional. I don't have the resources to come back here to re-post my section if it gets deleted, so hopefully others can be watchful. 24.57.210.141 (talk) 06:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the recent addition by 24.57.210.141 here, as it duplicates the second paragraph of the History section,

==Homicide== On November 19, 2011, drum major Robert Champion, Jr.^[1] was severely beaten aboard the band's chartered bus, while it was in the parking lot of the Rosen Plaza Hotel.^[2] Robert died from his injuries that same day.^[3] The medical examiner ruled his death a homicide.^[4] Robert died after a hazing ritual known as "Crossing Bus C", in which Robert would have had to walk the length of the bus while being beaten and kicked by other band members.^[5] One other band member went through that ritual just before Robert.^[6] As of this writing, the case is with the Ninth Circuit State Attorney's office,^[7] where prosecutors have not declared an intention to charge anyone.^[8]

Some of this material, and especially the citations, can be merged into the existing paragraph, but I don't have the time right now. -- Donald Albury 11:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Drum major who died in hazing was 'Mr. Band'". knoxnews.com. 28 November 2011 +. Retrieved 18 April 2012. He was a drum major for the famed Marching 100 band of Florida A&M University... {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); horizontal tab character in |date= at position 19 (help)
^ "FAMU drum major recalls moments before Robert Champion's death". wftv.com. 21 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. Keon Hollis ... and Champion boarded the bus outside the Rosen Plaza Hotel in November to go through the ritual called 'Crossing Bus C.'
^ "Drum major who died in hazing was 'Mr. Band'". knoxnews.com. 28 November 2011. Retrieved 18 April 2012. On Nov. 19 ... Champion collapsed on a bus ... When authorities arrived about 9:45 p.m., Champion was unresponsive. He died at a nearby hospital.
^ "Death of Florida A&M's Robert Champion ruled a homicide". BBC. 16 December 2011. Retrieved 18 April 2012. The death ... has been ruled a homicide by the state medical examiner.
^ "Crossing the line for camaraderie". ESPN. 25 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. ... members pummeled and kicked Robert as he crossed Bus C, making his way from the front to the back, the bus rocking and swaying all the while ...
^ "FAMU drum major recalls moments before Robert Champion's death". wftv.com. 21 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. Hollis ... was exhausted from his own beating and then he watched Champion go through the gauntlet of punches and kicks.
^ "FAMU hazing death case of Robert Champion turned over to prosecutors". CBSNEWS. 27 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. ... the Ninth Circuit State Attorney's office ... received a case package from the Orange County Sheriff's Office involving the investigation ...
^ "FAMU hazing death case of Robert Champion turned over to prosecutors". CBSNEWS. 27 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. ... no charges have been filed involving his case. Prosecutors won't say if or when they plan to file charges.

Majorettes?[edit]

An IP has repeatedly attempted to add mention of a supposedly associated group of majorettes called the Diamonds. The addition is unsourced and I can find no mention of the Diamonds on the Marching 100 website. Meters (talk) 18:45, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On further investigation, this unsourced claim has been inserted by multiple IPs, starting more than one year ago [1], The same IP who made that first also inserted the claim into Florida A&M University at the same time [2], but with the additional info that the group only performs in the stands (suggesting that it is nothing but an informal group of fans). Meters (talk) 19:03, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will revert any further additions of this claim as vandalism unless a reliable source is provided. Meters (talk) 19:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copywritten banner under "Motto" section[edit]

@BubbaJoe123456, know you've been involved in this page as well. It looks like there is the below banner added to the "Motto" section that links to this page, however the text that the banner cites does not appear on on that webpage. Do you have thoughts as to how to handle this? (possibly the banner can be removed or the section of the article can be deleted)

Editchecker123 (talk) 05:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Drum major who died in hazing was 'Mr. Band'". knoxnews.com. 28 November 2011 +. Retrieved 18 April 2012. He was a drum major for the famed Marching 100 band of Florida A&M University... {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); horizontal tab character in |date= at position 19 (help)

[2] "FAMU drum major recalls moments before Robert Champion's death". wftv.com. 21 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. Keon Hollis ... and Champion boarded the bus outside the Rosen Plaza Hotel in November to go through the ritual called 'Crossing Bus C.'

[3] "Drum major who died in hazing was 'Mr. Band'". knoxnews.com. 28 November 2011. Retrieved 18 April 2012. On Nov. 19 ... Champion collapsed on a bus ... When authorities arrived about 9:45 p.m., Champion was unresponsive. He died at a nearby hospital.

[4] "Death of Florida A&M's Robert Champion ruled a homicide". BBC. 16 December 2011. Retrieved 18 April 2012. The death ... has been ruled a homicide by the state medical examiner.

[5] "Crossing the line for camaraderie". ESPN. 25 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. ... members pummeled and kicked Robert as he crossed Bus C, making his way from the front to the back, the bus rocking and swaying all the while ...

[6] "FAMU drum major recalls moments before Robert Champion's death". wftv.com. 21 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. Hollis ... was exhausted from his own beating and then he watched Champion go through the gauntlet of punches and kicks.

[7] "FAMU hazing death case of Robert Champion turned over to prosecutors". CBSNEWS. 27 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. ... the Ninth Circuit State Attorney's office ... received a case package from the Orange County Sheriff's Office involving the investigation ...

[8] "FAMU hazing death case of Robert Champion turned over to prosecutors". CBSNEWS. 27 March 2012. Retrieved 18 April 2012. ... no charges have been filed involving his case. Prosecutors won't say if or when they plan to file charges.

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