Talk:Shakira/Archive 3

'known for her intelligence'

Well that sentence in the introduction strikes me as quite odd, as most people would not associate 'intelligence' when someone mentions 'Shakira'. And IQ 140 is not so high that it would be an interesting fact on its own. Remove?

That's about 98th percentile.

I would think so. Nevertheless, the fact that she speaks five languages is not such a big deal, at least outside the US. --201.73.169.229 13:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

An IQ of 140 is above average, but not spectacular. Additionally, the citation for this "fact" is an entertainment magazine that anecdotally mentions how she "reportedly has an IQ of 140." Due to the irrelevance of the information and the lack of credible sources, I believe this reference should be removed. Brash 18:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Posting the referenced website for your edification: http://www.usaweekend.com/05_issues/051211/051211cover_shakira.html

Brash 18:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

how is that meant to edify me? 140 is considered 'genius level' and qualifies her for membeship in mensa. that is notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 16:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Shakira's verbal IQ may be much higher than 140. IQ is a combined math/verbal measure-- but many people with a strong verbal IQ will score far lower in math. (People high in both verbal and math IQ are much more rare).

Hence Shakira's math/verbal average of 140 may be hiding a far higher verbal IQ-- if her math abilities are left out of the average.

The fact that she started writing poetry at age 4 also suggests that her verbal IQ (with the math score left out) is considerably higher than 140.

Sean7phil (talk) 17:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you saying that singers cannot do good in math? Because, as explained, speaking 5 languages is not something uncommon. And how do you base this belief that mathematical and verbal abilities rarely walk together? From my experience innately smart people usually excel in several areas(if not most or all).. Those who excel in just one, do so because that was the one thing where they did relatively slightly better from beginning, and so they invested their time and energy on that area, eventually standing out. I also think that 140 is not espectacular, and Mensa too is not spectacular(they should only accept people above 160 :p). And I disapprove this culture of evaluating people based solely on their IQ anyways, even though I benefit from it :D Infinito (talk) 16:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Although I'm a strong Shakira fan myself, I think that the shakira fans are painting too nice a portrait for shakjira, to the extent that false facts are being made up to make her seem perfect. Catsmartie (talk) 05:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

But she is perfect. :) Phil_Nolte (talk) 11:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Both only child AND older brother?

Currently, the article says both "She is the only child of Nidya del Carmen Ripoll Torrado, a Colombian of Spanish and Italian ancestry, and William Mebarak Chadid, of Lebanese descent." and "At the age of eight, after an older brother was killed in a motorcycle accident (she was only two when this happened), Shakira wrote her first song entitled "Tus gafas oscuras" ("Your dark glasses")." Was she an only child, or did she have an older brother? (It's possible that she had an older half-brother, and is the only child of Nidya and William. But that should be given with a reference.) Chip Unicorn (talk) 00:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps since her older brother died she became an only child (at age two).

24.8.106.182 (talk) 02:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

shes the only child of her mother, but her father was married to another woman before and had more children. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.88.236.1 (talk) 01:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

can someone change the picture of her from the Walmart Meeting

find a more flattering picture --unsigned

Or at least explain it... it almost implies she is a major shareholder, which I assume is not true.

--AlanH (talk) 01:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Removed "She has a total of four,.. 51"

I removed "She has a total of four, the lowest one being number 51." from the last paragraph in the opening section (United world charts) because it makes zero sense. It probably made sense when looking at the charts, but it has no place being in the intro. --AlanH (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

charity auctioning

FWIW: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7242493.stm — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 03:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Descent

She is the youngest of eight siblings of Niday del Carmen Ripoll Torrado, a Colombian of Spanish and Italian ancestry, and William Mebarak Chadid, of Lebanese and Macedonian descent. If true, the source should be mentioned. I've been reading a few websites and comments, many of them talking about her Catalan mother and her Lebanese father. The surname Ripoll is certainly Catalan, so is her mother a Catalan migrant to Colombia or a Colombian with a Catalan father? Same thing for her father, is he a Colombian of Lebanese descent or a Lebanese migrant to Colombia? The whole sentence looks vague and unreliable. --Purplefire (talk) 11:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

True, Ripoll is 100% catalan. Trrado is Spanish, so there are few chances her mother is from Italy... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.50.20.193 (talk) 10:34, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Plaigurism?

I've heard that one of Shakira's songs sounds exactly like a Testament song, and was written significantly after the Testament song was written. I don't know which Testament song, or which of Shakira's songs, so if someone has more info on this that would be great. Sorry I don't know more about it, but I'm pretty sure there's something to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.71.212 (talk) 05:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

"How do you do" has the Lord's prayer in it (I think..) at the beginning but that's hardly plagiarism. 79.72.192.253 (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Vocal Ability

Whoever keeps deleting that, please stop. Shakira does have tremendous vocal ability! why are u guys deleting it?? If Christina AGuielra, Mariah carey etc has one, Shakira deserves one as well, especially after her MTV UNplugged performance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catsmartie (talk • contribs) 10:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Shakira does have a great vocal ability. In fact, she's a speech level singer just like Mariah Carey. She sings while she dances too so it's hard for people to tell since she's out of breath most of the time. --69.224.122.230 (talk) 04:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Shakira does have tremendous vocal range and stamina as mentioned, while dancing. With many stars lip syncing Shakira needs a nod on her vocal ability. (70.80.173.220 (talk) 23:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC))

I'm so happy, its been a year or more since ive added the section "style: music and voice; influences; songwriting and producing" and it hasnt been deleted like the vocal ability section was constantly deleted! Catsmartie (talk) 05:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

anti-israel

dont delete the article people should know what she said(talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.80.93 ([[User talk:# Star-of-David92 |talk]])

Please see the WP:BLP requirements against defamation. The extremely questionable addition will rightly be deleted until it meets the sourcing requirements. Rumors have no place in Wikipedia.--Burzum (talk) 02:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

She definitely did not make those statements. Someone obviously has an ax to grind see http://www.adl.org/rumors/shakira.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.20.125 (talk) 05:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Clearly, a hoax. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 05:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

the N1 singles are false

Joeys112 (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC) the section "Number-one singles" is false, for example las de la intuicion was never a number one hit in Canada, Italy, France It didnt even chart in those country being a spanish song, and the rest of its peaks are absolutely wrong. Im not talking just about this song , many have false peak positions and what shows that this have been an act of "vandalism"; if you see the total number of n1 hits in each country and check the bottom of the column youll see that the numbers are wrong , for example europe, germany, portugal, japan ..

The "Sexuality" section

Please, could someone edit or delete that section? The majority of it seems to be based on opinion, which infringes upon the standards of Wikipedia. Also, it is sloppily written. On a personal note, I find the implication that the music video of "Whenever, Wherever" was Shakira's first to endear viewers very insulting. She was indisputably rolling out successful music videos LONG before then.

Rey sin corona (talk) 03:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It's been removed: see this edit. Thanks. Acalamari 15:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Songwriting and samples

I think the reason your contributions were repeatedly deleted was that they were totally unreferenced, and thus effectively your own point of view. Saying that they were "empirical observation" just underlines this, because you're really just saying "I listened to them and I think they sound the same". Putting this kind of material into Wikipedia will fall foul either of WP:NPOV or WP:NOR and someone will almost certainly revert it. And because it touches on the work of a living person, the article is a sensitive subject (see WP:BLP), so any suggestion of negative behaviour - thinly veiled accusations of plagiarism, for example - will almost certainly be reverted if it's not supported by credible references.

External link to ZotFish?

Hi, I was wondering if it would be appropriate for someone to add an external link to the ZotFish page for Shakira?. I believe it's of genuine interest to readers, but I want to make sure I follow Wikipedia policy and not post it myself -- more info on the site can be found at Mashable.

