Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia talk:Access to nonpublic information

Edit request, 4 January 2017[edit]

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Please place the following edit notice on all pages in Category:Wikipedia information pages (or, equivalently, all pages with template {{information page}}):

Please note:

This is the talk page of an information page, meant to accurately reflect a consensus established by one or more policies or guidelines. This information page is not a policy or guideline itself. Consensus on policies and guidelines are established on the talk pages of those policies or guidelines, not here. Please use this talk page to discuss issues specific to this information page—issues related to the consensus described here should be raised on the talk page of the associated policy or guideline (typically identified at the top of the information page).

Thank you, —swpb^T 16:08, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: @Swpb: It would probably be best to have a discussion about this at WT:Project namespace, as the section this template links to is part of that guideline (i.e. Wikipedia:Project namespace#Wikipedia how-to and information pages). Furthermore, this would be better implemented as a template transclusion, so all the pages don't need edited if there is a desire to change the edit notice. — Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 19:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I meant for it to be transcluded. —swpb^T 19:53, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed the above request here; proposal has received no opposition after 7 days. Please implement. Thanks, —swpb^T 20:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This request is in the incorrect place. Creating Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:infotalk editintro (should be Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Template:Infotalk editintro) would create an editnotice for {{Infotalk editintro}}, which does not exist and is not the desired result. I will look into doing this later. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To editor JJMC89: I'll happily re-add the request in the right place if necessary, if you can tell me where that would be – the instructions on Wikipedia:Editnotice##Other_namespaces don't cover this scenario. —swpb^T 19:31, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Swpb: There isn't really a good place, so I just moved it to the talk page of one of the edit notices. I've deployed {{Wikipedia information pages talk page editnotice}} for the talk pages of the Wikipedia and Help pages in Category:Wikipedia information pages. If you would like it added to any others, let me know. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To editor JJMC89: Thanks! It looks like you manually deployed it on each page in the category; is there a way for it to automatically appear on new pages in that category, like {{Disambig editintro}} does on dab pages? —swpb^T 18:54, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Swpb: That requires Javascript (search for Magic editintros). Since this is for the talk pages instead of the pages that are in the category, I don't know if it is possible. @Enterprisey and MusikAnimal: Do you know if it possible? — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:04, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89, yes, it is possible. See script at User:Enterprisey/magic-talk-editnotices.js, which I just wrote. Seems to be working fine. Enterprisey (talk!) 20:32, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Enterprisey! It will also need to work for ns13 (Help talk). @Swpb: A modified version of Enterprisey's script could be added to MediaWiki:Common.js (You can propose it at MediaWiki talk:Common.js.) or as a (hidden?) gadget. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. (Apparently wgTitle works for Help talk pages, too - didn't know that.) Also, a gadget might be better, because we'd then have the option of disabling it. Enterprisey (talk!) 20:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey: It works for Help talk pages that have a corresponding Wikipedia page in the category but not the others (e.g. Help talk:Page name but not Help talk:Arabic). — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:46, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! You're right. Fixed. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:51, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey: I created a new info page (Wikipedia:Consensus dos and don'ts), and the notice doesn't appear on editing the talk page. Do I just need to wait for some cache somewhere to refresh, or is something not working? Thanks! —swpb^T 16:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

swpb, it's working for me - you could try clearing your cache. If that still doesn't work, try opening your console and telling me if a message that says "Detected that we're on the talk page of a page in Category:Wikipedia information pages." appears there. Hope this helps! Enterprisey (talk!) 19:24, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey:: No difference with refreshing cache, and I don't see that message in the console (tried Chrome, firefox, and IE). —swpb^T 19:52, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

swpb, oh, I see why. Your common.js file doesn't contain the script. You'll need to either get ScriptInstaller then hit the "Install" link at the top of my script, or just import User:Enterprisey/magic-talk-editnotices.js using importScript. Enterprisey (talk!) 19:39, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey: Oh, I thought you'd added to MediaWiki:Common.js so everyone would see it. Since no one objected to the original proposal, can we go ahead and do that? —swpb^T 19:59, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89, any thoughts? Enterprisey (talk!) 20:16, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any objections. You will need to propose it at the talk page. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:18, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Does it really need to go through another proposal waiting period? We're talking about enabling a behavior that was (I thought) implicit in the original template proposal, which went unopposed. —swpb^T 20:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An admin must add it. Enterprisey and I are not admins. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]