Talk:Pleiades in folklore and literature

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mesopotamia[edit]

The first to identify this group of stars were the Babylonians! But they are not mentioned in this page. I don't remeber their names in Akkadian, but they are mentioned on tablets called MUL.apin that were edited on the begining of the first millenium BC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.120.96.3 (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Early Celts[edit]

Since there isn't evidence that the Celts celebrated the solstices and equinoxes, we shouldn't be referring to Samhain or Beltain as "cross quarters". Dubious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.115.32 (talk) 22:52, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The recently discovered Lismullin Hendge (Lismullin, Ireland) is aligned to the rising of the Pleiades (see: ‘Harvesting the Star: A pagan temple at Lismullin, Co. Meath’, authored by the excavator Aidan O’Connell)- marking a point between equinox and solstice. Additionally, numerous monuments in Ireland are aligned to specific solstice or equinox events; whether rising or setting of the sun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardaraith (talk • contribs) 17:28, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We don't seem to have any sourcing whatsoever for 3.4 Celtic mythology. Since what little we know of the Bronze Age Celts is extremely sparse, I'm minded to remove this section unless it can be reliably sourced. Vashti (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Indigenous peoples of the Americas[edit]

How would the Nez Perce have known there were 7 stars, if only 6 were visible to the naked eye? Did they have telescopes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.74.53.214 (talk) 22:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Other languages[edit]

A lot of the short sections here basically just say "The Pleiades is called so-and-so in this language". This article is titled "Pleiades in folklore and literature", not "How to say Pleiades in various languages". Either add more information on the Pleiades' relevance to a particular culture or remove the section. We don't need a new section for every language/country/culture in the world. Morinae (talk) 09:43, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

and Literature[edit]

There is nothing currently on this page regarding the Pleiades in Literature. Is the Page title correct?

Here I would expect to see (for example) expect to see a link to this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_%28novel%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.211.95 (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ojibwe entry[edit]

Apparently, there's a rogue entry under "Ojibwe" - "The Ojibwe people of North America believe they came from Bagone-giizhig "Hole in the Sky".[59] They traveled in a space ship that lead the way to Earth on a Spiders web beam of light through the portal known as the 7 sisters star system.", added on 8th October 2021 with a cheeky (and ungrammatical) remark about "Please Google if you need evidence to fact". It looks like, the reference does back up the name, and adds some more information -

"Bugonagiizhig – Hole in the Sky & Madoo’asinik – Sweating Stones – Pleiades The hole in the sky refers to the Ojibwe shaking tent ceremony. The tent that the medicine person builds acts as a spiritual doorway that relates to the Pleiades open star cluster. In the sweat lodge purification ceremony basaltic rocks are heated in a central fire and then brought into the center of the lodge. The Pleiades is seen overhead in late Fall."

It looks like, this https://www.zhaawanart.com/post/stories-and-teachings-from-the-earth-part-3-turtle-and-bear-guardians-of-the-shaking-tent backs that up and adds some more detail (and also gives a version of the origin of the Pleiades that's very much like the one listed for the Cherokees), and https://indigenousreflections.com/products/bagone-giizhig-the-hole-in-the-sky is the only source I could find on a quick Web search for there being an Ojibwe creation myth involving the Pleiades, and I couldn't say whether it mentions spaceships but I suspect not! Wombat140 (talk) 21:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, no citations have been forthcoming, (I'm not surprised!), so I removed the rogue comment about spaceships and replaced it with a couple of bits of information about the Pleiades in Ojibwe culture that I found while looking for references for the other thing that are at least somewhat referenced - I don't know much about it except what I've copied from websites, so by all means correct it if it's wrong. Wombat140 (talk) 00:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]