Zotman (talk) 03:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The site violates WP:ELNO and WP:NOT#REPOSITORY, and it does not enhance the article. It should not be added. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Omissions

Hi! I find that the career part 2001-2005 doesn't mention anything about one of her biggest English singles "Whenever, wherever" that boosted her international career and her consecutive single "Underneath Your Clothes". Budiaman (talk) 18:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

She is not Mezzo-soprano

She cannot go up high like Mariah Carey or like Jordin Sparks so please quit inserting Mezzo soprano for the love of God. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waraujo20 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

She isn't a contralto either, so what is she? Tribal44 (talk) 21:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)Tribal44

She is between a contralto and a mezzo soprano. She has songs in where she goes since a fa3 til a re5, but in others, like "inevitable" or "si tú no vuelves" (w/miguel bosé) she reaches without problems mezzo soprano register notes. She has a very original and unusual voice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.226.128.202 (talk) 08:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Picture

Can someone please find a more nice-looking picutre? THis one from the Ecuador tourlooks pretty bad. What about ROck In Rio Madrid? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catsmartie (talk • contribs) 07:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Seriouso there needs to be a different picture

That is an awful picture (the one at the start), it defo needs a different picture. See that you change it with great haste. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.234.30 (talk) 05:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Shakira's dancing section should add Mime.

Dancing:

Shakira is incorporating'Mime'or Robotic Moves like Michael Jackson in her dance routines. This should be added to Dancing section. (Wolverine-gulo-gulo (talk) 22:41, 29 March 2009 (UTC))

New album

the only thing about the new album that is confirmed is that she will sing a song with Pharell and Calle 13. All other things is rumors started by diffeent people!! "Rumors that Colombian pop star Shakira recorded a song with Madonna are untrue, several anonymous sources close to the singer told Colombian media." Several international media had reported over the past few months that Barranquilla's most famous artist would include a duet with the Queen of Pop on her new album, but "the Madonna issue doesn't exist," a source close to the Colombian singer said. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shakiraisbest (talk • contribs) 13:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ridiculous Rumours About the New Album

Puh-lease, those sources about the so called Madonna duet are from the notoriously unreliable shakiramega.com, a well-known source that fabricates information. It is a site that creates random facts about Shakira, and for example, even spends the time writing up false interviews. Please, the Madonna duet is fake, as confirmed with two reliable sources which i have cited, and even the moderator, a close contact to shakira herself, on the official forums, labels the rumour as false. DO NOT remove my edit in the section on the page.

AS much as i personally like the idea of the duet, it is FALSE at the moment so quit putting up random rumours

Catsmartie (talk) 05:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Name pronunciation

How does she pronounce her name ?

Do all English speakers promounce her name differently to the Spanish-speakers ? In particular, I generally hear the a pronounced the same in both languages. -- Beardo (talk) 01:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes spanish speakers pronounce her name differently than English speakers...the "r" has an "ere" sound in Spanish... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.180.169 (talk) 08:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC) The article reverses the Arabic characters for Shakira. It could have been due to the typical glitches encountered when handling right-to-left languages in a left-to-right environment. In any case, the Shakira in Arabic is backwards in the article.

NOT fluent in Italian

Reading this article, I found the statement that Shakira is FLUENT in Italian, so went to Youtube (the reference) to check, and guys, she ain't fluent, she has some basic knowledge, but that's it. She hardly utters 10 words in Italian, the rest is Spanish. Do you know what FLUENT means?? I mean come on... I saw a couple of her other Italian interviews, in some of them she even speaks English.

Please change that, things like this are the reason many people don't trust Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.98.113 (talk) 15:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Shakira, an imitator of vocal style of Canadian singer Alanis Morrissette

I think that someone ought to ponder the fact that this Colombian singer imitates the vocal style and the peculiar timbre of Canadian-born singer Alanis Morrissette.

I would include this fact in the appropiate section of the wikipedian article "Shakira". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.162.112.31 (talk) 01:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

If this is well-documented and can be reliably sourced, then it's possible it could go in the article, but if this just an opinion, then no, it won't go in. You may wish to see WP:SOURCE and WP:OR. Thanks! Acalamari 02:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, it seems that the "fact" that Shakira steals from Alanis Morrissette is just an opinion, at:

http://www.lastfm.es/group/Shakira/shoutbox

OctavioPoe escribió: Enero 2009

You all should listen to Alanis Morissette. You'll figure out who's being stolen by Shakira. I mean... The only shakira's albu that worths is PIES DESCALZOS... The rest is just Alanis with a twist. I used to love Shakira, but she's more fake than her blond hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.162.112.31 (talk) 20:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

This is ridiculous, if I were to say John Doe looked like John Q. Public, would I put that on their articles? • S • C • A • R • C • E • 02:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Name in Arabic is STILL not spelled correctly

Please correct Shakira's name in Arabic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casa2000 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

The letters are in the wrong direction (written left-to-right, as opposed to right-to-left). Properly written, her name is شكيرة

The above comment includes the proper spelling. Why has it been more than two months without a correction?

I'm a registered user and I still can't fix this issue! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolenath (talk • contribs) 03:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

If you can show me a reliable source for the name, I'll include it. Since I can't read Arabic, I'll have to rely on an outside authority to show me you are correct.—Kww(talk) 03:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

American?

Why does the article now read "Colombian-American"? What's wrong with Colombian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.209.234 (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Shakira is a person of Catalan descent

Please that someone add Shakira in the "category: People of Catalan descent".

Her surname (Ripoll) is catalan because she has catalan ancestors. The article say it too. She say the same in this video too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshzEmNXBM8 . It's logical that Shakira has in this category.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.59.215.99 (talk) 22:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Please stop edit-warring

Albes29 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Eurotop1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Please stop edit-warring the article and reach consensus here. Both sources seem reliable but have different numbers. Please reach an agreement before violating WP:3RR. Thanks. --> RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 16:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for ask people to come here to have a discussion about this topic. I have been explaning for a long while my point and many people understood it.

I think they made a mistake in this page http://shakira.com/discography/index/album/albumId/7/tagName/Albums where they say Laundry Servide sales are 20 million. People say that BMI report is old but the second source they use to say that sales are 20 million is from the end of 2007, like the BMI report. It is impossible with todays market situation that this album has sold 7 millions in the last 2 years.

Almost every source says that Shakira's total sales are over 50 million. If you add 4 million Pies Descalsos, 10 million ¿ Donde Están los ladrones?, 20 million Laundry Service, 4 million Fijación Oral Vol. , 8 Million Oral Fixation Vol. 2, 5 million MTV Unplugged, 3,5 million Live & off the Record, 1 million The Remixes, 3.5 million Grandes Éxitos and 0.5 million Oral Fixation Volumes 1&2 that will make in total almost 60 million albums. That is why I think 20 million for Laundrey Service seems to be to hight. Sorry for my english.--Albes29 (talk) 17:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I personally believe we should take the 13M source. Why? Because the 20M source is a primary source, which is discouraged in WP. Also, artists may have a tendency to slightly boost their own sales numbers. That is my 2 cents. --> RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 18:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

That is why I think we should believe in BMI report. Lets wait until Eurotop1 (talk) gives his opinion.--Albes29 (talk) 19:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Albes29, it's your own opinion. I don't think that they made mistake on the page listed above. How they made such mistake? The BMI report is tied with old biography of Shakira. Why old? Because in the beginning of 2003, the sales of Laundry Service were 13 million already. Biography's article on Shakira's website until 2003 hasn't changed since that time aside last events. And then in 2005 the sales boosted, when double Oral Fixation project released, and all Shakira's albums were reissued to help to promote Oral Fixation project. Thus, the sales of all albums increased and there are no amazing, that sales of Laundry Service were increased to 20 million in 2007. Shakira's website cannot boost her sales, because these are two different sources. There are two reliable sources that confirm such case. The fact that sales are not just 50 million albums, as sources stated that sales are OVER 50 million. Hence there are no doubts in album's sales. Eurotop1 (talk) 07:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Definitely, the sales were boosted. It's true. Even in today's market situation. Remember, how Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway album hugely sold to 12 million, or Nelly Furtado's Loose to 7 million. I can agree that market situation has changed since the end of 2007, when digital downloads grasped the world music market. Borkan85 (talk) 07:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The BMI report is from 2007 and they said 13 million, and I don't think they are using old numbers. If you find an official source that say that sales are 20 million I will agree. Since her website says in her biography that it is 13 million I think we should keep that. At the beginning of 2003 her sales were 10 million not 13 million, then more than 3 million with the actual market situation sound better than 7 million more. This article is from billboard in 2003: http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4643930-1.html. Thanks--Albes29 (talk) 17:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok. First of, everybody just WP:CHILL for a minute. Second, primary sources are discouraged, so, lets please try not to quote Shakira's official website if it is not absolutely necessary. Third, Wikipedia is based on verifiability, which requires reliable sources, and I believe current consensus is that BMI is a much more reliable source. That consensus can change, of course. But if you happen to be right on your statement you should be able to find a reliable source that can uphold it. Until then, please leave the current statement. Remember, this is a work in progress and we have no deadline. Please verify your statement with a source that is more recent and then it will be welcomed. The PR Newswire source is from June/07, consider it may need updating. - RUL3R^*trolling_*vandalism 18:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Arabic Name

Arabic name is displayed incorrectly; please replace with شكيرة (meaning 'thankful') Moemin05 (talk) 09:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Hollywood Walk of Fame

Did she get added ? -- Beardo (talk) 01:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC) She WILL BE ADDED. See the source on the article. Borkan85 (talk) 15:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Not the first South American

As Carmen Miranda's article states, Shakira is not the first South American to receive a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame (she might be the first one with a star for recording achievements or the first Colombian):

"For her contribution to the motion picture industry, Carmen Miranda has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame at 6262 Hollywood Boulevard."

