Talk:Southern Loloish languages

question

Do these languages need their own wikipedia pages?

• Tsukong [tsu33 kɔŋ33] (China): close to Coong
• Cauho [cau33 ho33] (Laos): divergent
• Bantang [ban33 taŋ33] (Laos): divergent
• Cantan [can33 tan33] (Laos): close to SinsaliBluethailand (talk) 06:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Not yet. We only have the names of those languages from a Payap MA dissertation. Once we get a bit more info (e.g., location info, number of speakers), then we can create articles on them. — Stevey7788 (talk) 09:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

We should also contact Sue Wright about these languages. See page 36 of Kitjapol dissertation. http://ic.payap.ac.th/graduate/linguistics/theses/Kitjapol_Thesis.pdf

• Dr. Kirk Person provided Pyen data from Myanmar and Laomian, Laopin and Tsukong data from China.
• Sue Wright provided Phunoi data from the varieties of Bantang, Cantan, Cauho, Laopan, Laoseng, Phongku, Phongset, and Sinsali from Laos.

— Stevey7788 (talk) 09:33, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Other Southern Loloish languages

Info that I got from Dr. Bai Bibo, p.c. See also Hani languages.

Additional Hao-Bai (Haoni-Baihong) languages

• Asong = Asuo
• Duota
• Budu = Bukong = Baihong
• Amu
• Duoni, a Haoni dialect (in Yuanyang and also Jinping)
• Angluo
• Lami

Additional Ha-Ya (Hani-Yani) languages

• Nuobi = Luobi (bi = 'tail'; downstream residents) (in Yuanyang and Jinping)
• Nuomei = Luomei (mei = 'head'; upstream residents)
• Gehe = Guozuo (the two might also be different, or Guozuo might be Kucong)
• Qiedi
• Khabi = Kabie

Unknown affiliation

• Habei

— Stevey7788 (talk) 09:38, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Additional Khabi locations outside Mojiang County.

• 绿春县大黑山乡撮芦村撮芦组 (or 撮洛)
• 江城县加禾乡南旺村大地房、石屏寨

— Stevey7788 (talk) 09:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Locations

• Bukong: Jiangcheng, Mojiang, and Zhenyuan counties; also in Honghe, Puer, Sipsongpanna, Jingdong (You 2013:159-160)
• Budu: Jiangcheng, Mojiang, Zhenyuan, and Yuanjiang counties; also in Puer, Honghe, Sipsongpanna, Jinggu, Simao, Xinping (You 2013:159-160)
• Duoni: Yuanyang and Jinping counties
• Duota: Jiangcheng, Xinping, and Yuanjiang counties; also in Puer and Zhenyuan (You 2013:159-160)
• Asuo: Jiangcheng, Yuanjiang, Lvchun, Yuanyang, and Jinping counties
• Amu: Mojiang County; also in Zhenyuan and Puer (You 2013:159-160)
• Woni: Zhenyuan and Xinping counties; Chuxiong Prefecture
• Nuomei: Yuanjiang and Jinping counties; also in Xinping (You 2013:159-160)
• Nuobi: Yuanyang, Xinping, Yuanjiang, and Jinping counties; also in Mojiang (You 2013:159-160)
• Suobi: Xinping County; also in Yuanjiang County (Bai 2010)
• Qidi: Jiangcheng, Mojiang, and Lvchun counties; also in Honghe, Puer, Zhenyuan, Sipsongpanna (You 2013:159-160)
• Kabie: Jiangcheng and Mojiang counties
• Lami: Jiangcheng, Mojiang, and Jinping counties; also in Zhenyuan, Honghe, Sipsongpanna (You 2013:159-160)
• Angluo: Jinping County; also in Yuanyang County (Zhang 1998)

— Stevey7788 (talk) 20:27, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 24 May 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 09:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hanoish languages → Southern Loloish languages – Southern Loloish is the name used by most scholars. Only Lama uses Hanoish, and only Bradley and his students use Southern Ngwi. Matisoff uses Southern Loloish, and so do most mainstream scholars. We already have the articles Northern Loloish languages, Central Loloish languages, and Southeastern Loloish languages, so it would be preferable to rename this article in order to remain consistent. — Stevey7788 (talk) 22:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

• Support. In all science topics, we should follow the scientific consensus/mainstream, not uncommon outlier alternatives.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  22:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

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