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DYK for Alexander Bonner Latta

On 7 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alexander Bonner Latta, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alexander Bonner Latta made the first steam fire engine to be used regularly by a city fire department in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alexander Bonner Latta. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alexander Bonner Latta), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:49, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello!

May I ask you that the article Lubi-Lubi check for deletion or not. Futurama fan2.0 (talk) 08:37, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Futurama fan2.0 I am confused by the article. This seems to be a folksong, maybe a dance, and also a festival.
  • "About this song, Lubi-Lubi". Performer: Mabuhay Singers Album: Lubi-Lubi & Other Waray Folksongs. HIMIG. 1973. Key Mode: C major Genre: Children's Songs Form: Balitaw Cultural Community: Samareño
  • "Lubi-Lubi Tagalog Months of the Year Song" – via YouTube."Lubi-Lubi Festival 2014 Street Dancing Competition Winners".
  • Supetran, Bernard (Oct 20, 2015). "The Glamour of Glan: Sarangani's Historical Town Sarangani". Choose Philippines.
  • Lubi-lubi festival
  • List of festivals in the Philippines Wikipedia
  • Lubi lubi Festival in Tagalog
I note also that there is a related Lubi-lubi article in the Philippine wikipedia. 7&6=thirteen () 15:09, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

thank you for the tips, I will look through them carefully

Wikitor007 (talk) 17:57, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikitor007 More like Wikipedia's tips. But you're welcome. And thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 18:45, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Mary Florence Potts

Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Florence Potts = a flaming red hot item!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:24, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

File:Aerzte-0005.gif Editor graduation
Thanks for the promotion nomination for Editor of the Week - it looks real good on my User Page Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:27, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
You should see the "second"s of the nomination. It was one of the last acts of Dr. B. 7&6=thirteen () 11:38, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
That brings tears to my eyes = good tears of joy and sad tears that Dr. B is gone.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the warm welcome! I'll do my best to ensure that Wikipedia is a congruent, correct, tidy, succint, and well-documented encyclopædia. Best, Alt3no (talk) 20:45, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Grace

On 19 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert Grace, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Robert Grace was the first manufacturer of the Pennsylvania fireplace, designed by Benjamin Franklin, which heated rooms more efficiently than an open fireplace? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Grace. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Robert Grace), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

RE:User_talk:Ukrainetz1#Take_a_deep_breath relaxed

RE:User_talk:Ukrainetz1#Take_a_deep_breath thank you good music..is relaxing... Ukrainetz1 (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Wawatam Lighthouse

On 20 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wawatam Lighthouse, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Wawatam Lighthouse (pictured) started out as an architectural folly at a highway Welcome Center, was moved more than 300 miles (480 km), and is now an operating Coast Guard-approved aid to navigation? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wawatam Lighthouse. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Wawatam Lighthouse), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this! Bigturtle (talk) 17:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Trivia

DYK that the phrase "7&6=thirteen" is a reminder of the geographic makeup of the early United States of America? When the United States came into being in 1776, there were seven states (NH, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, PA) north of the Mason-Dixon Line and six states (DL, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA) south of it. It is not, however, accurate to say that there were seven "free states" at the time, because many of the states north of the Mason-Dixon Line had slavery in 1776 as well. For example, the abolitionist Sojourner Truth was born a slave in upstate New York in or around 1797. Bigturtle (talk) 23:36, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations. A new implication to an old song. You made my day. Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 00:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


Obsessive, I am

cropped picture

I guess it was only a matter of time before I started this: Modern Gothic cabinet (Metropolitan Museum of Art).
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:21, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the additions! Robert Edwards thought the MMA cabinet was an absurd object, though expertly carved. Somewhere (I haven't found it again yet), he dismissed it as a "circus wagon." But why can't furniture be fun?
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 12:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
I will tweak the citations to WP:SFN format and nominate it for a WP:DYK. Do you have a hook suggestion? 7&6=thirteen ()
Wow. Okay. How about: "Funky Modern Gothic cabinet (Metropolitan Museum of Art) is a virtuoso piece of American carving."
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:05, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
"the funky Modern Gothic cabinet (pictured) is a virtuoso piece of American carving?" 7&6=thirteen () 13:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Maybe not pictured. I want to get the page views up. What do you think User:Doug Coldwell? 7&6=thirteen () 13:12, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
"The Met's funky Modern Gothic cabinet is a virtuoso piece of American carving"?
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:16, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Detail

