Talk:Quin Snyder

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So why exactly can the photo not be used?

Started discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Quin_Snyder_photo. Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Compromise

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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My proposal for a compromise: leave the infobox blank, but put the 2012 photo of Snyder within the coaching career section. Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I emailed his people. If he or they don't like the image then they can either provide one or go away.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:48, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

As the editor who claimed to represent Snyder has not followed through on their pledge from almost a month ago to produce a higher quality image, I think it is reasonable to restore the prior image. The BLPN discussion is archived here. There was no consensus that it was an embarrassing photo, merely that it might be too low of a resolution for anything other than the thumbnail (e.g. clicking and expanding it). I think the public is better served with this image than without it.—Bagumba (talk) 08:11, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree. I have discussed this with many subjects of BLP articles. They can either provide a simple cell phone image or they have to tolerate the best images we have. Most of them don't realize how easy it is to just email a pic to me for uploading. We can put them in the article within minutes of them taking the picture and then wait for OTRS to process the license. If Mr. Snyder does read this then feel free to read http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS and email the image to the address on that page with the license filled out by the rights holder, which is usually the photographer.--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:33, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

To be fair, the rep for Snyder does not edit on a regular basis, as is clear from his contributions history. Part of me still wants to throw him a bone, considering the really nasty vandalism he's had to deal with himself. The Wikipedia community wasn't doing a good job taking care of this article. Zagalejo^^^ 19:09, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I do want to assume good faith, which is why I had no problem doing without a photo for a month. However, the good faith now needs to be reciprocated by supplying a reasonable timeline for providing a better photo. With smart phones and digital cameras, a representative of Snyder should be able to deliver this.—Bagumba (talk) 19:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Daryl Katz has a similar image. He can't be reached easily by phone or email. He lives near me so I may just go kick on his door with my camera and see if he wants to have me take a snap. If I don't get shot be security then they may have a cell phone and just take one themselves. Todd Lieberman's people are emailing me an image after I contacted them. This was after he made a huge mess trying to create his own article. That one is in need of expansion if you would like to help.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

The editor is back

Well, the Strs2010 editor has returned with his non stop removals of the photo. Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

It just happened again, and a day after Lluchetti (talk · contribs) held himself out as an employee of the Utah Jazz and uploaded a non-free, Getty-licensed image of Snyder. —C.Fred (talk) 21:59, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Dear editors:

I apologize for my naiveté and greatly appreciate your patience with me. I am hoping that someone more knowledgable can assist me and keep the conversation friendly and professional. I do not know how to use Wikipedia and am trying my best to train myself. Again, please be kind.

I do work for the Utah Jazz. I am an employee and I do have free access to photos of the Utah Jazz team and staff for use in noncommercial (and also commercial) purposes. I would like to upload a more current photo of Quin Snyder to his Wikipedia page. The photo on their now is outdated and fuzzy.

I do not want to fight with anyone or be disrespectful. I would honestly like a friendly person to help me better understand how I can accomplish getting a new image of Coach Snyder on his Wiki page. I can get the permission needed for the photo. I am confused by the photo rules as they are supposed to be "free," but all photos have to be taken by someone so what constitutes "free."

I thank you for any help you can give me.

Thank you,

lluchetti — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lluchetti (talk • contribs) 22:08, 25 November 2014‎ (UTC)

@Lluchetti: "Free" for Wikipedia purposes means placed into the public domain or under Creative Commons (or GFDL) licensure that allows for reuse of the image, including modification and commercial reuse. Attribution can be required as one of the terms of the license.

Images that are under limited use, including "no commercial reuse", are defined as non-free content for Wikipedia purposes and subject to criteria on when and how they can be used. One almost universal rule is that a non-free image of a living person cannot be used in an infobox.

That's why we can't use File:Utah Jazz Head Coach Quin Snyder.jpg in the article: there's no evidence that the Jazz have placed it under a suitable license. —C.Fred (talk) 22:19, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Latest photo

Lluchetti uploaded a new photo at File:Quin Snyder Utah.jpg. It was deleted from the article on March 13, 2015, apparently because of copyright concerns due to a pending deletion discussion, but the photo was ultimately kept. Honestly, the resolution on the new one has its own issues as well. If someone wants to use it because it's more recent, the photo is there.—Bagumba (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for trying to help me, but I still don't completely understand. The more recent photo of Quin that I uploaded was taken in what appears to be the same circumstances as the photo of him at a Lakers game. It was taken personally, as a fan, at a game, on a phone. It is not a copyrighted photo and it is not owned by the Jazz. Also, there are no Jazz logos etc. in the photo. Please help me better understand why it is not legal, but the one of him on the sidelines at a Lakes game is? I read the information you posted, but it I still don't fully understand the issue. Thank you again. Lluchetti (talk) 15:31, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Lluchetti: Sorry if I wasn't clear, but the deletion discussion that I referred to ended with a decision to keep your photo.—Bagumba (talk) 07:39, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay and thank you. Can I put it back up then? The old one is still posted. I appreciate your help! Lluchetti (talk) 20:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

As Arbor to SJ was the last one to remove it, perhaps they have an opinion. As I said before, I personally don't see how one is any better than the other, so I'm indifferent.—Bagumba (talk) 20:36, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Lluchetti (talk) 22:41, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Discuss

@Rikster2:I'd like to discuss this edit here, per BRD. Please put your source here and then we'll discuss. Thanks, Lixxx235^{Got a complaint?} 14:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I just put it on the article. Rikster2 (talk) 15:01, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Thanks, Lixxx235^{Got a complaint?} 15:02, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Vague, maybe POV writing in Mizzou section

The last few lines of the Missouri section feels weirdly vague and defensive, with references to "many" allegations and not specifying what the violations were, and the odd "it was learned" phrase at the end. Any objection to an overhaul there (I'll try to do a rewrite this weekend)? Mosmof (talk) 15:05, 10 January 2015 (UTC)