Also according to the Internet Movie Database, the Brazilian Bombshell does have a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but the number is not the same: 6230 [2]. Acoording to the list of stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on Wikipedia and other online sources, however, Miranda's star is actually 6262 -- Rodrigogomesonetwo, 19:24, July 24, 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 22:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC).

Carmen Miranda is not South American, because she born in Portugal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_Miranda#Nationality Borkan85 (talk) 08:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Carmen Miranda may have been born in Portugal, but she was a Brazlian citizen and never sang Portugese music, only Brazilian music and she chose to be buried in Brazil not Portugal. She was more Brazilian than Portuguese! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.180.169 (talk) 08:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

And so what? Carmen is Portiguese and born in Portugal and the truth is. Eurotop1 (talk) 13:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

• That's BS, you can't consider Carmen as a Portuguese because she used to say "I'm Brazilian" thus, She was a Brazilian citzen. Once she said to "Tupi Radio": "...Of course, I'm not Portuguese, I'm Brazilian!" Crespus2006 (talk) 13:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Languages spoken

Shakira is a native Spanish speaker and also speaks fluent English and Portuguese. Additionally, she speaks a little Italian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7FQSijMgUE ChynaDoll91185 (talk) 16:29, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

The article says she speaks fluent Italian. I noticed that during an interview in Italy she was not fluent. Opinoso (talk) 00:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Shorter source addresses?

There are several addresses listed in the Notes which are extremely long, making the page about three times wider than a 1024x768 browser window. Can't they be shortened or perhaps different sources found? It just looks messy and unprofessional. 72.174.106.127 (talk) 06:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Any reliable source saying that her two first albums are only promotional and unofficials? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.220.77 (talk) 03:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture of the Statue of Shakira

This picture should be removed. First of all, it's hardly visible, because it was taken with a basic camera and at night. Second of all, there are two people posing by the statue. It should be changed with a better picture and without anybody posing. Norum 18:20, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Too dark? I can see it just fine. Do you have another free image of the statue we can use instead? ς ح д r خ є 18:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It is too dark. True, one can see the shape, but it's just a bad picture because it was taken at night. If I come across something that can be licenced, Ill add it. Or if anyone else comes across one. Norum 18:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there is one on Wikicommmons, taken during the day instead. Norum 18:59, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done ς ح д r خ є 19:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I was going to do it, but then I simply forgot about it...lol.. Norum 22:24, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Okay. Qualcuno75, what are you trying to do? Do you feel something is misspelled? Google translate can not be used as a reference for anything, as it is not reliable. We need a reference that verifies the pronunciation of name of the Colombian entertainer Shakira, not the word "Shakira" ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 20:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Basically, according to many sources, Shakira was named after the Arabic word for grateful/thankful. Therefore, if you translate "thankful" or "grateful" into Arabic you get شاكرة (shakira). The article has شكيرة (also pronounced shakira). The 2nd version doesn't appear to be a word, but the 1st one is and does indeed mean grateful/thankful, therefore the 1st appears to be the correct version and the 2nd appears to be either an unofficial transliteration from English to Arabic or perhaps a misspelling. It's not really important, but I'll leave this here if anyone wants to confirm or refute this. --Qualcuno75 (talk) 06:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

There's an interwiki to her page on the Arabic Wikipedia, which uses yet another spelling: ar:شاكيرا. I don't know if any of the editors here read Arabic (I don't); if not, I figure we should trust the editors of Arabic Wikipedia. FWIW, شاكيرا gets almost 3 million google hits, many of which appear to be to do with Shakira (inasmuch as they contain pictures of her or refer to the titles of her songs in English); شكيرة gets about 40,000, again apparently about Shakira; شاكرة gets 300,000 hits, which don't seem to refer to the musician Shakira. Maybe Arabic-language media (perhaps unaware of the origins of Shakira's name) have decided to directly transliterate the English or Spanish pronunciation of the name, rather than using the similar Arabic word? If that is the case, and the standard Arabic transliteration is not directly related to the Arabic root of her name, we probably shouldn't include it in the lede, any more than we would include any other transliteration. VoluntarySlave (talk) 10:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Shakira honoured by United Nations

Source is anyone finds it useful. --candle•wicke 12:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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hai i love you singing songs please contact me

         bye  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.121.136.44 (talk) 08:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC) 

Shakira is my New Favorite singer because of her new song with lil Wayne and how she changed from the last years. My name is Rares bogdan and i like shakira —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.11.9.200 (talk) 18:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

GO Shakira!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.241.212 (talk) 23:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

mahamad abdulahi wehelie gaalshire

he's born mogdisho somalia 1985 aprile 15 famer military ganeral —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.208.48.193 (talk) 08:34, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Shakira on wizards

Selena Gomez and Shakira sing gypsy together —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.94.13.123 (talk) 23:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

--Deleted pointless comment. -- Jun 27, 2010 2:38 pst

Where did she learn her English?

Please add any references...I must go to that school and become fluent like her. --Triplespy (talk) 06:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Career sales Shakira album sales according to her official website pies descalzos= 5 million donde estan las ladrones=10 million laundry service=20 million fijacion oral vol 1 = 4 million oral fixation vol 2= 8 million mtv unplugged=5 million the following aren't on her website but says on wiki grades exitos= 6 million the remixes=1 million oral fixation vol 1&2=1 million live and off the record=3.5 million she wolf=1.5 million add these together and you get 65 million and her single sales hips dont lie=10 million she wolf=5 million underneath your clothes=5 million wheneverwherever=9 million la tortura=5 million add these together and you get 35 million so altogether shakira has 100 million records sold!! so someone do something to change it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.6.225.215 (talk) 18:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

I'm requesting an edit to the last line of the page under the "Records, achievements and trivia" section. The last line presently reads as "And Her She Wolf totted the Top 10 Latino Downloads." and I presume should read as "And Her She Wolf topped the Top 10 Latino Downloads.", the difference being the typo of "topped."

Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpmccaffrey (talk • contribs) 03:22, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 16:44, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Shakira sings in Latin?

"Shakira later stated that the album will now be a bilingual project, which will contain Spanish, English, and Latin songs.[64]

Shakira is known for many things, singing in Latin is not one of them. I can't see any sign that bilingual refers to anything other than English and Spanish. Please fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.184.16.249 (talk) 14:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 16:43, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

2010 Album Page

We have a release date (September) even though it looks like that might change, since a single has STILL not been released. Still, it is confirmed and isn't that enough to make a page? (Cprice1000 02:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cprice1000 (talk • contribs)

Semi-Hispanophone countries, and many non-Spanish-speaking countries, especially the United States

What on earth is a Semi-Hispanophone country? The first interpretation that comes to mind would be countries whose main language is not Spanish, but in which Spanish is spoken by a large minority. The United States comes to mind, but the sentence above precludes this possibility. Or is it a country that speaks a "semi-Spanish" language? What would that language be? Better avoid the term and just say "Spanish-speaking" countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.250.19 (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I think the Bronx and Little Havana classifies as Semi-Hispanophone countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.194 (talk) 19:14, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Name

Her name is actually Arabic! Written شاكرة, Šākira in transcription, and [ʃæːkɪra] in IPA, meaning: thankful, greatful (woman). Maybe one could add that, because right now we only have the meaning, and that's somewhere in the middle of the article.