Excellent! tweaked it. 7&6=thirteen () 13:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Do you want to use the image of the shelf?
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't know. I did nominate it. Let's wait for User:Doug Coldwell's input. 7&6=thirteen () 13:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I cropped the picture and to me it looks good and should be part of the hook as (pictured) IMO.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:42, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Will do. 7&6=thirteen () 13:50, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
To get the views up = right after it has been approved, then add a comment for the Promoter Can this be put as #1 in the queue. Thanks. - it works about 70% of the time and if you get #1 in the queue you have the highest chance for the most views. This would be a prime example and will have a good chance of being placed #1 in queue.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:53, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Would you please tweak the nomination to fix the picture. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 13:55, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
That's pretty technical AFTER the nomination has been made = so I asked for help.
Here are a few hints for improvements for nominating the article, that may need to be done -
1) Do not use the citation template. - ONLY use the exact reference words that cover the hook, NOT the citation template.
2) Instead use the wording that supports the hook - as that of 1 sentence line from pp. 142, 146-47, 460-6 of the Source book = something to the effect that it is a virtuoso piece of American carving.
3) Where is that reference in the article? Is it quoted in the Sources? As a potential reviewer I can not find where it is referenced in the article.
--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

BoringHistoryGuy we need to address Doug Coldwell query. 7&6=thirteen () 14:53, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Would this work?
Alternate: "The Met's funky Modern Gothic cabinet is among the finest examples of the style in America."*
  • Source: Alice Cooney Frelinghuysen, "Cabinet," Recent Acquistions: A Selection, 1985-1986. Metropolitan Museum of Art. 1986. p. 53.[1]
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Added to nomination. 7&6=thirteen () 15:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Need the EXACT wording - as on page 53 (what are those words? How far down on the page is it?)--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:26, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Doug Coldwell. The last line of the page says: "The collaboration between Furness and Pabst resulted in some of the finest examples of the Modern Gothic style in America." Is that close enough?
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:36, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
@BoringHistoryGuy: I put those words as the words for covering the reference for the hook into the nomination. It's up to the reviewer if that is adequate.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
@BoringHistoryGuy: Where is that in the article itself?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell:. I added it here: Modern Gothic cabinet (Metropolitan Museum of Art)#Scholarship == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:44, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • @BoringHistoryGuy: Likely the hook will have to be something more hooky (catchy); as it needs something to get a person's attention. Perhaps something unusual - ... that the Modern Gothic cabinet is a piece of furniture displayed at the Metropolitan Museum of Art that is reminiscent of historic nineteenth-century Philadelphia bank buildings?
Suggest also to remove the large quote and put it to a sentence prose (then reference it).
Suggest also for NO references in the lead - have the same (or similar) information in the body and references to it = is all that is necessary for references for the lead. There should be NO references in the lead parts.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell:. Thanks, but I think the article's name should be reverted. I can think of a half-dozen other Modern Gothic cabinets by Pabst, including 3 in museums, and there are dozens by Kimbel and Cabus (although undistinguished). In 2015 the Met bought a famous cabinet by Talbert for close to half a mil,[2] although that would be categorized as Reformed Gothic.
Some things that make this cabinet special include its mammoth size -- 8 feet vs. 5 feet or less for the others; the virtuosity and variety of the carving; and its eye-popping polychromy. It's the gaudiest piece I know of by Pabst. Robert Edwards, who preferred Pabst's more subdued furniture, labeled it a circus wagon. Unfortunately that quote is now gone from his website or I'd have included it, and Edwards died in June 2014.
I'll take the references out of the lede and revert the name.
P.S. It's not the roof that relates to the banks. It's the brackets and massing.
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
O.K. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell:. "The Met's funky Modern Gothic cabinet may have been inspired by Philadelphia bank buildings." ?
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Yup! --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:40, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Eli Parsons Royce

On 28 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eli Parsons Royce, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eli Parsons Royce founded the city of Escanaba, Michigan, while Nelson Ludington named it? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Eli Parsons Royce), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Nelson Ludington

On 28 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nelson Ludington, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eli Parsons Royce founded the city of Escanaba, Michigan, while Nelson Ludington named it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nelson Ludington. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nelson Ludington), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Florence Potts

On 31 May 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Florence Potts, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mary Florence Potts patented various styles of cold-handle clothes irons that were the most popular irons ever used? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Florence Potts. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mary Florence Potts), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

