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Greenman (talk) 21:19, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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@Greenman I hope i sorted out all issues about in line citation. The sources added to all relevant information on the page. Work on the sorce of images is also underway. Thank you for consideration. Симпатизер

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (January 2)

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MurielMary (talk) 10:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis) (February 3)

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Rollidan (talk) 09:03, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hello Симпатизер. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Симпатизер. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Симпатизер|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 15:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Dear  Theroadislong,

You are mistaken – I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits, not at all.

All I wish is that a nice story about young and talented girl, an exemplary sportsman finds a place on Wikipedia.

I am a beginner with Wikipedia and I am very keen to follow and keep up to Wikipedia values and standard.

Best regards, Симпатизер (talk) 19:29, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis). Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 15:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis) (July 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Primefac was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Primefac (talk) 14:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Dear Primefac,

My aim was to provide absolutely accurate information and reliable and independent references. References listed below provide full coverage of subject and indicate their notability:

- Vujin, Vladimir (2010): The Sport Coryphaeus of the City of Novi Sad (in Serbian), Novi Sad, Serbia, Dnevnik Newspaper 2010, pp 77-79 ISBN 978-86-7966-017-6

- Farkas, Gizela (25 December 1969). "Training of the table tennis player". Olimpikon: 2.

- Popov Dusan (1997) Encyclopedia of the City of Novi Sad (in Serbian, Novi Sad, Serbia. Prometej Izdavacka kuca https://www.prometej.rs Platoneum part of SANU Serbian academy of Science and Art https://www.sanu.ac.rs pp Book 9 page 305 ISBN86-84097-23-8

- Uzorinec, Zdenko (1981). Od Sarajeva do Novog Sada [From Sarajevo to Novi Sad] (in Croatian). Zagreb, Croatia: Table Tennis Association of former Yugoslavia, Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr). p. 249.

Unfortunately these publications are not published on the Internet. The publications and all articles are from the time 1960-1970 when young lady made her achievements and when the Internet was not known. Also there may be other publication with coverage on the subject with the same issue, not visible on the Internet.

Best regards Симпатизер (talk) 09:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis) (October 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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MurielMary (talk) 08:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi MurielMary, I appreciate your comments on proposed article. I would like to say proposed article is about a young female table tennis player, one of the most talented European junior table tennis players at that time, time between 1960 and 1970. As you may understand, from that time in last century, when there were no electronic media, i.e., the internet and from a country, Former Yugoslavia, that no longer exist, there is not much information saved.

However, must say there is significant coverage about the mentioned table tennis player, this is shown specially in following resources:

1.    Vujin, Vladimir (2010). Sentimental Scrapbook, The Sport Coryphe of the City of Novi Sad (in Serbian). Novi Sad, Serbia: Dnevnik newspaper 2010 Novi Sad, Serbia. pp. 77–79. ISBN 978-86-7966-017-6.

Publication held at Archives of the city of Novi Sad

2.     Uzorinac, Zdenko (1978). 50 years of Table Tennis Association of Yugoslavia, 1928-1978 (in Croatian). Zagreb, Croatia: Published by Table Tennis Association of Former Yugoslavia, Printed by Graphic Institute of Croatia 1978. (gzh.hr). pp. 54, 126, 127, 130, 182, 183, 192, 193, 197, 198, 199, 207 & 209.

Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr)

3.    Uzorinac, Zdenko (1988). 60 Years of Table Tennis Association of Yugoslavia, 1928-1988 (in Slovenian). Ljubljana, Printed by PRINT GRAFIKA VECKO Ljubljana, 1988: Table Tennis Association of Slovenia. pp. 168, 232, 236, 241, 257, 258.

Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr)

18.  Popov, Dusan (1997). Encyclopedia of the City of Novi Sad (in Serbian). Novi Sad, Serbia: Prometej - Izdavačka kuća https://www.prometej.rs- Platoneum part of SANU Serbian Academy of Science and Art https://www.sanu.ac.rs/. pp. Book 9, page 305. ISBN 86-84097-23-8.

Publication held at Archives of the city of Novi Sad

19.  ^ Uzorinec, Zdenko (1981). Od Sarajeva do Novog Sada [From Sarajevo to Novi Sad]. Zagreb, Croatia: Table Tennis Association of former Yugoslavia,

Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr). p. 249.

All these sources are reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Apart from these there are many coverages in daily newspapers from the time as well.

It is correct, she didn’t win any European or World Championship, however she did very well on many international competitions.