Btw. why at the beginning of the article it says "Spanish name"... Even within the article the name is acknowledged to be Arabic! I think I'm going to delete that... --Arny (talk) 14:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

she is from lebanon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.249.214.65 (talk) 19:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

The first name (v.g. "Shakira") is Arabic. The name form (i.e. "First name", "Paternal surname", "Maternal surname"), is Spanish. Reverting edit. Salut, --IANVS (talk | cont) 15:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I think we have a bit of a problem here. Her first name, "Shakira" definitely isn't a Spanish but an Arabic name, yet she has two family names the spanish way. Now, from my point it was incorrect to say she has a spanish name considering the origin of the first name. IANVS views the full name which was constructed the Spanish way as relevant. I'm not sure which is right now... Not much harm risked here though, so I guess this is okay... :) --Arny (talk) 15:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Some of my colleague says that Shakira was born in Lebanon. --Inbamkumar86 (talk) 07:46, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

No she didn't. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 03:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Accusations of plagiarism regarding the song Waka Waka

No mention of that !? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.3.171.207 (talk) 03:36, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

she didn't: http://www.cherianews.com/2010/07/shakira-waka-waka-plagiarism-issue.html --86.145.8.165 (talk) 16:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

update sales

She has even more sales now, those mentioned sales are old, obviously they've increased. Also, many of her songs had sold over 5 million but they aren't listed in the best selling singles article.

Do you have a reliable source? Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 07:20, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

No, but sales don't stay the same, there's always digital downloads and they keep increasing. There is no site holding sales figures of all songs in the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.8.165 (talk) 16:03, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

"Specifically Catalan"

Is there any particular reason why there is no mention of what "specific" region in Italy or Lebanon her "descent" is from while the article stresses that her "Spanish descent" is "specifically Catalan"? Is that really a relevant piece of information? Swfwtwlf0909 (talk) 23:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is, because Catalonia is an historical spanish community, with its own language, culture and nationalism -catalan independentism-. For all the catalan users of Wikipedia -like me-, it's better to put this difference in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freecatalonia46 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, there are historical Italian and Lebanese communities as well. To be honest, I don't quite see why it should make any difference to Catalan users of Wikipedia where Shakira is from. It's precisely that sort of nationalist agenda in an article that's meant to be purely informative I have some reservations about. Swfwtwlf0909 (talk) 02:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Fantasy springs resort?

The achievements section has something about a record box office day at a casino. This seems pretty irrelevant and only a ploy to get more user clicks on the casino's website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericleerice (talk • contribs) 23:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I've removed the paragraph. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 17:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

and is proficient in Italian.

It is claimed that Shakira is proficient in Italian, though even she herself states she "non parlo molto italiano", with a thick Spanish accent in the source :[5] This sentence should be cut out, as she is not proficient in Italian. In fact, her command is limited to the average scope of Spanish native; in the way a German speaks Dutch (Language of the Netherlands and most of Belgium) -Paladino —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.183.62.27 (talk) 09:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Done. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 04:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

4th richest woman

can somebody add that Shakira is the 4th richest woman in music somewhere in the opening? http://www.nydailynews.com/latino/2008/01/30/2008-01-30_shakira_is_4th_richest_woman_in_music_sa-2.html --86.145.13.87 (talk) 12:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Hells Angels

How about mentioning her new lover, a HA from Barcelona? http://static.blogo.it/topmusicablog/Topmusicablog_ShakiraLocaHellsAngelBarcelona.jpg84.112.177.152 (talk) 00:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody add this on the influences section?

In terms of Spanish language rock Shakira is indebited to the Argentine power trio Soda Stereo.

“ I have been a Cerati fan all my life when he was part of Soda Stereo and before knowing him I had already gone to three of his concerts. Both Gustavo [Cerati] and Santana has enriched me, they are my small wonders. ” — Shakira

• 190.45.168.115 (talk) 21:55, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I am curious to know if there are any explanation on the similarities of the Waka Waka that she published in 2010 and this song from Chicas del Can published in the early 1980 ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtDBiuO_5_4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.29.109.140 (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

As simple as youtube is not a source, and this is a biography, that goes on Waka Waka. Tbhotch^Talk and C. 21:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Shakira sales

Her offical site states laundry service ha ssold 20 million, and her career sales need updated , she is featured on the best selling artists and it states she as sold 70 million. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.58.80 (talk) 12:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

1 bil

1 billion youtube views http://entertainment.oneindia.in/music/international/2011/shakira-high-youtube-landmark-270111-aid0062.html --86.145.14.2 (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

criticism

what about the criticism done about her music, I quote "Red Card for bad taste.[...] This leads to sonic vomit such as Shakira's 'Waka Waka (This Time For Africa),' perhaps the stupidest official song for any major sporting event ever."[82] Amos Barshad from New York Magazine said "The song is a perfectly innocuous bit of inspiration pop — 'when you fall get up, oh oh/and if you fall get up, eh eh,' Shakira suggests at one point — with a few vague nods toward what would be identified by a majority of Western-pop-reared individuals as 'world music.' But are you prepared to hear it over and over and over again?"

http://www.atinachile.cl/content/view/1138074/Shakira-o-el-triunfo-del-mal-gusto.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.251.198.85 (talk) 15:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Genre

Rock? How can you say she is rock? --188.27.127.52 (talk) 21:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Photo change

Can i change shakira's photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GStreetwalker (talk • contribs) 14:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Section split

Hello, I want to request something. As a fan, I think the sections for She Wolf and Sale el Sol should be splitted, since in the Shakira's words, 2009 wasn't a really good year for her, and many other reasons. I think I won't be able to split it properly, that's the reason of this message. Thanks in advance. -- Dyego Halliwell (talk) 23:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the section split. I have separated She wolf era from Sale el Sol era and added a new photo to the Sale el Sol era--Andreasyeah (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Relationship section?

Starts off with Shakira is Roman Catholic.

I don't mind that its in the wiki but its completely in the wrong section. 68.41.154.157 (talk) 05:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done Moved. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 06:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Must be included in the article, this ref of global sales?

I think, this is an important part in terms of album sales worldwide, I found the reference in List of best-selling music artists, and I think it can be included in the article:

Shakira has sold more than 70 million albums worldwide.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.lefigaro.fr/musique/2010/11/29/03006-20101129ARTFIG00756-shakira.php|title=Shakira|publisher=[[Le Figaro|LeFigaro]]|date=2010-11-30|language=French}}

What do you think about it?... D6h! ^? 12:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

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Shakira's relationship status

Why is it included in the introduction? It's not needed there and makes it too big. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.11.237 (talk) 15:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Puffery

"The song went on to become the highest selling single of the 21st century..."

C'mon now: there's over 80 years left for another song to come out.

The phrase appears to come from the "Hips Don't Lie" page, which has a dead link for its source that seems to have pointed to a BBC4 presenter's comments. Not exactly canon.

There are several other places where absurd claims are made. This article needs a critical review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.165.172.37 (talk) 22:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Oral Fixation tour

>>The tour consisted of 125 shows between June 2006 and July 2007. The concert also visited all six continents.

what are the six continents Shakira visited? There are different definitions for continents, and in the 6-continent model, the following are listed:

 North America
 South America
 Antarctica
 Africa
 Eurasia
 Australia

or

 America
 Antarctica
 Africa
 Europe
 Asia
 Australia

The tour did not visit Australia/Oceania, and it certainly didn't visit Antarctica, so the use of the word "ALL" is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.1.28.199 (talk) 03:30, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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Suggestions

Hi everyone. I have noticed how this article has many images. I like a good image here and there, but we need to remove some of them. I have noticed that in Good Articles and Featured Articles that one image is used for each section. With this article, we should use good candid or free images of Shakira that represent her well at that time. I don't think album or single covers look too good or neutral in this article. It seems a bit like an ad.

Also, I feel like She Wolf and Sale el Sol could have their own sections instead of being merged together. I mean, for the Oral Fixation era it is more reasonable, but I feel like She Wolf and Sale el Sol need to be independent from one another since one era is different from the other compared to the Fixations era.

For the trivia section, I was thinking about moving those facts to their appropriate sections or articles.

