Talk:Stevie Ray Vaughan/Archive 2

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Pride and Joy disagreement

This article claims that Pride And Joy was written for this girlfriend and not his wife. The article on Pride And Joy says his wife believed the song was written about this girlfriend but in fact was written for this wife. So there is a conflict here. Unfortunately neither article sites a source. Perhaps we should change the section to say that its unclear who the song was written for until we get a source.--66.60.137.134 (talk) 21:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

In "The Guitar World Tribute to Stevie Ray Vaughan" Guitar World, August 2000, Chris Layton says, "'Pride and Joy" and "I'm Crying" are basically the same song but with different lyrics; "Pride and Joy" went back to the mid Seventies when he was living with his girlfriend, Lindi Bethel. "Love Struck baby" was a song that he'd written for his wife, Lenny, as well as "Lenny." Each girl had two songs, so he was keeping it even!'" I'm just clarifying here. I actually think this info isn't important to include in the article. KittyRayVaughan (talk) 23:12, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Setting The Record Straight

I don't know who wrote the Wikipedia page about Stevie Ray Vaughn,but there are some glaring omissions that have to be corrected. There are two people not mentioned in Stevie's biography who were instrumental in the discovery, development, and success of Stevie Ray Vaughn's career; Frances Carr and Chesley Millikin. To not mention them is comparable to not mentioning that Brian Epstein played a role in The Beatles success. Chesley Millikin was Stevie Ray's manager and directly responsible for his rise to stardom. Frances Carr, Chesley's partner at Classic Management provided the financial backing to launch Stevie's career. It was Chesley Millikin who was able to book Stevie at Montreux when he didn't have a record contract. It was Chesley Millikin who was responsible for Stevie connecting with Jackson Browne, John Hammond, David Bowie, the Rolling Stones,and many other music professionals. It was Chesley Millikin who got Stevie his first record contract and convinced John Hammond to produce it. Without Chesley Millikin's management and Frances Carr's financial backing, quite simply, Stevie Ray Vaughn would have probably never made it out of Austin. Anyone interested in the real story should read the following link:

[1] User: James Paxton

The text you're linking is obviously gushing about the unknown angel who helped bring the guitar hero to the world's notice. One would need to be cautious in judging the specific things it says, e.g. that Millikin asked Wexler to get SRV a slot at Montreux in '82. When it comes to why SRV jumped ship on Bowie's tour, there's lots of versions floating around. I've heard that Vaughan had been slotting in a few shows of his own in Europe between Bowie's dates, something Bopwie knew and was happy with, and then it came to a head just a few days before they were going to the tour premiere. It seems likely somebody (or more than one) pulled the strings from behind, for evidently SRV wanted to play Bowie's tour and Bowie wanted him on it. The idea that Millikin introduced SRV to Bowie and Browne seems far-fetched though. Every account I've heard makes it clear that it was the performance that won them over and that the contact happened quite spontaneously, and Bowie isn't a guy you could ask "come and take a look at my artistes...". He's interested out of what he sees himself or he is not. Strausszek (talk) 14:19, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Look Strausszek, I know you're trying to be discerning, however, it is no stretch at all that Millikin put Stevie together with either Browne or Bowie. Millikin, as manager of Kaleidoscope, knew Jackson in his "salad days" and was responsible for introducing him to David Lindley. Millikin managed numerous bands from the 60's on, including the Grateful Dead. He was extremely well connected and used his vast network to promote Stevie's career. My previous response was initiated because neither Millikin nor Frances Carr had been acknowledged in the Wiki article for their contribution to Stevie's career. That was an oversight that anyone who was there would corroborate. I was simply setting the record straight.... and I stand by it. User: James Paxton

The info about Milliken is correct. It is in several documentaries including one with Jackson Browne. KathleenDragomir (talk) 14:28, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Reading music

The paragraph on SRV's lack of ability to read music ("Perhaps the most amazing thing about Stevie Ray Vaughan is that he never learned to read music.") violated the peacock terms rule. There is also no supporting evidence for the assertion that SRV could not read music. --TheJeffMiller 15:27, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

