Talk:Old and New Lights

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Discussion[edit]

Lots of confusion here, and I don't see the point to being confused...during the Great Awakening in NJ especially the debates at Cape May, that occurred in the early 1700s the term "New Light" was used specifically to refer to the Presbyterians, and the term "Old Light" was used specifically to refer to the Baptists. There is some stuff about this at the State Library at Trenton, and there was a 19th C Book called something like "History of the Baptists" to which RADM HF Stout (an authority on the Finley Family of Presbyterian New Light Ministers) refers in his History of the Stout Family. The Stouts were appearantly Baptists, and I think maybe this book which I think is c 1824 refers to the actual people involved in it. John5Russell3Finley 23:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mention of "Newlights" in journal of Quaker minister[edit]

2601:19B:C600:C509:4094:5766:8040:891C (talk) 13:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)Stuart Mays[reply]

James Bellangee (1788-1853) was a Quaker minister whose journal and a few other writings are available online at http://dqc.esr.earlham.edu:8080/xmlmm/login.html

In 1833 he obtained a minute from his monthly meeting at Plainfield, Ohio to travel in the ministry, to "visit the people living on Captean Creek." (I believe this is known now as Captina Creek, and it's 60-70 miles from Plainfield.) It was common to appoint meetings along the way, and thus we have this mention of the Newlights on page 28 of the journal:

Then seven miles to Samuel Rina's, and had a meeting in a school-house, chiefly among the Newlights. The meeting was very large, and I had much to say against false ministry, and all dead forms and lifeless prayers and ceremonies at the table when they eat, for it would be mockery in me to bow the knee and call upon the Great Name, to be heard by men, unless I felt the spring of life in my own soul to move me to it; then may we not only bow the knee, but prostrate the soul also before the Lord. No man can preach the gospel by hearsay, for no evidence will be taken as truth, that is not an eye witness of what he says, neither can any man point out the way of the soul's salvation, unless he has had an experimental knowledge of a Saviour and a Redeemer, whose almighty and all-cleansing power reigns and rules in his heart. I think many were comforted, and some appeared convinced of the truth of the gospel. So, with the salutation of love, I bid them farewell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:19b:c600:c509:4094:5766:8040:891c (talk • contribs) 13:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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