Talk:Second Epistle of John

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Yes, we can include the whole letter, but wouldn't it make more sense to summarize it instead? We can easily link to the article. Also, it doesn't say what translation is being used. john k 08:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we do have a link at the bottom of the epistle that informs us the version is The New Revised Standard Version...what concerns me more is the statement, "Of the thirteen verses composing this epistle seven are in the First Epistle." What does that mean?

I question this statement "It is therefore the scholarly consensus that a single author composed both of these letters, although it has been doubted that the same person also wrote the Gospel of John, the First Epistle, or the Book of Revelation." Although there are probably those who doubt this, it is stated on all the other John wiki pages (not counting the one on Revelation) that it is a commonly held view by scholars that the Gospel and epistles have one author (or group of authors). Grailknighthero (talk) 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shortest?[edit]

Certainly 2 John contains the fewest verses, but 3 John is the shortest book in the Bible by word count, even though it has 14 verses. (Using the KJV) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.159.208 (talk) 10:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Although II John has more words than III John, it has fewer characters, making it smaller in that regard as well. However, in Greek, III John has fewer characters and words, which is why III John follows II John. The 21 epistles of the NT were arranged first according to author and audience, then according to length. Thus, originally, II John was longer than III John. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daktulios (talkcontribs) 13:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

gnostic teachings[edit]

I took out this section:

" however, during the first century, when Christianity began to spread, which is also when the letter was allegedly written, advocates of gnostic teachings would not have had enough clout, and could not have merited such a response."

since it seems to be OR. 03:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

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Claptrap[edit]

That John the Apostle wrote the Second Epistle of John is fundamentalist claptrap. tgeorgescu (talk) 09:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The identification of John the Apostle with John the Evangelist is quite old in Christian folklore. It predates Christian fundamentalism (late 19th century). Dimadick (talk) 11:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]