"After the Battle" reference

Hi! Thanks for your edits on Battle of Bamber Bridge. I've reverted your edit changing the "After the Battle" ref - it's a magazine, not a book, which means that a lot of the Google Books data is wrong. Winston Ramsey is the editor of the magazine, but he didn't write the article that I'm citing. Smurrayinchester 07:12, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Understood. 7&6=thirteen () 13:25, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK - Biswa Ranjan Nag

Hi mate, I have suggested an alternative hook at Template:Did you know nominations/Biswa Ranjan Nag. Please check and advise. --jojo@nthony (talk) 16:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Give it a Thumbs up icon 7&6=thirteen () 18:14, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Albert P. Halfhill

On 7 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Albert P. Halfhill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Albert P. Halfhill is considered the father of the tuna packing industry and was the first to use the slogan "chicken of the sea" as a sales gimmick? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Albert P. Halfhill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Albert P. Halfhill), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:04, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing !

Thanks for noticing Midas Touch (Trump Kiyosaki book) ! What do you think of the article? Sagecandor (talk) 14:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Hard for me to separate the article from the authors and their politics and real world business practices. Which largely goes unmentioned. Good luck with it. 7&6=thirteen () 14:43, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, if you feel that way, you might enjoy reading another article I wrote from scratch, The Case for Impeachment ? Sagecandor (talk) 14:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I am amazed that this book is out there and so au courant, given the raging river that swirls around. Seems like a well-developed article. 7&6=thirteen () 15:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you ! You might also like The Plot to Hack America ? Sagecandor (talk) 15:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I am appalled at this. What a waste of time.
I personally encountered lots of disiniformatzia in Wikipedia editing. See. e.g., Maskirovka. 7&6=thirteen () 15:14, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Like what? Sagecandor (talk) 16:59, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

This occurred in the context of the Crimean self defense action. Little green men, 'volunteers.' And Shooting down a Malaysian jetliner. No Maskirovka there! Just standard military deception, which is indistinguishable from NATO and U.S. military doctrine. The edit warring went on for longer than I could stand. 7&6=thirteen () 18:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Lest there be a misunderstanding, irony does not necessarily come through a keyboard very well. 7&6=thirteen () 19:14, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Ohh, there were accounts claiming it was only little green men? Sagecandor (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Volunteers. Little green men (Ukrainian crisis) Etc. Some wikiwars are not worth fighting over. It's a big encyclopedia. 7&6=thirteen () 23:03, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
New article you might like, Insane Clown President. Sagecandor (talk) 18:15, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Good article. Made some minor copy edits.
Did you watch Idiocracy. I recommend it. Although it's setting is like 200 years too late. 7&6=thirteen () 14:44, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes I love that film. House of Representin. Now I understand everyone's shit's emotional right now. LOL. Sagecandor (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

New page created, Time to Get Tough. Sagecandor (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Time to Get Tough

No idea how to properly ping your username.

Thanks for the DYK review.

Can you have another look at Template:Did you know nominations/Time to Get Tough ? Sagecandor (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Cut down significantly on all quotes used. You can use ALT1. Can you re-review? Sagecandor (talk) 17:53, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Check out new Earwig, dropped from 65% to 6.5%. That's a significant change, yes? Thank you for your review and your helpful suggestions. Sagecandor (talk) 17:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Thumbs up icon 7&6=thirteen () 20:05, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Sagecandor (talk) 03:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

I removed your addition because it was unsourced and trivial. Just notifying. Thanks.--Beachey23 (talk) 17:25, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

The above user blocked per this sock case.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
I reverted. And duly noted. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 17:06, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Dimitri Navachine

On 20 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dimitri Navachine, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dimitri Navachine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dimitri Navachine), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--IronGargoyle (talk) 19:51, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK for How I Met Your Music

On 23 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article How I Met Your Music, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the first soundtrack album from How I Met Your Mother, titled How I Met Your Music, was originally released only through iTunes because the creators considered CDs to be "too 1992"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, How I Met Your Music), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

IronGargoyle (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Chris Bertish

On 25 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chris Bertish, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chris Bertish. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Chris Bertish), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 23:35, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Your citations background

From my various talk page readings, I noticed your name occasionally mentioned as being good at article citations and formatting. Recently, the biography for Akira Kurosawa was promoted to GA and I was told that there may be problems with cite format consistency in the article. Could you take a look at the article at some point in time and possibly give me some idea of the simplest approach to updates or repairs if needed. JohnWickTwo (talk) 04:33, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Citations looked very good. I tweaked it, and wikified the publishers. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 13:59, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Modern Gothic cabinet

On 3 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Modern Gothic cabinet, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Modern Gothic cabinet (pictured) is considered one of the finest American examples of the style? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Modern Gothic cabinet), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

Hello, 7&6=thirteen.

