Talk:Pleasure Ridge Park High School

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	Reasoning for assessment: Not much here and minimal references. Adam McCormick (talk) 03:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Football death[edit]

Is this really encyclopedic? Unless it results in a significant, long-term change to the football program or better yet, football programs at other schools, I don't think it is. Compare this to the allegations against a staff member at Prestonwood Baptist Church. These allegations are now a 2-sentence blurb in an article that is significantly longer than Pleasure Ridge Park High School. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 18:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In my research on this school, any national news story would be encyclopedic, for sure. Keep in mind that there are also national legal ramifications involved. -- Lucas20 (talk) 18:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a widely reported subject that dragged on for many months. While mentioning non-notable people who were involved may not be entirely necessary, I don't think we should be rubbing out legitimate content that is based on reliable sources. Also, while there is an appearance of a WP:WEIGHT problem, that is not so much due to this content, but due to the lack of other content about the school. At any rate, this content is something significant about the school, and that is why it's here. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 18:53, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John from Idegon, I added my thoughts above, so I'm pinging you to join the discussion. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 18:57, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed nn people from the material for the time-being. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 19:07, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for removing the names. In no way should either name ever go back, per BLPCRIME and NOTMEMORIAL. The AP reference is dead, so I see no significance beyond the local area. Sadly, kids die playing football every year. I agree with davidwr's argument above. Did anything change because of this? And yes there is a double pronged huge weight issue here. First, the only thing we have on athletics is this? Second, according to Wikipedia at this point, this school opened in 1958, nothing whatsoever happened for 51 years a kid died and it was a big deal for a while and then nothing else hapoened. See the problem? This single event is not the defining event in this school's history. Unless or until someone takes it on themselves to flesh out the athletics and history sections, this does not belong per WEIGHT, NOTNEWS and to a lesser extent, RECENT. In no case should this remain a stand-alone section. A distinction needs to be made between what is significant to the school and what is important about the school. That being said, I could live with a couple sentences in either a well written and detailed history section or athletics section along the lines of:

In 2009, a football player died in practice. The head football coach resigned and was subsequently charged and acquitted of (whatever the charge was).

Sourced to the most detailed source that does not contain the coach's name in the title. I'm reasonably sure the man carries a big enough burden around with him without adding to it by tying his name to this sad event in this very widely read website. John from Idegon (talk) 19:32, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

First, this is not a WP:NOTNEWS matter in the least. NOTNEWS is about not covering flashes in the pan, and this was a story that was dragged out for many months, carried by major media in the process. Second, WP:BLP is not about protecting someone's feelings, it's about making sure that whatever is covered about a living person is well cited by reliable sources and uses appropriate weight in our coverage -- in this case, if it isn't cited enough, it would be easy to add more cites. Third, just because a source is dead doesn't mean it didn't exist and that it wasn't added in good faith for purpose of verification.

As far as I can see, the only issue with what we have now is WP:WEIGHT. I don't see a problem with your revised text and I actually agree that we have an unfortunate situation with a very undeveloped article that would normally include a History section. On this factor alone, I could live with the content's removal until the article is appropriately developed. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 15:56, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]