Template talk:2012 Major League Soccer season table
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Tie-break rules[edit]
In 2009 it was like this. Have they changed for 2012? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- This is what I found, though it also isn't updated for the new playoff format. Mathboy965 (talk) 14:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
CONCACAF Champions League[edit]
I just wanted you to know that I was the one who added the Toronto FC coding. --tychu9 (talk) 02:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC). I figured that if we have the US Open Cup we might as well have the Canadian Championship, since the MLS teams may play each other in the CCL. I am however asking for advice on whether the Canadian Championship color code should be the same color as the US Open Cup, since the Canadian Championship spot is for the current CCL while the US Open Cup and Supporters Shield spot is for the upcoming CCL.
As for the Supporters Shield code, I think it should just read 2013-14 CONCACAF Champions League Pot A. The note should read: "The Supporters Shield is awarded to the top ranked US based club...." I think it would just make it look cleaner. But since that wasn't my coding I don't want to touch someone else's work.
- Hey no point in including Canadian Championship. The MLS table has no impact on Canadian qualifiers, whereas it does have an impact on the CCL qualifiers for the US. That's why the US should be included but not Canada. Nlsanand (talk) 15:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
- The MLS table does impact the Canadian qualifiers, the Canadian championship seeding is dependent on the previous seasons finish. If it ended right now the 2013 Canadian championship seeding will be as follows; Montreal Impact, Vancouver Whitecaps, Toronto FC, Edmonton FC (NASL). If you are the original tables creator, just let me know (I won't fight about it). All I ask then is that you take this above statement into consideration. tychu9(talk) 2:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- The impact is different though. If the winner of the Lamar Hunt trophy also finished as the Supporters Shield winner (first place) then that CC position goes to the next American team in the table. In fact, if Montreal finishes first, with TFC and the Whitecaps finishing second and third respectively, and the fourth place team is the Lamar Hunt trophy winner, the fifth place team gets the champions league position. I reverted to include it a few times until I realized that the Canadian Championship doesn't matter, although it's nice to see. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- No worries then. I am aware of the whole MLS is for US seeding. It would be nice to see the supporters shield given to the fourth place team as well. It most likely won't be happening anytime soon, but how would they award the MLS cup and runner-up spots to the US if its an all Canadian final? Like I said before, no worries. My small case of OCD likes to fill sport tables up lol. I was rooting for Birmingham City to be relegated in 2011 just so they will get a relegated and Europa League mention. tychu9 (talk) 08:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- The impact is different though. If the winner of the Lamar Hunt trophy also finished as the Supporters Shield winner (first place) then that CC position goes to the next American team in the table. In fact, if Montreal finishes first, with TFC and the Whitecaps finishing second and third respectively, and the fourth place team is the Lamar Hunt trophy winner, the fifth place team gets the champions league position. I reverted to include it a few times until I realized that the Canadian Championship doesn't matter, although it's nice to see. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- The MLS table does impact the Canadian qualifiers, the Canadian championship seeding is dependent on the previous seasons finish. If it ended right now the 2013 Canadian championship seeding will be as follows; Montreal Impact, Vancouver Whitecaps, Toronto FC, Edmonton FC (NASL). If you are the original tables creator, just let me know (I won't fight about it). All I ask then is that you take this above statement into consideration. tychu9(talk) 2:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
playoff qualification[edit]
Given that the league wide table has no impact on playoffs, no point to mention here. Nlsanand (talk) 04:53, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking of including whether teams have been eliminated from Concacaf Champions League.
- I don't think you should, only because this table is for the 2012 MLS CONCACAF Champions League positions. The positions are for spots in the 2013-2014 CONCACAF competition and the games won't be played until the start of the 2013 MLS Season. It would make more sense to add the elimination notes for the 2013 MLS table. tychu9 (talk) 09:11, 21 October 2012
- Agree with Nlsanand on not listing playoff qualification but not with Champions League status. It's an anomaly that the MLS season coincides with the Champions League season so elimination from CL before the end of the MLS season is inconsequential to whether they qualified. In fact, I don't think we need the overall table as the material can be displayed in the conference tables. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:13, 22 October 2012 (UTC)