Talk:Mile Budak

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Whitewashing the real Budak's past[edit]

The article, as written, is miserable - written counting on people's naivety to buy it paying the declared face value for it.

Defenders claim he was an accomplished author who served as "Minister of Culture" of the Independent State of Croatia. Mile Budak was also Minister of Religion, Education and Cults, and his signature is at the bottom of some of the most infamous decrees of the Ustase regime, and provided the Ustase's ideological backbone as a Goebbels-style propagandist. Uttered that the goal of the Ustase regime was to "kill a third, expel a third, and convert a third" of the Serbian population. Also initialed the anti-Semitic measures introduced within days of the Ustase taking power in April, 1 Born in Sveti Rok (Saint Rocco) and trained as a lawyer. Recognized as a writer of middling originality and imagination, primarily from his poetry and short stories and later his novels such as The Hearth. Attacked by militants of the pro-Serb "Young Yugoslavia" organization in broad daylight in June 1934. The assault fractured his skull and shortly thereafter he went abroad, joining the Ustase.

Named doglavnik (deputy leader) of the NDH and placed in charge of preserving and translating Ustase ideology to Croats. His belief that Muslims and Croats were the same people who held different religions was accepted by most other Ustase leaders (though Serbs he considered "wandering beggars from the East whom the Turks brought along as servants and porters.") As the NDH's chief cultural figure, tried to persuade artists and writers to support the new regime with varying degrees of success. The great Croat novelist Miroslav Krleza lampooned Budak as "a minister of culture with a machine gun," and sculptor Ivan Mestrovic was imprisoned for several months after he came to Zagreb not to make busts of the poglavnik but to ask Budak for a passport out of the country.

Budak's position was made redundant once the Jewish and Roma problems in the NDH were "solved" by their extermination, and he was shuffled around to other positions, including Foreign Minister. Eventually fell out of favor following the internal strife within the NDH government involving the Kvaterniks. Made a trip to Rome and greatly impressed Ustase supporters at the Vatican. One of the few Ustase political leaders captured after the war and executed.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.18.16.251 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 13 January 2006

This i have found over Budak on german Wiki: Budak represented in his offices a Croatian nationalist and anti-Serb position and expressed, for example, on 6 June 1941 in Križevci: "The Serbs have come into our territories, because they followed the Turkish gangs when looters and scum from the Balkans. We can not allow our nation state govern two peoples. There is only one God, and there is only one nation that ruled: and this is the Croatian people. Those who have come into our country two or three hundred years ago, like to go back there, where did they come [...] You have to know that we are a state with two beliefs: Catholic and Muslim [24]. "

Budak was also considered an ideologue of the Ustasha movement, whose aim was "by all means to liberate even the armed uprising, Croatia from foreign yoke, so it is a separate and independent state on all its ethnic and historical territory" [25 ] and whose reign was marred by numerous atrocities.

In this capacity, he represented two main theses:

"1 The Croats are a very specific original ethnic unit which they are not a part of another people, and from them and other tribes together can make no third people. Special attention must be emphasized that there has never been in the past a Serbo-Croatian, Croatian-Serbian or Yugoslav people and that there is no such course today. [26] "

"2 The Croats are Slavic language group, but their descent they are obviously a crossroads Slavic and Gothic blood, Croats, and we believe that we are a very successful cross of this kind. [26] "

On 22 June 1941 should have Mile Budak [27] announced as Minister of Education: "The Ustasha movement based on religion. For minorities - Serbs, Jews, Gypsies - we have three million bullets. One third of the Serbs we shall kill, deport another third and the last third will be forced into the arms of the Roman Catholic religion and thus make Croats. Thus, our new Croatia will eliminate all Serbs with us and be one hundred percent Catholic within ten years. [28] "

For this quote attributed to him and the slogan "SRBE na Vrbe" (! Depends on the Serbs to the willows) said Budak itself: "It is said, I would have invented and propagated. However, this is an old Austrian slogan of the First World War, and not mine! So it is the truth, I am the author of the slogan: One third of slaughter, sell one-third [29] "! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.99.30.20 (talk) 11:40, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Citation added[edit]

The only reference cited above was http://www.pavelicpapers.com/documents/budak/. That page was part of an extremely well researched resource. Alas the whole website has been removed from the internet so I have deleted the reference to it from the above comment.

Budak's exposition of how the Ustaše regime in which he was a minister intended to deal with its Serb minority is well documented and is an important factor in determining that the regime's attempt to wipe out an ethnic group was premeditated - rendering the attempt genocidal within both the Lemkin and UN definitions. I have provided references and lifted the article's qualifying tags. In due course I will add references for some of the other content, all of which is likely to be significantly less controversial than the content I have already addressed.

I have modified Budak's ministerial title in a way that I hope need not be challenged. Sometimes it has been expressed as Minister for/of Education and Cults, and Minister of Education and Theology. The title I have given him fairly describes in English the scope of his ministerial department. Kirker 16:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fascist writer?[edit]

I'm going to delete "fascist" from the phrase "fascist polititician and writer" in the opening sentence. One problem is that it might be read as applying to both nouns. That ambiguity could be resolved by reversing the nouns, but I assume Jay Litman put them in their present order in recognition of their relative significance, and I support that. It could be argued that Budak was less a fascist a la Mussolini and more a Nazi a la Hitler. Anyway the reader has to go only a few words beyond my deletion to find that he was a clero-fascist - a term that seems to have been coined specifically to categorise Ustaše idealogy.Kirker 10:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good call. Budak was a fascist politician, but indeed was not a fascist writer. GregorB (talk) 22:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

February 2009[edit]

I've purified the existing text, found a number of references supporting the existing text and the added ones.--71.252.55.101 (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The infamous quote[edit]

Heraklit, please provide evidence - using reliable sources - that Budak in fact did not say it.[1] GregorB (talk) 12:25, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]