In the remastered version of Texas Flood, on the SRV Speaks track Stevie Ray Vaughan himself says "since I can't read music and everything...", which is some supporting evidence that could be added in. -Guest, Oct 7

It's an excerpt from a Timothy White interview, wherein Stevie (like Hendrix) candidly admits to not being able to read music. Guitar World interviews substantiate this, and if you want me to don a dust mask and go into the attic, I will. If you go to Amazon and look up the remastered version of Texas Flood, you can listen to a sample of 'SRV Speaks' wherein Vaughan clearly confirms his musical illiteracy. Additionally, on October 28, 1985, Vaughan reiterates his lack of musical knowledge to "Rockline" interviewer Bob Coburn, and adds that he failed a course on music theory before he dropped out of high school.

Hello: No need to dust mask :) In the article "Stevie Ray Vaughan: The Triple-Crown Bluesman Talks Technique, Equipment, and Soul" by Dan Forte in Guitar World October 1984, SRV says: "I don't know what key I'm in sometimes." In answer to theoretical vocabulary, he says: "I don't know any of that stuff." Chord voicing? He answers: "I just look for things that sound right." SRV also states: "I almost learned how to read chord charts doing some of those Bowie things. But as soon as I learned how to read those charts, they took the charts away...I'd listen to to a couple of run-throughs.... Then I'd figure out where this Albert King lick or that Albert King lick would fit [laughs]." —Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyRayVaughan (talk • contribs) 00:44, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Helicopter crash

I hate to be the one to throw this but from what I understand in researching this and from remembering the immediate reports and stories after his terrible untimely death, I believe the whole Clapton gave up his seat thing is more nonsense and urban legend than reality.

Why is it ironic that Clapton gave up his seat on the helicopter that crashed causing his death?

There is no irony there. Often people call coincidental or otherwise interesting statements ironic when in fact there is no irony. I think Bush called his now-infamous Hezbollah remark ironic as well.

Good point, I don't see any irony in this fact either. It is interesting though, much like Waylon Jenning giving up his seat to Ritchie Valens in a coin toss. Maybe "incedently" would be a better choice of words207.157.121.50 10:19, 14 October 2005 (UTC)mightyafrowhitey

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Stevie was scheduled for a bus ride back to Chicago after the show, but unfortunately, he wanted to get back in a hurry that night to contact his fiance, Janna. Along with his brother Jimmie and his wife, they attempted to catch a ride on the last available helicopter, but there was only room for one more. It was decided Stevie could have the last seat. The only way Clapton fits into this equation is the fact that it was his entourage that was aboard this flight. It was pilot Jeffrey Brown, Clapton's folks, and SRV. As far as the mention of Waylon Jennings and Valens...it was Buddy Holly who lost the coin toss to Waylon. Richie Valens was not in desperation to board that flight. It was his first time in the air, as he had a huge fear of flying, and it would prove to be his last flight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.49.122 (talk) 20:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Not true. It has been well documented that Tommy Allsup was supposed to be on Buddy's plane and he flipped a coin with Ritchie Valens because Ritchie wanted to fly. Tommy later opened a club called "Tommy's Heads Up Saloon" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Allsup) because of the coin flip. The Big Bopper was not feeling well and he took Waylon's seat. Buddy was always going to be on the plane. He chartered the flight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91Bear (talk • contribs) 20:46, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

"All of the musicians boarded four helicopters bound for Chicago ..." says the article, but it's not true. At least two musicians from the concert, Wayne Jackson and Andrew Love, who played with the Robert Cray Band that night, did not board any helicopter, according to Jackson's memoir "In My Wildest Dreams". Coincidentally, they (Jackson and Love) also did not board the airplane that took Otis Redding to his death in 1967, after playing with him that night in concert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 20:50, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

There were 5 seats on the plane Jimmy and Connie Vaughan we're supposed to be on the fated flight. When they got to the helicopter they saw pilot Jeff Brown, promoter Bobbie Brooks, Clapton's bodyguard Nigel Brown and Clapton's assistant tour manager Colin Smythe. There was one seat remaining and Stevie asked Jimmy and Connie if they minded if he took the seat as he was anxious to get back to Chicago KathleenDragomir (talk) 14:36, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Influences

I was wondering wther it would be worthwhile adding a section listing his immediate influences, such as Freddy King, etc. Andrew Spinner 17:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe you meant Albert King didn't you? I am an avid SRV historian and amateur musician and out of everything I have ever read I have never heard or seen Freddy King's name mentioned as an influence to SRV. other noteworthy influences are Jimi Hendrix of course and over all according to Stevie himself in numerous interviews (too numerous to list here) his Brother Jimmy was his biggest influence.

