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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 06:37, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Regrettably, no further edits have been made, and the article still has the identified issues. Closing as unsuccessful.

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Medical–industrial complex

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  • ... that the 1970's Dalkon Shield IUD is one of the first examples of the dangers of the medical–industrial complex? Source: Kolata G. The sad legacy of the Dalkon Shield. New York Times, Dec 6, 1987
    • ALT1: ... that the medical–industrial complex creates chain healthcare and drug inflation? Source: Wohl, Stanley. The Medical Industrial Complex / Stanley Wohl. First edition. New York: Harmony Book, 1984: 85-98
    • ALT2: ... that chain hospitals can inflate health care costs with the goal to increase profit? Source: Wohl, Stanley. The Medical Industrial Complex / Stanley Wohl. First edition. New York: Harmony Book, 1984: 85-98
    • Reviewed:

5x expanded by CatherineGCC (talk). Self-nominated at 21:22, 24 October 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - The sentence The Medical-Industrial Complex is intertwined with the workings of the United States's near-fully privatized healthcare industry is not sourced.
  • Neutral: Unknown
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Of the three hooks, ALT2 appears to be most interesting. None of the hooks contain a link to the article itself.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article contains several issues with the MOS, but that does not preclude DYK eligibility. The most important problem here is the hook; none of the three hooks contain the required bolded link to the article. – dudhhr (1 enby in a trenchcoat) talk contribs (he/they) 19:49, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

This is my first DYK review, someone else should take a look at both the article and my review. – dudhhr (1 enby in a trenchcoat) talk contribs (he/they) 19:51, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
@CatherineGCC: The first two hooks now have links, but the problem with the unsourced sentence has not been fixed. – dudhhr (1 enby in a trenchcoat) talk contribs (he/they) 02:16, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
  • citations should be footnotes Instructions are at Help:Footnotes. It should take not more than 2 minutes to figure out. If there is a problem, ask at WP:TEAHOUSE or here.
  • unsourced content Simply delete all sentences which are not matched to citations. There are lots of claims in this article without fact-checking, and if something is going to main page, it needs the usual quality control process. Bluerasberry (talk) 22:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Honestly, I was negligent in checking. I was just watching this page. In special:diff/1118408910/1123341976 I see that the user addressed my two concerns about improper citations or lack of citations. They did good! I approve for what I checked. Bluerasberry (talk) 14:37, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
  • The overall tone of this article reads like an exposé, and thus fails WP:NPOV. Some sentences are blatantly non-neutral. The one that really stands out is This shows the dangerous background of the MI Complex and prioritizing profit over the safety and wellbeing of patients. CatherineGCC please don't take this personally, but I see you wrote on the talk page, "Hi all, I am beginning to work on this article for my Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course". Well, unfortunately, it reads like a position paper written for a Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities course. Which is great as a class assignment, but not so great as an encyclopedia article. I also see that you're a new editor here. That's great. No, it's wonderful. We need new talent working on the project. But please understand that neutrality is one of our core principles. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Given that the nom appears to have left wikipedia and the extensive amount of work that would be required to make this read neutrally, I'm marking this with a DYKno and suggest it be closed as rejected. I'll ping the nom on their talk page to make sure they're aware of the issues. It looks like this is a class project for Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Rice University/Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities, Section 1 (Fall 2022), so ping @DStrassmann and Ian (Wiki Ed): as well. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
    • RoySmith, I notice that the nominator has been active in the past week, communicating on the article talk page and editing the lede of the article. Does it seem possible that the article might progress to the point that it would be sufficiently neutral, or do you still think the only thing is to close it? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:06, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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