I noticed you've done some constructive editing recently.
Would you please consider becoming New Page Reviewer? Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies, currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After gaining the flag, patrolling is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. Thanks.—usernamekiran(talk) 12:11, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

This is both: a pun, and serious invitation. I was checking the template in talk sandbox, and you saw it. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:14, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sandbox

YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M NOT ALLOW TO EDIT ANYTHING AT ALL FOR Wikipedia:Sandbox.

No. But there are rules even there. Get an account. Create a sandbox under your own name and have at it. After your first dozen edits you are becoming a pest.
And please sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes ~~~~ 7&6=thirteen () 19:19, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Misuse of the sandbox 7&6=thirteen () 02:10, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

Appreciate the torte... Article creation, citations, etc. are not strengths of mine, so I also appreciate the improvements/additions you made to Earle Sr.'s article :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:16, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome.
George Hussey Earle, Sr. is an interesting character.
We all have our strengths and weaknesses. It's a learning experience. 17:47, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Agreed (on both points). Earle's daughter, Florence Earle Coates, is of primary interest to me. I wish more was available on the whole family. Recent information that was presented to me on the Dangerfield case gave me the "notability" ingredient necessary to create Earle, Sr.'s article. I have read on a couple occasions of Earle's fiery speeches... would that they were available!
Is it me or do you also see the Contents box on Earle, Sr.'s page appearing below his bio? Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)  Done

Mark Zuckerberg and Mercy College (New York)

Does taking one course while he was in HS make him an alumni? Here's a reference[3] If it was just one course it sounds silly IMHO...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:07, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

...William the roof? You have a point, if you are correct. The New Yorker source says: "Soon thereafter, Mark started taking a graduate computer course every Thursday night at nearby Mercy College. When his father dropped him off at the first class, the instructor looked at Edward and said, pointing to Mark, “You can’t bring him to the classroom with you.” Edward told the instructor that his son was the student."
Not clear that this was the only course he took there. If so, then it could be so noted. 7&6=thirteen () 18:27, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Vargas, Jose Antonio (September 20, 2010). "The Face of Facebook: Mark Zuckerberg Opens Up". The New Yorker. Retrieved July 18, 2017. 7&6=thirteen () 14:55, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Added a clarifying note that should resolve the matter (for now). Also alpha sorted and moved him to the end of the list. Where he belongs. 7&6=thirteen () 15:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Question

Knowing your good work reviewing GAs, I was wondering if you wanted to take on Charmayne James? It's an easy read - pretty interesting as far as rodeo and barrel racing goes. Atsme📞📧 23:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

What is the format for pinging your user name? Atsme📞📧 15:12, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

7%266%3Dthirteen <-- did that work?

Atsme, the correct syntax to get pings to work for him is {{ping|1=7&6=thirteen}} where the 1= is needed before the name. That won't work on his own talk page though...everywhere else it will work.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:37, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK for SS John Sherman

On 5 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SS John Sherman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cargo had to be loaded and unloaded by hand onto the SS John Sherman, the first freight ship used on Lake Michigan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SS John Sherman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, SS John Sherman), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Ongoing discussion FYI. 7&6=thirteen () 03:45, 13 August 2017 (UTC)


Timbo's Rule No. 14Whenever you see multiple stacked footnotes in a lead to document a subject phrase as encyclopedic, it probably isn't. (March 2012)
"The Michigan AuSable Valley Railroad is a 16-inch-gauge (410 mm), 1/4-scale ridable miniature railway, located in Fairview, Michigan. The railroad runs through the scenic Huron National Forest and the Comins Creek Valley.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]''
Best regards, —tim /// Carrite (talk) 05:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Given the nature of the railroading travel guides (these are most of them), what else would one expect them to say? It exists and they report it. Just sayin' ... Best to you, too. 7&6=thirteen () 10:59, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Timbos rule No. 14 is too broad, it fails to note when a subject phrase is encyclopedic, but a minority of editors think it isn't, and other editors try in vain to change their mind. (by adding lots of references). A Guy into Books (talk) 15:05, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