Freddie King is a huge influence on SRV, and pretty much any other guitar player out of Texas. SRV often opened with 'Hideaway' and SRV often cited the "three kings" (albert, bb, freddie) as major influences.

I have listened to some Freddy King tunes and it sounds to me like he could have well been an influence.he originated from Texas until he moved to chicago in 1949, where he jammed with Howlin Wolf and Muddy Waters. but like you I dont remmember hearing him mentioned when it relates to SRV but listen to some of Freddy's playin and you might have to ask yourself if there is some influence.

point taken, I guess you could say there may have been more ifluences than just the ones he mentions. I have oftened wondered how or what he felt about Jimmy Page, Rory gallagher, and Alvin Lee although these fellow guitarists weren't early blues musicians they have all claimed the same influences as Stevie did and since they were all around before him, I wonder if they had any influence on him....just curious has anyone out there heard any of these musicians mentioned in interviews or other media by Stevie?

I have read somewhere in the liner notes of a SRV CD that he also was strongly influenced by Lonnie Mack. This should be included. Check out this entry in WP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Mack

Hello all: I have an article called "Stevie Ray Vaughan: The Triple Crown Bluesman Talks Technique, Equipment, and Soul" by Dan Forte. It was published in Guitar Player, October 1984. During the interview, Stevie mentions Freddie King a few times as a "main blues player" he listened to as well as the others. Quote: "I got alot of turnarounds from Freddie King." —Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyRayVaughan (talk • contribs) 22:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Equipment

I added the line about Number One being a gift from Ray Henning of Ray Henning's Heart of Texas Music in Austin, TX.

I deleted a made-up fact about his guitar 'Red'. The handedness of a guitar neck does not affect the sound or feel of a guitar in any significant way. 00:04 March 1 2007 (GMT)

Did a few corrections to this section, in order to make it more understandable for people who don't know a lot about guitars. For instance, the "rosewood neck" was corrected to "rosewood fingerboard" (Fender never used rosewood for the necks of its mass production Stratocasters - only for the fingerboards). Elp gr 09:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I have read that the original neck on #1 was replaced due to excessive wear (and general abuse - such as during 'Third Stone...' on the El Mocambo show), and that this neck in turn was damaged in an on-stage accident in the months prior to Vaughan's death. Can this be corroborated and if so perhaps it ought to be included in the Equipment section?

Yes, I read in a biography of his that the neck on #1 was snapped in half in an accident that almost (or did, I dont' remember) injured Vaughan himself, from what I remember. A few other of his guitars were damaged too, I think. --Ortzinator 05:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what caused the damage to the neck, but I do know he was pretty rough with it on stage. He had big hands and would really manhandle the guitar. I can't imagine that would break it though.

BTW, I'm pretty sure the tattoo he had on his chest was the logo from the old "Peacock" blues label, which was based in Houston in the '50s and early '60's.

Actually, when he got it when he was drunk. It was supposed to be a Phoenix but he was squirming so much from the pain that it ended up looking like a peacock. (Something like that) --Ortzinator 04:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Well the story that he told was that he wasn't old enough to get a tattoo and flipped through a book and pointed at the Phoenix/Peacock. The design was meant to be an arm tattoo but he didn't find that out until years later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.169.76.17 (talk) 02:56, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