Tell what you guys think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.109.147.18 (talk) 15:39, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

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WRONG ALBUM SALES

the other day i was reading the shakira's wikipedia info and i have to say this info is a little bit wrong. First Shakira has not sold 70 million albums?? she has sold around 35-38 million albums to date according to the United world chart.

her studio albums sales are according with certifications and united world chart:

Pies Descalzos 1.5 - 2.0 million (sold) Donde Estan Los Ladrones 3 million Laundry Service 12 - 13 million Fijacion Oral Vol.1 4 million Oral Fixation Vol.2 4.5 - 4.7 million She Wolf 1 - 1.5 million Sale el Sol 2 million

i hope you analize this facts. In order to improve this page.

thanks!

United World Charts is not a reliable source. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 17:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 February 2012

Columbian of Lebanese origin

Mayakhoury1 (talk) 08:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 11:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

This sentence does not make sense. Please fix it.

2009–11: She Wolf and Sale el Sol

... The touring group also doubles as a record label which promotes but does control the music their artists release. ...

"Which promotes but does control" ? This should probably either be "which promotes but does not control" or "which promotoes and also controls". As I have no knowledge of the subject at hand, I cannot fix the article. Please find out what is the nature of this company's relation to Shakira and her music and fix the article accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Romancer (talk • contribs) 20:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 15:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Cheers mate! Romancer (talk) 14:33, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 May 2012

The last paragraph of the lede describes one of her songs as "a worldwide smash hit". The word "smash" should be removed, as "smash hit" is unencyclopaedic sounding.

89.100.207.51 (talk) 04:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Request seems reasonable and unrelated to the reason for protection, done. Monty₈₄₅ 05:18, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Shakira's father William Mebarak Chadid is Lebanese-Maronite Catholic

Shakira's father William Mebarak Chadid is Lebanese-Maronite Catholic. Maronites are Lebanese Christians and have nothing in common with Macedonians. Can someone remove this provocative misleading information. (I am a new user and cannot make changes) Thanks in advance.

JhgasndsmofvedMaronite (talk) 03:27, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Removed. Materialscientist (talk) 03:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Shakira's father William Mebarak Chadid was born in the United States of Lebanese descent

Shakira’s father is originally from the United States, born in New York, but moved to Colombia at an early age where Shakira was born and raised.

Shakira: Star Singer/Estrella de La Cancin

Shakira: Woman Full of Grace

Shakira

Dogfacebob (talk) 05:13, 08 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for these specific sources that confirm Shakira's father William Mebarak Chadid Lebanese descent.

JhgasndsmofvedMaronite (talk) 01:10, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Liar! No way she's even remotely Arab. She's too white! Arabs are not white--they're brown! They don't have blond hair and blue eyes. Real Arabs have black hair, brown eyes, and brown skin--just enough to easily pass for Hispanic, in fact! Shakira =/= Arab. There's no possible way any Arab could ever have blond hair and blue eyes, let alone look white! They're brown! Lelouch Is A Spy (talk) 20:12, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

She doesn't have blue eyes, and she colored her hair (her natural hair is black) just search on Youtube some videos of her songs in the 90's as "pies descalzos" and you will she is not "white".

sure, all arabs are brown, as are all hispanics. yeah right, look im cuban, my girlfriend is cuban, and we both have blond hair( although brown eyes). Stereotypes are dumb, and i dont see what your comment apports to this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.215.13 (talk) 00:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Is she naturally blonde. I thought she might bleach/colour her hair. I've seen (older?) videos of her on the internet that shows here with dark hair. Don't have the url. Is their a ref for what her natural hair colour is? Dannman (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

You just keep your literacy & be calm.--KDaxs (talk) 17:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Shakira has sold between 50 to more 60 million albums

What should we say about the worldwide sales figures for Shakira? Various sources give various numbers.

• Colombia Reports (2012): 50 million albums.

• Forbes (2012: Age 35): 50 million albums.

• Rolling Stone (2009, October): 50 million records.

• Chicago Tribune (2009, November): 50 million albums.

• Billboard (2010, October): 50 million albums.

• About.com (2011: Age 34): 50 million albums.

• BBC News (2007): 50 million records and same in 2008 and... 2009; but, in 2010 acording to BBC were 50 million records (check the url: /2010/artists/shakira/....).

• Le Figaro (2010): 70 million albums.

• The Telegraph (UK): (2009, December): 50 million albums.

• Brand Republic (2010, October): 50 million albums.

• MTV Base (2012): 60 million albums.

• The Daily Star (Bangladesh) (2011): 60 million albums

• The Age (2011): 60 million albums

• Dawn (2011, November): 60 million albums.

• MBN News from Maeil Broadcasting Network (2012, September): 60 million albums.

• BMI (2007): 50 million albums.

• Reuters (2008): 50 million albums.

• Fox News (2011): 50 million albums.

Definitely, "Le Figaro" (2010) does not match the others and, is used in this article. Turning to article "Shakira", since at least this version (as 12 January), says: "[...] sold over 70 million albums worldwide.[11][12][13][14]" The reference [11] is El Informador from México, but the problem is that the other references are more credible: [13] from (The Age = 60 million and is in 2011) and finally, [14] from (The Indian Express = 50 million and is in 2011).

As seen in the historial, only El Informador "from" Mexico to refer to the alleged 70 million albums Shakira, and the others said the exact opposite ([13] and [14]). This, of course, remained so and most likely is as was used as a primary source for all sources that come; Recall that until credibility sources have been based on Wikipedia, without seeing if they are true or fallacies, The Irish Times (from 1859) for example. So I think we have to put: Shakira has sold between 50 to more 60 million albums and put the references the years around this period; and put: only with its singles, has sold nearly 50 million copies in accordance with PR Newswire and Gigwise; though I think is a sale too exaggerated, especially because Shakira has only about 40 million certified productions (albums, dvds, singles.... etc) and, I do not think Shakira outperforms to Madonna in singles; omit..., by common sense and to be impartial, but if someone considers it necessary, we would need a census. Regards, Chrishonduras (talk) 04:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request.

Please see WP:RELTIME and remove the use of the word "currently" from the Personal life section. If time is important than an encyclopedia should specify when, otherwise the word currently should not be used (WP:NOTNEWS). The section goes on to say she confirmed the relationship. The section should stop there. It is not important or notable that she did so on Twitter or Facebook, sources should only be mentioned in special cases, it is enough that these are mentioned as references so that the information can be verified but the source is not WP:NOTABLE and should not be mentioned. If the article wasn't locked I'd have done this already. -- 109.77.184.14 (talk) 01:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Relationship

Milan Piqué Mebarak, son of Shakira Mebarak and Gerard Piqué, was born January 22nd at 9:36pm, in Barcelona, Spain. see this Facebook status for more information : https://www.facebook.com/shakira/posts/10151439831994560 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcchouette (talk • contribs) 23:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

For user reference only, not for the article

"I present to you my sunshine." - Shakira.

02/02/1987	Aspect	02/02/1977	Orb	Value
Sun	Conjunction	Sun	0.13	156
Sun	Opposition	Saturn	0.2	-115
Sun	Square	Uranus	1.24	-136
Sun	Trine	Pluto	1.01	76
Venus	Square	Venus	2.57	-102
Mars	Square	Mercury	1.19	-156
Mars	Trine	Neptune	1.5	53
Mars	Opposition	Pluto	3.2	-37
Jupiter	Sextile	Mars	0.5	69
Jupiter	Sextile	Jupiter	1.55	42
Saturn	Conjunction	Neptune	3	70
Pluto	Conjunction	Uranus	1.46	73
		539	-546	-7

