Talk:Preighter

A fact from Preighter appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 June 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that one airline has flown more than 5,600 preighter flights, carrying cargo in place of passengers?

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Image Needed[edit]

Loads of images exist showing this practice but I'm unable to find any with appropriate licensing and I'm unfamiliar with fair use. If you have experience in locating appropriate images, your help in bringing a usable image to this article would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! N8 01:32, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I came across a few candidates in the Aircraft cargo compartments category. Interestingly, two of these images demonstrate that pax cabins have been used for cargo for some time without permanent conversion measures to suit cargo carrying. I expect these examples are better described as combi aircraft than preighters though. So far, I've been unable to find an image that reflects the practice that became common in 2020 of loading cargo directly on seats in commercial jets with dedicated passenger cabins. --N8_wilson

2010 Air Greenland de Havilland Canada Dash-7

Air Greenland de Havilland Canada Dash-7. Possibly a dual-purpose/"combi" cabin with reserved floor space for cargo. 2010

Cargo loaded aboard a Twin Otter with seats appearing to be folded up to sides.

Unknown passenger aircraft with seats removed still showing overhead bins, call buttons, etc. Possibly mid- or post-conversion to full time cargo ops?

Pinging a few recent editors since page watchers is low (zero?) Robertogamerxxx, The Eloquent Peasant, BilCat Thanks for any comments or review. --N8_wilson 16:30, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know Nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that one airline has flown more than 5,600 preighter flights carrying cargo in place of passengers?
Source: "... Ethiopian has operated 5,645 Cargo flights on the cabin of passenger aircraft ..." (https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2021/04/Ethiopian-Airlines-builds-success-on-A350-Preighter.html)
- ALT1:... that airlines can remove seats to create temporary preighters that carry up to 35% more cargo?
  Source: "Austrian has removed 270 of the 306 seats from two B777-200s to give a 35 per cent increase in cargo capacity" (https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2020/05/05/lufthansa-coins-preighter-term-for-passenger-cargo-flights/)
- ALT2:... that some airlines carry cargo directly on passenger seats in preighter aircraft?
  Source: "As a result, many airline operators [...] proceeded to modify their planes to transport cargo on passenger seats " (https://worldofaviation.com/2020/05/preighters-is-the-new-name-for-2020s-aviation-phenomenon/)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shrine of St. Paulina
Comment: The first two proposed hooks can be found listed in the Airlines section of the article. The last hook is opening line of the Operations section.

Created by N8wilson (talk). Self-nominated at 13:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi N8wilson, thanks for creating an interesting article, review follows; article created 28 May and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what appear to be reliable sources in the field; I didn't notice any overly close paraphrasing from the sources used; ALT0 and ALT2 are fine, mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited; I couldn't see ALT1 in the article, I've struck it for now but if you want to use it, please add it to the article and ping me to review; a QPQ has been carried out - Dumelow (talk) 06:49, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Before Covid[edit]

The name may be a recent creation but cargo in passenger cabins is nothing new. Especially mailbags were often flown overnight in passenger seats at least untill the 1990s. 92.200.133.103 (talk) 12:14, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a source, feel free to add that information. - ZLEA _T\^C 12:55, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]