Talk:New York State Route 73/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    Way too much unencyclopediac writing, and the overall prose just isn't especially good. Some random examples:
  • A few bends and turns later, the ski jump built for the 1980 Winter Olympic Games pokes up from the woods. "Pokes" is poor writing.
  • During the winter months visitors can ride bobsleds (driven by trained professionals) down the runs themselves for a fee; this is the closest many will get to experiencing the real thing. Poorly written, irrelevent to the route, and I doubt that is in the map reference.
  • A beautiful summer day will always see many cars parked along the road leading up to the trailhead, as this is one of the most popular hikes in the area. Again, unencyclopediac language, and original research.
  1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Fails. First, that map is not a reliable source, and I can be sure that much of the information in the route description is not backed up by that source.
  2. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    The route description goes too far off-topic, listing information about cross-country skiing and such.
  3. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    "A beautiful summer day..." is not neutral. There are other examples of this, as well.
  • I think you're missing something here: it is the "beautiful summer day" that causes the trailhead parking overflow. It's not promotional, pov writing, it's factually accurate: on a rainy day, the trailhead parking is empty. Might or might not be OR, but it shouldn't be hard to find a source-- the ADK High Peaks guide comes to mind. -- Mwanner | Talk 16:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • But even if you do find a source, it is still irrelevent to the route and is still unencyclopediac tone. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The tone wouldn't be hard to fix ("in fine weather...") and I have trouble finding any situation that frequently causes the shoulders of a road to become lined with cars to be irrelevant to an article about that road, but let it pass. As for the ref., see Goodwin, Tony, ed., Adirondack Trails, High Peaks Region, Lake George, New York: Adirondack Mountain Club, 2004. ISBN 1-931951-05-5, p. 163. -- Mwanner | Talk 21:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  2. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  3. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Sorry, but this is nowhere near being considered "good". The route description especially is full of original research, unencyclopediac tone, and information not in the source. Also, the lead needs to be reworked, as currently it consists of a bunch of general and uninformative statements. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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