personal compatibility analysis

Inter-planetary aspects: (values above)	These concern the possible relationships between two charts: especially the emotional relationship , but also those on the social, intellectual and spiritual levels.
156 Conjunction Sun - Sun	Positive aspect: It's an excellent aspect for a union because the two people go remarkably well together. They are made to understand each other, to complement each other and to support each other.
-115 Opposition Sun - Saturn	Negative aspect: They are certainly not made to live together. Saturn is too harsh, rigid and likes tranquility too much for the Sun. Neither will feel happy in this relationship.
-136 Square Sun - Uranus	Negative aspect: Here is an aspect that speaks against any long-term understanding. At the beginning, they will appreciate each other a lot, and will have pleasure in being together but, quite quickly, this life will become unbearable with disputes, conflicts and crying replacing love.
76 Trine Sun - Pluto	Positive aspect: It's love-at-first-sight, the great passion: they will be drawn to each other like two magnets, they will always have to see and touch each other. Very good sexual understanding, typically very passionate. It must be said that this type of relationship won't last forever, it won't develop into a quiet and tender love and even less so into friendship. One will suffer when the passion of the other dies, it will be a very difficult time to live through.
-102 Square Venus - Venus	Negative aspect: A union unlikely to last.
-156 Square Mercury - Mars	Negative aspect: Lots of problems can be foreseen for this couple, lacking in understanding, with ideas that are too different - and this leads to disputes. They are not made for each other.
70 Conjunction Saturn - Neptune	Positive aspect: Favorable union. Neptune brings dreams to Saturn, who lacks them, and Saturn brings common sense to Neptune, who is totally without it.
69 Sextile Mars - Jupiter	Positive aspect: The couple will be in harmony, even if they are different they complement each other perfectly and understand each other very well. They go well together.
53 Trine Mars - Neptune	Positive aspect: A difficult union that can succeed, but could founder in lies. Be very careful.
-37 Opposition Mars - Pluto	Negative aspect: Sexual passion leading to destruction. It will be very difficult to pick oneself up after such a relationship. To be avoided at all costs, nothing agreeable can come of this union.

24.79.38.15 (talk) 07:42, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 May 2013

Could you allow the addition of Shakira's official Youtube channel page in the 'External Links' section?

http://www.youtube.com/user/shakira

• Shakira's channel on YouTube

Emulater (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done - BollyJeff | talk 18:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Shakira (2nd nomination)

Comments for this proposal are greatly appreciated! WikiRedactor (talk) 20:43, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 June 2013

Shakira
File:Shakira performing on 'The Voice' 2013.jpg Shakira performing on 'The Voice' 2013

Queenshaklover (talk) 22:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

 Not done Nominated copyrighted picture for deletion on commons. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2014

| caption = Shakira at the American Music Awards Show, 22 November 2009. Casers310 (talk) 14:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Technical 13 (talk) 20:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Infobox

Why User: JohnJames250 changed the infobox. This was stupid decision, so I musted change, because Infobox person have actors, politicians and so on and Shakira is singer-songwriter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filucz2004 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2014

Please delete the last two sentences on the first paragraph on "Tenth Studio Album", as the release of the singles 'Truth or Dare' and 'Beautiful Disaster' was proven a rumor after the announcement of the new single featuring Rihanna. Dman0618 (talk) 18:50, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: The article simply states the fact that the tweets exist, nothing else. As they still exist, the article is still accurate, so I see no change to be made. If you have additional information for the article, please provide one or more reliable sources to support your suggested edit. --ElHef (Meep?) 01:18, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

add the arabic name of shakira

dear all Shakira's name in Arabic is شاكيرا, which is based on the Spanish / English pronounciation of the name. The correct Arabic form is rather شاكِرة /šākirah/,

which means "thankful (girl)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.161.9.237 (talk) 06:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2014

The phonetic transcription of the name "Ripoll" is incorrect. As she specifically said in her concert in Barcelona (note 13), her second surname Ripoll is Catalan. The sound "ll" in Catalan is not /l/ l but /ʎ/. Therefore this "(pronounced: [ʃaˈkiɾa isaˈβel meβaˈɾak riˈpol])" should be changed for this "(pronounced: [ʃaˈkiɾa isaˈβel meβaˈɾak riˈpoʎ])." Doctorprofetes (talk) 08:12, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.

In the markup there are comments that indicate that the displayed pronunciations are Spanish. They do note the Catalan pronunciation /riˈpoʎ/. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 01:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2014

Please change this:

known professionally as Shakira (English /ʃəˈkɪərə/,[3] Spanish: [ʃaˈkiɾa]

To this:

known professionally as Shakira (English /ʃəˈkɪərə/,[3] Arabic: [ʃaˈkiɾa]

because Shakira is an Arabic name meaning "thankful" and "ʃaˈkiɾa" is actually the correct Arabic pronunciation. Shakira isn't a Spanish name. Shakira is half Arab as well which would explain why she has an Arabic name. Therefore the part about the "Spanish" pronunciation is incorrect 2.218.16.254 (talk) 18:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Not done: The likely fact that her name, which indeed is Arabic, is pronounced [ʃaˈkiɾa] in Arabic, does not exclude that it is identically pronounced in Spanish. Sam Sailor ^Sing 11:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Inflated sales

According to Rolling Stone (2014) Shakira has sold only 60 million records ww ([3]). She has only at this moment nearly 40 million certified units in the world.

It is necessary removed the inflated sales and hoaxes. There are many variations in sales of Shakira (by years, by the media), maybe is by the "Wiki magic". Clearly, the figure of 125 million records is unreal and is a hoax. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.120.18.165 (talk) 21:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2014

99.248.30.135 (talk) 20:11, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Not done: Empty request. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:33, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

IQ of 140

I would delete the section saying that Shakira has an IQ of 140. The source of this statement is an article by the Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/shakira-iq-140-genius_n_3390658.html) in which it says that Mensa International has published a list of celebrity members and their IQs. In an update at the end of the article, however, they posted a link to a press statement of Mensa International which refutes this story: https://www.mensa.org/news/mensa-international-refutes-recent-press-stories — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.246.75.244 (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2014

Edits need to be made to the tenses before some of the dates on the page, as does more information about the tenth studio album, SHAKIRA. The page is very out of date, and dates and tenses have not been edited since at least January. 75.91.249.134 (talk) 00:46, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 14:14, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Numbering of albums

Wikipedia articles are inconsistent as to whether to include Magia and Peligro or not. So some places call Sale el Sol her seventh albuum, and others call it her ninth. This really needs to be consistent. (Examples - Loca_(Shakira_song) says seventh but Addicted_to_You_(Shakira_song) says ninth.) -- Beardo (talk) 12:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2014

Steve.a.howard (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)grammar correction: and continued writing poetry since then should be and has continued...

 Done - Thanks for the suggestion - Arjayay (talk) 11:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Wrong pronunciation

In the pronunciation Ripoll is said to be pronounced as "Ripol". It is a palatalised L. 46.189.155.105 (talk) 01:02, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Right! It sounds as /ʎ/, this is a Catalan surname. --88.25.1.106 (talk) 12:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC) (Enric, from Catalan Viquipèdia).

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2015

my einglish teacher is in love with shakira and we would wanna try to pull like a funny little prank on him and the prank is that if you or who ever is in charge with the editing of this article can change or add his name on the section were it says partners just for 1 or 2 hours so in that time my teacher can read it and we will record his reaction this is our last year in this school and he is our favorite teacher and we would wanna do this to him by the way his name is John DeSalvo so if you really are able to do this please consider it and please tell me when you would do this thank you and i hope you take it into consideration (really really high consideration not like low consideration thank you ) --Bluechocolate1313 (talk) 15:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)a student form R M MARRS MIDDLE SCHOOL 8TH GRADE Bluechocolate1313 (talk) 15:06, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Not even for a couple hours. Sorry, that is still considered vandalism. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 15:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Date format

According to Date format by country this article should be written with DMY format instead of the current MDY. HĐ (talk) 09:44, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2015

Hello, I noticed a few citations for the article were missing. I came across a newspaper article that addresses one of them. The 3rd sentence under "Early Life" states "From her mother, Nidia Ripoll, she has Spanish (Catalan and Castilian)[11][12] and Italian[citation needed] ancestry."

Please change [citation needed] to the following citation (MLA Format) as it verifies the information: Powers, Ann. "Up Front: Concerts; POP MUSIC REVIEW; Shakira's Dance of Dynamism; the `polyglot' Artist Embraces Her Roots in an Invigorating Display of Pride and Talent." Los Angeles TimesAug 17 2006. ProQuest. Web. 14 June 2015 .

