Talk:Paiute War

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This article has questionable citations and completely excludes recollections from native perspectives. At least 700 Paiute were murdered in at least one "battle" at Mystic in Nevada. Almost all murdered were women, older men, and children. Less than 20 Paiute survived that massacre, half of them sold into slavery.

Citations: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/winnemucca/piutes/piutes.html http://www.amazon.com/Rights-Indians-Tribes-Third-Handbook/dp/080932475X

PropagandaHour (talk) 08:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your link to Life Among The Piutes by Sarah Winnemucca mentions the 1865 Battle of Mud Lake where 29 Paiute were killed. This article is about the 1860 Paiute war, so there is no mention of the 1865 Battle of Mud Lake. In "Life Among the Piutes" I did not find any mention of 700 Paiutes being murdered and I'm not aware of a place named "Mystic" in Nevada. The GNIS has a Mystic Spring near Rochester, Nevada in Pershing County and a Mystic Canyon near Boca, California. I was not able to find anything connected to the Paiutes at these locations. I don't have access to the other citation to which you refer. Could you be more specific? I agree that most of the citations are from White sources, though Myron Angel does include a first person account from an Indigenous person on p. 152. Cxbrx (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Dead[edit]

The number of dead is as follows:

Williams Station massacre: 4 Whites killed
First Battle of Pyramid Lake: 76 Whites killed, about 29 wounded. About 10 Paiute wounded.
Battle of Williams Station: 2 Whites killed. 6 Paiute killed.
Second Battle of Pyramid Lake: 3 Whites killed, 5 wounded. 25 Paiute killed, about 20 wounded
Totals: 85 Whites killed, about 34 wounded. 31 Paiute killed about 30 wounded.

Not including the one dead station keeper at Cold Springs Pony Express Station Ruins. Not included the 12-13 dead near Williams Station that was reported in one newspaper, but is lacking other contemporary evidence. Cxbrx (talk) 02:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I see that 2600:1700:7270:2cb0:592f:6d14:bad8:dfa7 made an edit that changed the Whites casualties from 85 to 97+ and the Indigenous peoples casualties from 37 killed, about 30 wounded to "unknown". Is there a citation for this? If so, then I'd be happy to include it. If not, then we should go with the previous numbers.

Similar edits were made by 2600:1010:b12d:577f:91dc:4812:3931:8534 and 80.70.111.30. See also Talk:Second Battle of Pyramid Lake. Cxbrx (talk) 05:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]