Talk:Second Epistle to the Thessalonians

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It seems to me that the passage

"Apparently the first letter was misunderstood, especially regarding the second advent of Christ. The Thessalonians had embraced the idea that Paul had taught that "the day of Christ was at hand", that Christ's coming was about to occur. This error is corrected (2:1-12), and the apostle announces what first must take place before the end times."

has more to do with 1 Thessalonians and should be moved there. freestylefrappe 03:25, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

This passage should be in the 1 Thes. entry as well as here as it is a statement which links the two and a valid point from the traditional view. omricon 23:15, 14 Aug 2007

Content?[edit]

Could someone please summarise what is actually in this epistle? BrainyBabe (talk) 19:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • A fellow did; and I did something to clean it: removing first person voice and things that seem out of place. But the quotes need to be converted into an article. Somehow the third chapter and and bibliography have disappeared, I'll see if I can fix that. Jonathan48 (talk) 07:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I must make a major complaint against this article. Using research from 1908 is unacceptable, especially for an opinion that only a small minority of scholars hold today. Very few scholars today still argue that Paul wrote 2 Thessalonians and the claim that the church would not have accepted a phony begs countless questions and not only contradicts our understanding of the early church, but also our understanding of the concept of intellectual property in the first the second century. Of course, if I have the spare time, I'll find better sources and fix it myself, but that might not be for weeks. No user account 9:08 24 October, 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.143.136 (talk)

Composite epistle[edit]

"Admitting that there are stylistic problems between Second Thessalonians and First Thessalonians, he argues that part of the problem is due to the composite nature of First Thessalonians (Murphy-O'Connor is only one of many scholars who argue that the current text of Second Thessalonians is the product of merging two or more authentic letters of Paul.)" Which letter is the composite? The two sentences quoted seem to be in contradiction. The first sentence stating that it is 1Th that is a composite, the second that it is 2Th. Could someone check the sources and correct this? --Khajidha (talk) 18:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2 Thessalonians 2:11[edit]

What about the controversy of 2 Thessalonians 2:11, which makes God out to be a liar and deceiver, who makes people believe a working of error (which could in turn be the entire Bible itself)? Torquemama007 (talk) 18:57, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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