Talk:Stir (band)

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POV problems[edit]

The article need a lot of work to conform to the policys of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Verifiability. Claims of "wide critical acclaim", "cemented themselves" and "unbelievable rendition" either need to be cited or re-written to be more neutral. Regards, MartinRe 10:50, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed/rewritten some of these, bar the "cemented themselves" one, as couldn't see how to phrase that better right now. Some questions come to mind for those knowing more about the band:
  • Is the band currently active? (official site says on vacation)
  • Dates of festival/active from/etc need to be verified - I changed festival date as per MP3.com, but that means date active is after first album release date!
Article needs a lot more sources/offical reviews/etc to show notability as per WP:MUSIC, though. MartinRe 15:02, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been searching for more articles about the band, but in 2000 most of the reviews would have been dead tree only. Unfortunately the "Official" website for the band is sorely lacking. I'm fixing the NPOV issues also. I will add more comments to the AfD for this article. Krakrjak 03:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 26 July 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Stir (band) (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 10:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


– The current situation is WP:ASTONISH-ing due to lack of notability of really any subject listed at Stir (disambiguation), including the "St. Louis group" subject currently at Stir. There is not a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Steel1943 (talk) 04:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support truly astonishing and un-encyclopaedic In ictu oculi (talk) 08:58, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, no clear primary topic. —Xezbeth (talk) 09:35, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Nick Number (talk) 14:22, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, per WP:ASTONISH. No clear primary topic. Move disambiguation page to basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support but move to Stir (band) which is the correct disambiguation per WP:BANDDAB, i.e. "when the musical ensemble members perform by playing musical instruments". There aren't many other articles with this title and the band does get more than half of all pageviews, but that will be partly due to this article occupying the basename and they do seem somewhat obscure having no separate articles for any albums or songs, and no articles on any other language Wiki. PC78 (talk) 16:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Nominator comment: Stir (band) works for me as well. I started the discussion with Stir (group) because that is the identity used in the article when I started this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 01:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Stir (band) per PC78, and the group is clearly not primary by PT#2. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:43, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC - no topic has more than 50% of pageviews. BUT NOT PER WP:ASTONISH - this situation is not what that supplement to the WP:MOS is about, like at all. Dohn joe (talk) 17:26, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:TPTM (a section of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC) says "We certainly don't want to astonish our readers, and the topic that comes first to mind indeed often is suitable as the primary topic" so I don't see how you can say that ASTONISH doesn't apply to PRIMARYTOPIC. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I think because WP:ASTONISH (and indeed the whole of WP:BETTER) refers to article content and structure, not titling and disambiguation. The reference at WP:TPTM seems more for the general principle of least astonishment than anything written in that supplement. PC78 (talk) 11:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but should be (band) not (group) per WP:NCMusic HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 21:58, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support because stir could refer to mixing. CookieMonster755✉ 23:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Stir (band) per PC78.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:48, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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