And as a matter of fact, at that time Table Tennis was not a part of the Olympic Games. Obviously, in that view the circumstances were not favorable for Tatjana Jecmenica.

I would like to keep it up to Wikipedia high standard. I believe I did my best. I believe this article deserves to be approved and once the article is published on Wikipedia there may be more people to support it with additional information. Thank you for your consideration.

Faithfully, Симпатизер Симпатизер (talk) 10:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis) (October 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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MurielMary (talk) 09:19, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi MurielMary,

I must reiterate the proposed article is about a young female table tennis player, one of the most talented European junior table tennis player at time between 1960 and 1970. A nice story about young sportswoman that was unfortunate to have a short however successful and promising career. It is unfortunate then there were no electronic media, i.e. the internet and from a country, Former Yugoslavia, that no longer exist, there is not much information saved.

However, there are significant coverages about the mentioned table tennis player, this is shown specially in following resources:

1.    Vujin, Vladimir (2010). Sentimental Scrapbook, The Sport Coryphe of the City of Novi Sad (in Serbian). Novi Sad, Serbia: Dnevnik newspaper 2010 Novi Sad, Serbia. pp. 77–79. ISBN 978-86-7966-017-6.

Publication held at Arhives of the city of Novi Sad

2.     Uzorinac, Zdenko (1978). 50 years of Table Tennis Association of Yugoslavia, 1928-1978 (in Croatian). Zagreb, Croatia: Published by Table Tennis Association of Former Yugoslavia, Printed by Graphic Institute of Croatia 1978. (gzh.hr). pp. 54, 126, 127, 130, 182, 183, 192, 193, 197, 198, 199, 207 & 209.

Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr)

3.    Uzorinac, Zdenko (1988). 60 Years of Table Tennis Association of Yugoslavia, 1928-1988 (in Slovenian). Ljubljana, Printed by PRINT GRAFIKA VECKO Ljubljana, 1988: Table Tennis Association of Slovenia. pp. 168, 232, 236, 241, 257, 258.

Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr)

20.  Popov, Dusan (1997). Encyclopedia of the City of Novi Sad (in Serbian). Novi Sad, Serbia: Prometej - Izdavačka kuća https://www.prometej.rs- Platoneum part of SANU Serbian Academy of Science and Art https://www.sanu.ac.rs/. pp. Book 9, page 305. ISBN 86-84097-23-8.

Publication held at Arhives of the city of Novi Sad

21.   ^ Uzorinec, Zdenko (1981). Od Sarajeva do Novog Sada [From Sarajevo to Novi Sad]. Zagreb, Croatia: Table Tennis Association of former Yugoslavia,

Publication held at National and University Library in Zagreb (www.nsk.hr). p. 249.

All these sources are reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Apart from these there are many coverages in daily newspapers from the time as well.

She didn’t win any European or World Championship, however she did very well on many international competitions.

It is known, at that time Table Tennis was not a part of the Olympic Games. Obviously, in that view the circumstances were not favorable for Tatjana Jecmenica.

I believe this article deserves to be approved and trust once the article is on Wikipedia there shall be more people to support it with additional information. Thank you for your consideration.

Faithfully, Симпатизер Симпатизер (talk) 14:32, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis) (March 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:51, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer, I respect your opinion about the proposed article however must stress that you are misled by the title of proposed article and an existing article with the similar name.

Proposed article Tatjana Jecmenica (table tennis player) is about a young woman, born in 1949, one of the most talented and promising European woman table tennis player in period 1960-1970, about a sport career that abruptly ended at age 18.

The article, Tatjana Jecmenica, you suggest being merged is about another young woman, Tatjana Jecmenica, Tennis player, born in 1978.

Two sport personalities with same name however different sport and different age.

Please reconsider your decision and take into account that is very hard to provide more detailed results and get verified sources as period 1960-1970, was an era without the internet and without electronic media.

Once again, the proposed article Tatjana Jecmenica (table tennis player) is about a young, European most talented and promising table tennis player in period 1960-1970 in the last century.

Regards,

Спонзор Симпатизер (talk) 02:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis) has been accepted

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Primefac (talk) 20:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear Primefac

Thank you for approving the article Tatjana Ječmenica (table tennis). It is exciting to see the article on Wikipedia online. Also thank you for cleaning and adding the value to the article. I would like to thank to all your colleagues as well for valuable comments and suggestions. Must stress this has been an exciting learning time for me and again, thank you for all comments and contributions.

Kind regards, Симпатизер (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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