Talk:Occupy Nigeria

Disaster

What a disaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crescentshadow (talk • contribs) 21:17, January 4, 2012‎

Blanking of this page

Crescentshadow, as I understand it, talk pages aren't supposed to be blanked. I've reverted your edit: please explain your rationale — Life in General ^Talk/_Stalk 02:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Neutrality issues

This is clearly an important and newsworthy set of protests, and this article is a competent introduction to some of the events that have transpired. It reads like an editorial in places, though, and given the increased visibility of these protests, I think it would be wise to edit to tone down some of the partisanship and anti-Jonathan tone. I'm happy to take a first pass at this, but wanted to see whether others shared my perception and concerns. Ethanz (talk) 19:01, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Agreed - blatant bias such as a section entitled "Hope for the Future" is the least of the problem areas. Tabercil (talk) 00:40, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Neutrality Issues/anti-Jonathan tone

@Ethanz @Tabercil Clearly, I agree with you on that, however, the article is still young and I guess there are only a few of us currently contributing/developing the article. However, I am sure the Nigerian Federal Ministry of information would be all over it in a few days to include their views and debunk several of the claims presently included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usiola (talk • contribs) 00:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, you are right about some areas appearing biased. I heavily edited some areas over yesternite(though without signing in as I have only just created an account now)and added more opinions (generally introduced these as claims not facts) from different quarters to make it more balanced. I however didn't get to the Jonathan's Admin /Hope for the Future sections because I don't have enough facts to make a thorough edit. In addition, it would be nice if someone could get sources(journals,reports etc) to corroborate the statements made throughout the piece.--Olaotan1 (talk) 02:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

@Olaotan Personally, I do not see the relevance of the hope of the future section because it reflect the personal opinion of the author...Still trying to know who created/added the section and would recommend it for removal/editting while we await the outcome of the protests itself.

Hi, I agree with you that the 'Hope for Nigeria' section should be deleted as it is a personal opinion. It might have been written anonymously (and the opinion/permission of the writer can therefore, not be sought).--Olaotan1 (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree with the statements above regarding the "Hope for Nigeria" part as it's heavily biased. That's something that, if we could point to it at the source, could be used as a source for information elsewhere in the article. As it stands, I've pulled it out. Tabercil (talk) 05:14, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Article style etc

Hi Everyone, good work so far.

I think the article needs to be re-written for context and style so it reads more like an Encyclopedia and less like a blog. I will try and do some edits this afternoon but I though to mention this here to avoid conflict or doubling up on work. We also need more references to traditional newsmedia and for the article to be linked to the sources. Akinsope (talk) 08:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

PIB (Petro Industry Bill)

I think the petrol subsidy issue is a bit out of context without at least highlighting the recently failed PIB -- a restructuring of ALL of Nigeria's massive oil & gas sector and its regulating & satellite agencies. Also, Jonathan is the 1st Delta president and the amnesty he implemented as VP under Yar'Adua had at least slowed down the extrajudicial killings in the Niger Delta by the MEND rebels, quasi-MEND terrorists, black marketeers and JTF, so these peaceful Occupy protests are a contrast to the previous Wild West skirmishing and occasional acts of genocide that are well-documented by human rights groups in Nigeria's recent past.

Oil minister Deziani Alison-Madueke failed to deliver a PIB with any transparency or credibility and the Delta residents, transnational oil firms, eco-NGOs, academics, ... declared her new vision of Nigeria's oil & gas sectors a failure. The splintering of this new free-market petrol supply plan by Minister Alison-Madueke followed directly from the death of her PIB. Minister DAM's role in this crisis is sourcable many ways, as are the various sordid tales of corruption and illegality underlying Occupy Nigeria's frustrations, but I'll leave that to others to post inside the article (it's not my place to speak for what may become the most significant civil uprising in Nigeria since the Biafran war).209.77.246.141 (talk) 20:40, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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Introduction Length

Hi, I believe the tag concerning the legth of introduction being too long can be removed. The proportion to the length of the arcticle is okay and I the comment is no longer relevant in my opinion--Olaotan1 (talk) 05:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

"Occupy" name

• Can the "Occupy" term really be used for this protest? It seems to be becoming a quick tag that can easily be attached to any protest, whether or not it has to do with or is inspired by the original Occupy Wall Street protests. Unless there is a valid reason for this article to be named this (such as a large amount of the protesters using the name for themselves), which I couldn't see through a quick scan of the article, "2012 Nigerian Oil Subsidy Protests" or something along those lines might be a better, more neutral title. Jedibob5 (talk) 04:06, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

What other name would you suggest, because I think this name is appropriate for the protest.The people are basically protesting against the corruption that plagued the Nigerian government for decades. The people are asking questions about accountability. The fight now is no longer about removal of subsidy because, in recent days, a lot of economists and analysts, including government officials have showed us the reason why subsidy should be removed which i totally agree to. The people want government to eliminate the waste and tighten their belt, before asking people to make sacrifices. The name is perfect.-lagunjutimi

First off, I did suggest another name in my original post. Second off, even if the comparison can be drawn between the two, this is still an encyclopedia, and unless they are actually connected, or a reliable source uses the name for the protests, I do not think it is an appropriate name. Jedibob5 (talk) 19:21, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, the name is appropriate. It was severally referred to by that name by the protesters.--Olaotan1 (talk) 08:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Protest still on going?

Protest seems to have ended, and the article should reflect that.

I found a source that seems reliable- [1]

Jonpatterns (talk) 14:24, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Nice work. I've tried to update, but more work is needed... bobrayner (talk) 11:52, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

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