Alejandragnn (talk) 23:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Done Thanks for finding that. Didn't quite use your format, just used the Wikipedia citing tool. Cannolis (talk) 23:40, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2015

Rafaweessl (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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Macedonian ancestry

Several reputable sources as Fox News and The Guardian report the claim that once was part of the article, that Shakira's father is of half Lebanese and half Macedonian decedent. I would like to ask users who maintain her page what do think of these sources and if they agree find a way to include it again in the article. — Tom^(T2ME) 16:53, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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edit reqestt: she had another baby, a boy named sasha

fix this article's personal life section. she has had another baby. another son. another aquarian. her and gerald and now both sons milan and sasha are aquarians. their bdays are all within days one another as well. shakira born 2 feb 77 and gerard 2 feb 1987, milan 22 jan 13 and now sasha on 29 jan 15.

CHANGE THIS
In September 2012, Shakira confirmed that she and Piqué were expecting their first child together.[139][140] Shakira gave birth to the couple's first son, Milan Piqué Mebarak, on January 22, 2013 in Barcelona, Spain, where the family resides.[141]

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In September 2012, Shakira confirmed that she and Piqué were expecting their first child together.[139][140] Shakira gave birth to the couple's first son, Milan Piqué i Mebarak, on January 22, 2013 in Barcelona, Spain, where the family resides.[141] On 29 January Shakira birthed the couple's second son Sasha Piqué i Mebarak in Barcelona . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.51.177.14 (talk) 06:27, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 29 February 2016

Please remove Shakira from the Category: People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (WP:BLP) 212.95.7.116 (talk) 06:36, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

 Done although there is a reference for hyperactivity that does not justify ADHD - Arjayay (talk) 10:35, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

shakira's song for "dora the explorer"

recently shakira made a song for dora the explorer's 10th anniversary album. i request that the song "todos juntos" and this information goes under the collaborations and other work. thank you

References

100 mill facebook

Why is there no mention of het being the first to get to 100m fscebook likes. That is a big event to me

Chadid

Shouldn't Chadid be in her name?

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2016

Please remove Shakira from the Category: People with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (WP:BLP) I know this has been done before, but the edit from Arjayay has now been reverted by User Pol9. --212.95.7.111 (talk) 06:34, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Done The quote from the interview that I'm finding is "I was a good student overall. I was just a little hyperactive. I would always get myself expelled from class because I was talking always too much."([4]). This is insufficient to add mental health related category to a BLP. That category cannot be added without Shakira saying specifically she has ADHD. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 07:12, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Other possible page locations for the future

I noticed Shakira (singer) was created as a redirect here in 2003. Seeing as how she also writes songs, dances, choreographs, and produces records, I was thinking Shakira (music) or something like that.

In the long run of encyclopedias one must wonder if this deserves the space which could be used by Shakira (disambiguation). I realize even since the 1990 album Magia she's just gone by that name, but Shakira (comics) has been around since 1980. In the grand aspect of history, a portion of the massive DC Comics universe involved in multiple epic tales is going to have more longevity, because the comic character will keep getting used in comics after the musician has retired.

Dropping the middle name, Shakira Mebarak Ripoll (someone made this redirect in 2009) is also a possibility as a WP:NATDAB since it's unclear to me whether it is acceptable to drop the paternal or maternal surname. Ranze (talk) 01:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Section "Other Ventures"

"She made her first terminal tattoo, which she dedicated to Pique,"

1. Did she make it herself?
2. What's a "terminal tattoo"?
3. What's a "Pique"?

--BjKa (talk) 09:53, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2016

--Briana trujillo (talk) 21:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Briana trujillo (talk) 21:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC) nacio el 27 de 1887

nombre real patricia castañeda gomez

ocupacion ama de casa

Not done: Doesn't appear constructive, it's unclear how that is relevant to this article. nyuszika7h (talk) 21:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2016

Minatehranii (talk) 14:52, 4 November 2016 (UTC)her secon's son is javaad

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2017

I hate african food — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.5.113.2 (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Much-annual?

What is " its much-annual holiday "? It doesn't sound like (normal) English to me. Kdammers (talk) 07:21, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2017

You should probably change the picture of shakira to a more modern one. That one was from 2014 right, she looks a little different now. Just some suggestions. 60.241.118.220 (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done for now: Re-open the edit request when you have a "modern" picture of her. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 15:24, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Rock music Shakira

I think Rock music should be added to Shakira's genre list since she has covered Rock songs and her album laundry service has Rock music on it's genre list. Nasma12 (talk) 13:14, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Source

Removed source that may be of use in article: Lapadite (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

References

Laundry Service needs italics in the first paragraph

• and the "Ojos Así" - without "the"
• first live album, MTV Unplugged was recorded - comma needed

Done. Bennv3771 (talk) 19:14, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

• reached the top 40 of on the Hot 100 - "of" useless

Done. Bennv3771 (talk) 21:12, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

• features other 23 other female singers - the first "other" useless
• She Wolf, was released - useless comma
• in Spain, Germany and the United Kingdom - comma before "and" (probably several other such enumerations, but not so obvious)
• one of Shakira's least successful studio album - albums
• a traditional Cameroonian soldiers's Fang song - soldiers'
• in Europe, South America and Africa - serial comma
• peaked atop the charts of countries Belgium, Croatia, France, - sth is wrong
• The album had sold over 1 million copies worldwide in 6 weeks,[87] and over 4 million since its release - problem with tenses
• In 2010 Shakira collaborated - comma after 2010
• "Get It Started", which was - here and in other places, the comma should be inside the bracket
• as third single - 'the' needed
• features Brazilian musician - the clauses should be better connected, probably 'the' needed
• Before being released as single, was certified gold in Spain - sth wrong
• Also as partners of the tour are - strange syntax
• (what had previously collaborated with Shakira - that/which

Too many mistakes for me in such a short article. I'll finish my correction here. Shakira should hire a native speaker, a high school or university English teacher, who would correct the mistakes in a few hours.

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2018

I would like to add information about Shakira's father. Just really small information about his religious denomination. Nothing special. Yunus Ahmedia (talk) 23:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Edit warring

User Shakira111, saying she has 50M certified units doesn't mean she has sold 50M, it means it needs to be the closest to that number. 125M is blatantly inflated, no matter the press release is coming from. See Talk:List_of_best-selling_music_artists#Shakira_and_J_Lopez. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 22:49, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2018

I want to add that she has an IQ of 140. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/shakira-iq-140-genius_n_3390658.html Jeopardy367glk (talk) 02:19, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Not reliable as a source of her "IQ". Read the update at the end of the article: "On June 6, Mensa International released a statement via their website denying a release of any list that reveals the name and IQs of its members. The organization, however, does not “confirm or deny whether someone is a member...“"--William Thweatt ^TalkContribs 05:32, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Setting answered as  Not done, per the above. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:50, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

How old is shakira?

How Old Is Shakira? Is randomly searched question on google on monthly basis by shakira's fan and followers. so here are all information's available about your favorite celebrity.  hope you will be enjoy. Shakira is a celebrated pop artist from Columbia, known for her astonishing voice, remarkable feeling of cadence, moving ability, and beauty. She was conceived in 1977 in Barranquilla and her ability ended up evident from an early age. Her presentation collection was discharged when she was just 13. She turned out to be common well known just with her fifth studio collection, which was the first in English. Shakira is an individual from Music Stars. if you want to know more about shakira please read full article here: [5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thakorviju (talk • contribs) 14:39, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2019

Shakira has sold over 140 million records: https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/unfiltered/shakira-to-play-her-first-israel-gig-in-tel-aviv/article_9234f8c2-53a4-11e8-800d-dfde6e66b3bc.html Amildener4 (talk) 23:41, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 09:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2019

The Bamboo version of "Hips Don't Lie" was not the official theme of the FIFA World Cup 2006; the official theme of the FIFA World Cup 2006 was The Time Of Our Lives Alex4wood (talk) 20:17, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

That has been changed to the closing ceremony song as I discovered on the song page. Iggy (Swan) 20:56, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Change misspell country name

Sorry not knowledgeable enough to use the template.

Under the section Career, Second title, First Paragraph It is Colombia not columbia.

