Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Ambler
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:24, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
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Ernest Ambler[edit]
... that Ernest Ambler was a British-born, Oxford-educated physicist who served as United States Under Secretary of Commerce for Technology?Source: [1]
Created by DarjeelingTea (talk). Self-nominated at 05:22, 21 December 2016 (UTC).
New enough, long enough (1876 B readable prose). Neutral enough, most if not all statements are cited and spot-checking some of them checks out. Earwig tool does not show any copyvio issue. About the hook, though, the source you linked only say he was Acting Under Secretary, could you update the hook to be more accurate? Also, the title is slightly different in the source and in the hook. The source says "Acting Under Secretary for Technology in the Department of Commerce" not "Under Secretary of Commerce for Technology". Or maybe just use one of his other title in the hook to avoid confusion? HaEr48 (talk) 07:23, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the review, HaEr48. I've proposed an Alt here:
- Alt-1:
... that Ernest Ambler was a British-born, Oxford-educated physicist who served as the Acting Under Secretary for Technology in the United States Department of Commerce? - DarjeelingTea (talk) 07:29, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, DarjeelingTea. Because he is alive shouldn't the hook use "is" instead of "was"? But English is not my first language so please correct me if I'm wrong. Also I added Template:Page numbers improve tag in the article, please address that. Books should be cited with page number. HaEr48 (talk) 07:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- HaEr48 - I don't believe Dr Ambler is with us anymore but, you're right, that in the absence of a RS confirming death we should use present tense. I'm providing an Alt-2 below. Also, I've resolved the page number question.
- Alt-2:
... that Ernest Ambler is a British-born, Oxford-educated physicist who served as the Acting Under Secretary for Technology in the United States Department of Commerce? - DarjeelingTea (talk) 07:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, DarjeelingTea. Because he is alive shouldn't the hook use "is" instead of "was"? But English is not my first language so please correct me if I'm wrong. Also I added Template:Page numbers improve tag in the article, please address that. Books should be cited with page number. HaEr48 (talk) 07:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Ah.. so you think/know he's not alive anymore but there's no RS confirming death? Ah that's a tough one :( Anyway, I think this nomination is good to go. I'm noting that this is your first DYK attempt, you don't need to perform QPQ. Thanks! HaEr48 (talk) 07:55, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- @DarjeelingTea and HaEr48: Can I suggest ALT3. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Alt3 ... that Ernest Ambler, a British-born, Oxford-educated physicist, became the Director of the National Bureau of Standards in the United States?
- Alt3 is fine with me. Thanks, Cwmhiraeth! HaEr48 (talk) 19:21, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- @HaEr48: Would you like to give it a tick of approval then? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- yup, approved. Sorry didn't know that the tick icon carries formal meaning :) HaEr48 (talk) 20:35, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- @HaEr48: At the top of the Nominations page is a pink panel "List of DYK Hooks by Date". A bot looks to see if the last symbol in a review is a tick, and if so it is included in the panel as being verified and therefore available for promotion to a prep set. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:04, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