It was widely known that he had (2)two blackface vibroverbs. Numbers 5 and 6 off the line according to serial number but purchased at two different times and two different places. If I can find the exact ref to the fact, I'll add it to the article. SkyDogJr (talk) 21:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

re: "Numbers 5 and 6 off the line according to the serial number". This is impossible. Fender amplifier serial numbering schemes from 1964-1967 do not support such precise determinations. My sources for this statement include Forrest White (Fender's man in charge of "the line" to which SkyDogJr refers during the period in question) and Don Randall (another well known and highly respected Fender exec, and VP of Sales for Fender during the time in question). Many other contemporaries from this era who worked there have stated as much about the serialization issue. In fact, it is widely reported and widely understood by virtually every recognized Fender amplifier specialist and historian that strict serialization of chassis numbers during production runs for 1964-1966 amplifiers was non-existent at Fender. This was true both for guitars and amplifiers. It is true that the chassis themselves DO have a unit-specific serial number, and that each amplifier in a BATCH (typically 20-35 amps) might also have a grease pencil marking (or in some cases, an ink stamping). Those marks hint at that amp's relative position in THAT batch or a particular date of assembly (or sub-assembly). There is currently no credible evidence which links batch marks to chassis numbers, or which establishes that chassis were sequentially assembled beginning (in this case) with unit A00100. Further, there is every indication that chassis were picked completely haphazardly from the storage shelves at Fender during the Fullerton days, and with no regard for the precise chassis number's relevance to production. Thus, the implication that SRV's Vibroluxes were somehow "special" because they were "early production units" (aka S/N 5 and 6 off the line) is absolutely unsupportable with any credible evidence. If someone wants to quote this in the article, simply say "SRV's two 196x Fender Vibroverbs were chassis #A00105 and A00106", while perhaps providing a photograph or link to credible serialization documentation for pre CBS Fender amplifiers. CoolBlueGlow (talk) 19:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

While Vaughan did own two vibroluxes, his main amps were two Fender Super Reverbs and Marshall. He started with a 4140 Marshall with a 2x12". During his prime he used the Super Reverbs for distortion and a Marshall Plexi for his clean sound - he admits this is the opposite of what players might think because the Marshalls are known for distortion and Fenders are known for their clean sound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.91.219.129 (talk) 13:55, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Why did they boo?

Most of us here know about the Montreaux Jazz incident in 1982 where he was booed. I read from a couple diffrent sources that he was booed for his hard blues sound, whereas other sources(less) say he was booed for bein' to loud. In all honesty I dont know why, but in my opinion it would have to be for the loudness. I mean many famous people played there such as Eric Clapton and Johhny Cash, why wernt they booed for their type of music. Also on the dvd when SRV comes back he is treated as a hero. all i am doin is makin suggestions fly on Littlewing1 02:18, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Weren't they playing on a night that was supposed to be all acoustic music? Anyone know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.126.234 (talk) 22:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It says in the documentary section of the double DVD set, Live At Montreux, 1982& 1985, that the band was "overamped" and that the concert was a folk, acoustic one. I bought this DVD set from Public Television Station (PBS) KVIE in Sacramento. Not sure if it's available elsewhere or not. SRV lvr (talk) 06:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Cultural prejudice too, something that's been pointed out by a few people (I don't recall the exact references). The band were glaringly white, they were playing it loud and flamboyant and Stevie wore a big Stetson. To some of the blues purists it must have seemed as if Van Halen would claim to be playing the blues, it violated their deep seated pieties saying that blues was the hard and honest music of black men. With someone like Eric Clapton they could have accepoted it because he was an acclaimed star and everyone knows about his commitment to the blues, but with these Texan guys it would have seemed like it was a cheap rip-off. By 1985, when SRV returned he was obviously a star in his own right, in '82 he had been as unknown as Tori Amos was when she played Montreux first time in 1991 (also on dvd now, a very nice show)

It should be said too that Texas Flood, while it's solidly blues, expanded the mould of how blues would sound on record: it's a much more hotted up, shinier and beefier sound than "classical" blues records. Strausszek (talk) 13:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

this was what this what this is the dog this is the was — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.230.192 (talk) 23:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Prior to Double Trouble going on, the music was very low key and soothing .Stevie came on playing " like he was breaking out of jail" as Jimmy Vaughan puts it. It was unfortunate that the line up was such that it went from elevator music to Stevie melting amplifies with his Texas Blues. They we're amazingly professional about the bad response. But next time they played in Montreux he was embraced and loved for the musician he was,! KathleenDragomir (talk) 14:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Date correction under Adult Life and Career section, first paragraph:

The year 1975 is listed as the year he left the Cobras and started Triple Threat and is in error. I photographed Stevie with Paul Ray and the Cobras in 1976 at Steamboat Springs in Austin, Texas, for a story about Paul Ray.

