Talk:The Bang-Bang Club (book)

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Start to add some book reviews[edit]

Book review by Niranjan Karnik (Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Stanford University).^[1]

... The book covers Marinovich and Silva's personal experience working on the frontlines, as well as that of Ken Oosterbroek and Kevin Carter, both of whom lost their lives to the violence of their profession in different ways. … Its overall value is not as much in its use as source of history, but in how it openly exposes the way journalists suffer in the course of their work, and the heavy ethical and moral questions they face on an daily basis.

... Carter, for example, won the 1994 Pulitzer Prize for a photograph of a starving child that he took in Somalia in 1993. The famous photograph shows a small, emaciated girl curled over in exhaustion while a vulture sits a short distance away on the ground next to her. The photograph became the cover image for many humanitarian groups in their fundraising appeals. It also raised ethical questions about the limits that journalists will go to get an image.

... This book lacks the academic and critical analysis that would be expected for most research in media studies, but as a perspective into the dynamics of wartime reporting it is valuable.

References

^ [1] Niranjan Karnik. Review of Marinovich, Greg; Silva, Joao, The Bang Bang Club: Snapshots from a Hidden War. H-SAfrica, H-Net Reviews. June, 2003.The Personal and Professional Price of Journalism. H-Net: Humanities & Social Sciences Online.

More reviews coming soon. Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 21:54, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS more text is coming too to support the citations in a WP styl. Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 22:45, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Now the update of the review. I delete the first posting for this. Please help to fix the formating and my wording. Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 07:46, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The History of the book[edit]

Hello - the next text I add to this article. Please help to do it "straight". The text:

History

In the years between 1990 and 1994 the fight from apartheid to democracy in South Africa was extreme violent. About the members of the Bang Bang Club was much written at this time and later too. But the stories painted a picture of a group of hard-living men wo worked, played and hung out together pretty much all of the time, how Greg Marinovich wrote in the preface of the book. The next sentence started with the words: Let us set the record straight: … In 1997 started Marinovich and Joao Silva to write the book.^[1] In the Acknowledgments were mentioned the many „Impimpi“ - the informants who contributed to the book. Impimpi is a Zulu word and in the Glossary of the book as „spy“ translated. This 45 people, the parents of Kevin Carter also, helped Marinovich and Silva to write the book „straight“. Judith Matloff, also listed under impimpi, wrote in an article: But the reporters and photographers stationed in South Africa at the time were also compassionate human beings who exposed themselves to danger because they wanted to record history.^[2]

The book was first published January 2000 by William Heinemann, London, UK and then by Basic Books, New York. It was translated into Polish, Portuguese, Spanish and 2015 into German. It is published in 19 Editions.^[3]

References

^ The Bang-Bang Club, Preface
^ [2] Judith Matloff: Bang Bang Off Target. Columbia Journalism Review, CJR, 2011.
^ https://www.goodreads.com/work/editions/263261-the-bang-bang-club-snapshots-from-a-hidden-war published in 19 Editions.

Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 13:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish translations[edit]

@Maxim Pouska: Hi! What Spanish sources are you using? I suggest quoting the original Spanish sentences you will translate from the source (for example {{cite web|url=XXX|title=XXXX|date=XXXX|accessdate=XXXX|quote=(put original Spanish words here)}} - If the text is too long or a significant chunk of the body of the article, truncate it like this: {{cite web|url=XXX|title=XXXX|date=XXXX|accessdate=XXXX|quote=(beginning [...] end)}} WhisperToMe (talk) 06:43, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@WhisperToMe: I ussing only citations based on reliable, published sources, for my text in articles. Take a look at Georg Nees William Fetter or Alex Kempkens as example, and my site. I did write this articles. In this case the sources are from Spanish journalists - reliable, too. But the topic is higly controvers - writen first from a western perspective, based in NYC. I have to add the european and asia, african perspective to this articles. In all this articles I did already a lot of adding information: Bang Bang Club, BBC (book + (film), the menbers Greg Marinovich and João Silva and the most in The vulture and the little girl. On the talk pages of this articles you find my explanation for my chances and some diskussion.

I ussing first the original Spanisch text and then the translation via google for short citations. I am a German and don't now Spanish, but I see that the first translation via google into English is not to bad. To correct the translations ist the point I need some help.

I researched last year alle the sources I need. RL is at this time to strong and I needed to stoped the work in December 17. I can start again in December 18. or january 19. At this time I would like to get help. Best. PS English is not my first language.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 12:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Maxim Pouska: If you're able to get scans of the Spanish sources feel free to send them to me! My Spanish is quite basic but I think I can help out a bit. They might be available on Google Books... WhisperToMe (talk) 12:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@WhisperToMe: I can get scans or jpgs of the texts and links too - I do it in December. RL is handcuffing me at this time. Best.--Maxim Pouska (talk) 08:07, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok! Ping me when you're ready! WhisperToMe (talk) 08:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] [1] Niranjan Karnik. Review of Marinovich, Greg; Silva, Joao, The Bang Bang Club: Snapshots from a Hidden War. H-SAfrica, H-Net Reviews. June, 2003.The Personal and Professional Price of Journalism. H-Net: Humanities & Social Sciences Online.

[2] The Bang-Bang Club, Preface

[3] [2] Judith Matloff: Bang Bang Off Target. Columbia Journalism Review, CJR, 2011.

[4] ttps://www.goodreads.com/work/editions/263261-the-bang-bang-club-snapshots-from-a-hidden-war published in 19 Editions.

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