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2009[edit]

I have removed an incorrect piece of information from the article. The part which I removed read: "In several passages of the Christian Bible (eg. Mark 16:9), Mary Magdalene is reported to be the first person to see the risen Jesus. In the early Christian Gospel of Mary Magdalene, she describes this sighting as a divine vision." The problem with this is that, in the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, she is not talking about her experience with the resurrected Christ which is reported in Mark 16:9, as this passage stated. In the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, she discusses a conversation which she had with Christ about a vision she had had about him. She then describes the vision to those who are listening to her story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.163.18.2 (talk) 13:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs to be expanded to include NT citations. Talk:Jesus#Jesus_Seminar.2C_part_2 has information on where to start.

For example, I believe Mark 16:9 is the *only* place in the NT that claims Mary was the first to see the resurrected Jesus. In addition, there are other versions of Mark 16, which see for details. Paul's visions are recorded in Road to Damascus. Peter's visions are recorded in Acts. Mary's vision is recorded in Luke 24:22-24.

Hallucinations[edit]

Most psychologists dispute the possibility that a group of people can witness the same hallucination. Christian apologist scholars Gary Habermas and William Lane Craig argue that the hallucination and vision explanations for the resurrection are not plausible [1] [2][3] -- Aren't there some factual accounts of mass hysteria or mass delusions? Besides, few people aren't 'masses' and therefore the mutual delusions could be easier. What about delusions caused by strong belief in something, some kind of auto-suggestion etc? Even to me, non-psychiatrist, it seems obvious that hallucinations aren' the only known delusional state. What about the Jerusalem syndrome that is described in Wikipedia to a large detail? Also, few people, being in very close relations with the deceased person aren't a mass. Could a psychologist speak out here? Critto —Preceding comment was added at 23:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Major rewrite[edit]

Today I deleted a large unsourced section of Bible verses per WP:PSTS and WP:NOR, and added material with sources about Strauss, Renan, Grass and so on. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apologetic scholars[edit]

Having a section on apologetic scholars is not an excuse to use this article for apologetics and editorialized info. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 10:08, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]