Here's one of the shots I took:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/estabrook/502844563/

Just thought you guys would want to correct the date. I'm not going to get into some pissin' contest with screen names about editing this page. You can change it if you want to...

Mark

Hey Mark, it was 1977. I made the change and cited a source. KittyRayVaughan (talk) 00:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Lenny (guitar)

Lenny was a 1965 maple-neck that was named after his wife, Lenora. The Stevie Ray Vaughan "Lenny" Stratocaster Replica Guitar It had a very bright, thin sound. Supposedly, Vaughan found this guitar in a pawnshop, but couldn't afford to buy it. One of Vaughan's roadies, Byron Barr, bought it and he and Lenora presented it to Vaughan for his birthday in 1976. According to the story, Lenora was supposed to pay Byron for the guitar; she started a pool party with her friends to collect the money, but it was Vaughan who eventually settled the debt, with cash and a leather jacket. Its neck was originally a thin rosewood, but Vaughan replaced it with a thicker non-Fender maple neck, that was given to him by friend Billy Gibbons. Lenny can be seen and heard on "Live at the El Mocambo". He played it sometimes at the end of the set during the encore, playing the song of the same name, Lenny. Vaughan also used the guitar during the song "Riviera Paradise", this can also be seen and heard on the DVD "Live From Austin Texas". After his divorce from his wife and the meeting of the new love in his life, Janna Lapidus, he started calling this guitar "Scotch". Despite other information from various sources, this shouldn't be confused with the butter-colored guitar, as described below. The Fender Custom Shop is currently making replicas for this guitar, coming out on December 12, 2007.

Just a quick note here, but when you watch the El Mocambo video, as well as other live performances, it clearly shows the headstock of this guitar has the traditional Fender markings on it, i.e. "Fender" in lower left corner and "Custom Body" on the right side of the headstock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.41.74 (talk) 19:08, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Resolved

I propose that the article Lenny (guitar) be merged into this one. While Stevie Ray Vaughan's guitars may be of encyclopedic interest enough to include in the parent article, it seems highly unlikely that alone it can meet the notability guidelines. Since this information might, if sourced, be of interest to readers of this article, I am beginning with the proposal to merge rather than examining options within the deletion process. The article was tagged for speedy, but under an invalid criterion. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 03:27, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree that SRV's guitars don't require individual articles for each one; however, I'm concerned that a section about his guitars will become overly long in comparison to the rest of the article if we merge it all here. What about merging the individual guitar articles into just one article, separate from this one, called SRV's guitars or something like that? Strobilus (talk) 03:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Are there other articles about his guitars that you know of? :) It might be helpful to determine if an article on his guitars can sustain standalone status. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 03:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC). Oh, I see by the infobox that there are, although several of them have already been redirected back to this article. I don't see much by way of sourcing on any of them, which is problematic for creating a new article. Taht said, I do think it would be better to have a single article on his instruments than to have multiple articles. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 03:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, there are all these articles: SRV's Number One, SRV's Scotch, SRV's Red, and SRV's Main, plus all the info here. I reckon it would make a decent article if it were all amalgamated. Strobilus (talk) 03:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, let's just put them in one article called "SRV guitars". Anyone agree? Izzy007 Talk 15:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

"SRV guitars" sounds good to me. It's a reasonable compromise between several small disjoint articles (one for each guitar) and creating an incorrect emphasis on guitars in the main artist's article. Truthanado (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