Thanks LaGusi506 (talk) 06:17, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@LaGusi506: Hi. The spelling in question seems to be correct. The ″Columbia″ refers to Columbia Records and not the country Colombia. Bennv3771 (talk) 10:52, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Shakira for deletion

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"Freshlyground" not "Freshly Grounds"

Please change the band name "Freshly Grounds" to the correct "Freshlyground" as the band Shakira collaborated with on "Waka Waka" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.213.31.123 (talk) 10:12, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Muhandes (talk) 17:23, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2020

It says certified "diamante" rather than diamond. 2600:6C50:627F:EFA8:64D4:90D2:B7AC:EF1E (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Can you point out where you see that, so I can correct it?--Harout72 (talk) 04:09, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

genres in infobox

why isn't rock/pop rock in genres? is sourced on the Artistry section and on the albums' articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.232.241.152 (talk) 20:36, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Filmography edit

Shakira does a cameo in Taylor swift's documental Miss americana(2019) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.244.136.44 (talk) 17:02, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2020

In the lead, change "For her eponymousalbum, see Shakira (album)." to "For her eponymous album, see Shakira (album)." Best regards. 201.239.205.195 (talk) 04:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Jack Frost (talk) 10:51, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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Instruments:

In addition to the aforementioned instruments, Shakira also plays the sampler. She played it throughout the El Dorado World Tour for "Chantaje". I believed it was excluded because that person thought it's a type of keyboard. Sampler IS NOT a keyboard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petertshomela (talk • contribs) 15:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2020

If you click on the main image on the right, just above the information ("born, occupation, years active, etc.) someone has advertised a website on the image's caption. Copy paste of the caption; "Shakira on stage in Singapore Marina Bay Circuit concert. This picture is my brother's fajar dot fieryanto at yahoo dot com, he release this on CC-BY-SA" 2.31.107.238 (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

That's the image description added by the person who uploaded it. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 15:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Parents nationalities

The article is lacking the nationalities of her parents.

1- Her father was an American national of Lebanese descent.

2- Her mother is a Colombian national.

You'll need sources for this, and the prose you want added. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh. Thank you Sir ScottishFinnishRadish

"Shakira Isabel Mebarak Ripoll nació el 2 de febrero de 1977 en Barranquilla, Colombia. Es hija única de William Mebarak, estadounidense de origen libanés que emigró a Colombia a los 5 años, y de Nidia del Carmen Ripoll Torrado, colombiana de ascendencia catalana."

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Edit: 1) Her father was an American-born of Lebanese descent......(till the end)

2) Her Colombian mother has two Spanish surnames....(till the end) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.144.176.170 (talk) 23:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Shakira sales

On the Anghami page (the most important musical medium in the Middle East) and on the Celebraty Net Worth page it is specified that the Colombian singer has sold more than 125 million discs mixed with albums and singles.If we consider that Laundry Service sold 15 million copies, SHAKIRA sold 1.2 million, The oral fixation collection sold between them 12 million copies, Pies descalzos sold 5 million copies. MTV Unplugged sold 2 million copies. ¿Donde están los ladrones? sold 6-8 million copies. Sale el sol sold 4 million copies. She wolf sold 2 million copies. El dorado sold 2 million total copies. A total of 50 million sales that is adding the sales of singles of Hips don't lie with 12 million solid sales. Whenever Wherever with 10 million, Waka Waka with 10 million sales, Beautiful Liar sold 7 million sales, Torture sold more than 6 million copies. Try everything sold between 7-9 million copies. She wolf sold 7 million records. Can't remember to forget you sold 7 million records. Lalala sold 5 million copies. And blackmail sold 8 million total sales. underneath your clothes sold 4 million sales and Rabiosa sold 5 million copies. In total, it sold about 139 million records. That taking as sources pages like Billboard and reliable sources without counting streaming.

I think we should raise Shakira's position. I wait for an answer. Alejandro Ortiz 15 (talk) 22:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@Alejandro Ortiz 15: Sure, she sold 75 million records or slightly more than that figure, but its preferred you must ask this matter at the List of best-selling music artists; which seems tbh doesn't meet the requirements to have an inmediate upgrade due some key factors. Also, your breakdown to point out a figure as high as 139 million give us an "outlier number". Many or all are simply inflated numbers (it's more evident in some cases than others). Take the example of "Rabiosa" a 2011 song that you claimed have 5 million copies, when certified units/available sales are under 500,000 units overall. "Whenever Wherever" or "Hips don't lie" both have a solid numbers in certified units/available sales but the gap from claimed sales are notorious. I also noticed many of her worldwide claims sales, like the examples you have provided, came from Spanish, French, Portuguese or Italian Wikipedias, were those of her sales reported were vandalized or added with questionable sources, giving us circular inflated figures since then. Regards, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 23:23, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay, it seems to me that you should still check these links where some media claim at least 125 million copies by the singer since only Hips don't lie, Whenever Wherever and Waka Waka give very large numbers. If you can give an answer it would be very helpful. https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/shakira-turns-40-waka-waka-views-net-worth-facebook-likes-other-career-milestones-1604517 This link is from IBT and states the amount of sales by the singer. In any case, continue wrong, they tell me. https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/shakira-forbidden-from-appearing-in-videos-with-men-1355896-Mar2014/ this is other link.You can check and let me know if it's still wrong or okay because the source of the sales of 75 million is not very verifiable considering that it has high album sales and has a song with gigantic sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alejandro Ortiz 15 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Sources copy the same inflated idiotic sales figures from each other, that doesn't mean Shakira has actually sold 125 million records. This the same source which claims 125 million records in sales for Shakira also claims 20 million for the album Laundry Service. How can that album have sold 20 million when the worldwide available certified sales is totaling 8.4 million? 4 Million from Europe, 3 million from US, 500,000 from Canada, 420,000 from Australia, 300,000 from Mexico and some 175,000 units from Brazil, New Zealand, Argentina combined. These figures are all inflated by Shakira's record company and News outlets all copy them from each other.--Harout72 (talk) 01:11, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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Source claiming Nida del Carmen Ripoll Torrado is "half Italian"

Clearly nonsense so removing it. Php2000 (talk) 23:41, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Additional source on the matter. The "Catalan" origin seems to be more distant than she implies. Any claims of "Italian" ancestry is also marketing. Her mother is just a regular Colombian from the coast with no non-Spanish surnames, no particular lineage and no recent immigrant origin. https://www.eluniversal.com.co/farandula/shakira-y-sus-raices-bolivarenses-243367-PWEU352296 --Php2000 (talk) 23:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Yep. No Italian heritage or known surnames. Just a marketing gimmick. LATimes contradicted by serious Colombian research into her background and ancestry.--Huasteca (talk) 14:01, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

She has claimed to have an ancestor with the surname "Pisciotti". If she has any Italian roots, it's likely distant, and through a maternal ancestor, probably explaining why the surname wasn't passed down. The "El Universal" source doesn't give a full breakdown of the two surnames her maternal grandparents, great-grandparents, etc had. They only give her mothers surnames as "Ripoll Torrado" and a story about four Ripoll brothers who went to Colombia. I think it would be fine to say that she also states/claims she has partial/distant Italian roots.[7] Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:30, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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Copy right

Here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.173.138.156 (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

The link says "William Mebarak Chadid, of Lebanese and Macedonian[citation needed] descent." So they copied an early version of this page (this is what the article looked like in 2008). That means it is a WP:MIRROR site and shouldn't be here. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Pornography picture inside the article.

The article is blocked. But with the last modification someone put a pubis picture. I can't remove it. Can someone do it? 80.215.220.62 (talk) 10:45, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Already removed. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:09, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2022

I want to change the first picture of Shakira to a better and more flattering one. Parakissz (talk) 18:57, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done you'll have to provide an appropriately licensed photo. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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Somavia

You can link Somavía of the ILO, to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Somavía 2600:1700:7C10:AF50:E5BB:FF9A:7EA:BDFF (talk) 05:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

 Done (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2023

49.179.64.244 (talk) 01:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Shakira was born in Barranquilla Colombia. Her father however, was born in New York and her grand father was born in Colombia. It was her great grandfather who was Lebanese.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2023

Sold records figure should change form 85 million to 125 million.

The grammy museum is running an exhibit on Shakira and they show a photo with info claiming she’s sold 125 million records. The current Wikipedia shows only 85 million records. I found this source which supports the claim as well.

Article with reputed Shakira sales.

Photo of Grammy Museum exhibit. 2806:2F0:91E0:86F2:209D:93F6:3DD9:2ABA (talk) 03:09, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

•  Not done. None of your suggested sources is qualified to over-rule the existing sources we have which are based on official sales certifications plus an estimate for countries that don't keep track of sales. A jump of 50% higher is not warranted. Binksternet (talk) 04:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)