<reset indent>Well, let's wait a few days to see if anybody has any objections and, if not, I'll merge them into a single article. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm in the process of joining them together at SRV guitars. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I've merged all of the information that I've found at SRV guitars. The article needs a better header section, obviously, which I hope one of you can supply. :) Improved sourcing would be valuable, also. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I added an intro and did some cleanup, which should satisfy the tags that were on the article. Like most articles, this could still use some improving. Truthanado (talk) 02:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

dfbdzfgzdfbdf nlbjzd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.207.41 (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Family. I am curious to see a photo of his wife, Lenny, and girlfriend, Janna Lapidus, but cannot find any photos at all of Lenora, and only one photo of Janna Lapidus apparently with the fan club President. Also there are no updates that I can find on their lives w/Google. SRV lvr (talk) 06:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Question: On the main entry page it states that Stevie was "was still driving a delivery truck to support himself" when Let's Dance came out. It has often been repeated, including by Stevie himself, I believe, that the last "day job" he ever had was the one he quit in his early teens after falling into a barrel of cooking grease. Am I missing something here? Perhaps he is being confused with Muddy Waters, who was driving a delivery truck when "I Can't Be Satisfied" hit it big? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.54.66.218 (talk) 20:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Answer to Question above: I think, rather, that someone got confused when in interviews the band made reference to SRV going back to driving the milk truck (that they used to haul their gear around in from gig to gig) instead of jet-setting with David Bowie around the world on his tour. KittyRayVaughan (talk) 00:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Strings

It has been widely reported in articles in Guitar Player and other publications that SRV used .13-.58 gauge strings, tuned down 1/2 step. This has huge implications for tone. I am surprised that no one has mentioned this...since we're bringing up esoterica like what kind of picks he used. CoolBlueGlow (talk) 05:53, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

GHS Nickel Rockers.

DC— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.168.240 (talk) 11:35, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Changed the ranking on the class of the article

I find it amazing that any editor can rank a musician's biography article with only one reference source as a B-level biography article. The same for a [[guitar]ist group article with so little about Vaughn's technique, and equipment; thus I ranked the biography article as a Start-level, and the guitarist section as a C-level. Look at the Derek Trucks article; it has more flow and information about biography, clips of music, and flow, and is ranked Start, and the guitar section, ranked C-level surpasses that of Vaughn's. Please add more references --there are so many statements here that could easily be challenged, and I'm sure somewhere there must be a free image of Vaughn that can also be used. Thanks for your help on this piece. There's so arguing that Vaughn's importance in the blues rock genre is high; let's work to show it to new readers! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 21:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the structure is also a mess, this article could really use some work. Soxwon (talk) 02:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

The Eagles

It is true that Wikipedia is not a memorial, but that reference was not a memorial at all. It is a fact and an interesting piece of trivia which is located within the article and within context instead of a separate list which Wikipedia frowns on. It is an eerie coincidence and it deserves to be mentioned in the article I think. The article wouldn't suffer with or without it, but there is no harm in leaving it in.ChrisSimpson (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Copyedits

I changed a lot of text here, but attempted to leave the content alone, with some exceptions:

• Even now, the piece has lots of material that is at best trivial and/or tangential to SRV. I took out a couple of glaring examples, e.g., the mention of the amount won by the spouses of (some of?) the fatal trip's other passengers.
• I commented out a broken bit that talked about a Grammy award but tied it to a concert rather than a recording.

Also, this piece is horribly dry. There is no sense of the man's passions, any part of his character other than his addictions, why he wrote music (other than to memorialize someone) etc. How did he get so good? Did he practice all night long? Was he humble/arrogant? funny/sarcastic/dour?

Lfstevens (talk) 18:09, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Signature and Craig Hopkins site?

Hi, 2 things that I think should be included

1. His Signature - http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/GTS_300kw/?action=view&current=SRVSig.jpg

2. Craig hopkins site - http://www.stevieray.com/ should be listed under links, its by far the biggest and best SRV place on the Internet. Perhaps also include the books written about SRV. Craigs, and the Caught in the Crossfire book too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.18.133 (talk) 07:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

oak cliff

The other poster was correct that Dallas has no suburb called "Oak Creek." It also has no suburb named "Oak Cliff." Oak Cliff was once a separate municipality, but was annexed by the larger city in 1908 (103 years ago as I write). To speak of Oak Cliff as a "suburb" of Dallas is a little like calling Brooklyn a "suburb" of New York City. It in fact once was, but New York completed the consolidation of Brooklyn into the larger municipality in 1898.Maccb (talk) 02:38, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

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Associated acts

Stevie Ray Vaughan was on the David Bowie album "Lets Dance". So, I was thinking David Bowie should be added as an associated act. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 555Dragonite (talk • contribs) 01:13, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Musical Instruments/Genres

I have a question and a little rant for the musical instruments he played. Didn't he play drums? I remember reading on the Wikipedia page for Soul to Soul that he played the drums on "Empty Arms." And I know for a fact that he played bass (it says so in one of my guitar books.) And for the genres, (not to be a sourpuss or anything) but it should say for the first genre "Blues," then "Rock." I just think that that's how it should be, because he obviously played Blues a lot more often than Rock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LinkReyIndyFan (talk • contribs) 01:33, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Include gig database and set lists?

There is a gig database that purports to list every show performed by Stevie Ray Vaughan as well as a database purporting to show the set list for each show. While I think both may be incomplete in some respects, and I don't know how the content has been verified, I think it would be useful to add as a section. Thoughts? I am new to Wikipedia, so apologies in advance if this suggestion has already been addressed in the past. Chartwig (talk) 12:55, 11 May 2013 (UTC)chartwig

I see it was reverted. I added a similar link to Gov't Mule and it too was removed. I would like to think this is policy pedantry overtaking common sense. I don't have time to figure out which talk page would be the best venue to discuss this issue, but I would think it needs to be addressed. RadioKAOS  – Talk to me, Billy 20:52, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Requested move affecting this article

I have proposed moving the article Lane Huffman to the page Stevie Ray, which is currently a disambiguation page that points to Lane Huffman and Stevie Ray Vaughan. You can submit your views here. McPhail (talk) 21:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

How SRV is remembered

'Was suprised to read that SRV is "best known" as a member of Double Trouble. That seems like saying Eric Clapton is best known for his association with Cream. This does not take anything away from other fine musicians associated with legendary artists. I doubt this is controversial; but if so, valid citable sources will decide what should appear in the WP article. Regards, Paavo273 (talk) 00:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. I don't see this in the article now so I presume it was removed. Vertisis (talk) 13:55, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Cast of thousands

He was in a band early in his life called Cast of Thousands. This is not mentioned at all, and some of the dates do not line up. Apparently he was in this band as early as age 14.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_9o6MvOz-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGh7avMddo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVV5aHgDFAc

Stephen Tobolowski was in the band with him. He's famous as an actor. Most know him as Ned Ryerson on Groundhog Day.

Fund

Ok will donate very soon. Promised — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.84.252.80 (talk) 00:07, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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How all this works

How all this works I don't know. And I doubt my comment will make it here. But you people mis-spelling Vaughan as Vaughn don't need to be giving any kind of opinion on Stevie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.46.77.140 (talk) 00:14, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Marriage

Shouldn't his long term relationship and marriage to Lenora Bailey aka Lenny Vaughan be included? KathleenDragomir (talk) 14:25, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

It is included under the "Double Trouble" section, in the first paragraph. Search for "Lenny". Outriggr (talk) 03:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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Reversed Tremolo Bar

Not a single word about his reversed tremolo bar? He used a left hand setup on Number One, would be nice to at least mention it.

SRV discography

There's a proposal to merge the Stevie Ray Vaughan posthumous discography article into the Stevie Ray Vaughan discography article. Feel free to join the discussion about this, at Talk:Stevie Ray Vaughan discography#Proposed merge. (Please comment there and not here, to keep the discussion all in one place.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 23:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

"The pilot, Jeff Brown, was unqualified at the time of the crash"

This sentence is in the top of this article. However the paragraph on Vaughan's death in this article as well as the article Death of Stevie Ray Vaughan don't mention this. Instead it says:

Pilot Jeff Brown was instrument-rated and had many hours of experience operating the Bell 206B at night.

So which is it? 209.6.25.213 (talk) 16:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

The sentence was removed in this edit. 209.6.25.213 (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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"...an hour's worth of supporters"?

Under the heading "Music career: Carnegie Hall", the last paragraph begins with the statement "...Vaughan attended a private party...where he was greeted by an hour's worth of supporters." This is nonsensical; it's difficult to even guess what is being implied here. Can anyone make sense of it? 50.0.136.136 (talk) 22:32, 4 August 2021 (UTC)