A Guy into Books, I added the sources that one would expect for a miniature railroad. And they exist. Also added links. Given the relatively obscure location (it's way off 'the beaten track') it got a surpassing amount of mention in the expected WP:RS. I also added some really good links and upgraded the article to the extent the sources permit.
Even Carrite changed his vote. Thanks.
FWIW, the discussion was closed as "an obvious keep." So upgrading the article and the sourcing was an efficacious strategy. 7&6=thirteen () 15:17, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
I might add as a personal note that I took my grandchildren there, and we all thought the experience was fun and worthwhile. I hope the property sells and the operation continues. I expect that there may be some additional sources that will appear in the near future. If they do, I will try to add them. 7&6=thirteen () 15:19, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

I actually have a similar railway near me Launceston Steam Railway, so some interest for me. The article is undoubtedly notable now. on an unrelated note, i noticed your butterfly and added 'some' to my page, i might get rid of them again but its great fun :) A Guy into Books (talk) 15:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for lending me your legal template. {:>{)> 7&6=thirteen () 15:47, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
FWIW, I appropriated the butterfly from another user, who was duly credited at the time. NIH. 7&6=thirteen () 22:21, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Howard B. Meek

Hello! Your submission of Howard B. Meek at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Revision of addition

Thank You. I am pretty sure I clicked "New section" button and still I reverted all sections. And I even didn't notice it. It's a shame, I edit Wikipedia since 2008, so it shouldn't happened. Thanks again! --Pedros.lol (talk) 18:01, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

No worries. Shit happens! We all make mistakes, but I saw you were an experienced editor, and we need to keep you. Best. 7&6=thirteen () 18:07, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Redlink

I might have asked you before (memory of a very elderly goldfish and all that) but why is this a redlink? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:54, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't know if you asked me before. I am not in opposition to it.
  1. It looks like a lot of responsibility to me. I've thought about it, but to me it would be a commitment. I recognize it is a service to the Wikipedia project/community and I would not want to disappoint those who might entrust me with power, which should be exercised with restraint. And of course, there are volumes that I don't know about being an admin, so my areas would necessarily be circumscribed.
  2. My interest has historically been content creation. With some wiki mopping on occasion. I have created articles that I knew about or caught my fancy. I have been involved (periodically) in article rescue, which is something I like to do.
  3. I would guess that some will find nits to pick on any nomination. E.g., not enough AFD participation.
  4. I am a mere WP:Wikignome.
  5. And I have been cutting back on my edits and wikitime. It is an addiction.
  6. I also think that after 100K edits it would be opening a Pandora's box for my critics. I don't want to be Joan of Arc on the pyre, even if I would be the guest of honor.
So thank you for thinking of me. 7&6=thirteen () 15:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Some responses, respective to your bullets:

  • That is a great perspective and one that will go down well at RfA. No-one enters RfA an expert in all admin areas. Humility is good. What we want is people who respect policy, know where to find it, and follow it. And restraint is much valued.
  • RfA loves content creators. You're here to build the 'pedia. We're a bit odd. We don't like candidates who frequent the drama boards, but we do like a bit of a track record in some kinds of adminny areas (eg CSD / AfD) so we can see if you can follow policy
  • See User:Dweller/Tips_for_aspiring_future_admins#Wikignomes
  • There's no limit on the number of admins, so if you're not going to use the tools 1000 times a day, it's no loss to us if we give you the tools. You're not depriving someone else of them
  • That is the biggest problem. RfA can be harsh. If you don't like what you're hearing, you can withdraw.

Read the tips essay I linked in my bullets and see what you think.

And my first question will be what disputes you've had in the past. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:39, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Circular referencing?

I'd love to see the article kept, but that source says it's "from Wikipedia". --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:37, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Surami Synagogue Okay. Got it. 7&6=thirteen () 14:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Sorry. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:44, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
I think I solved the problem. Added references. It will be deleted when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
Or when there is a consensus in support, which I do not foresee. 7&6=thirteen () 19:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Howard B. Meek

On 27 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Howard B. Meek, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Howard B. Meek was the founder and dean of the first college to train professional hotel managers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Howard B. Meek. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Howard B. Meek), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 00:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for S 9 (Abydos)

I can't manage to ping you and neither the ping, nor the reply to nor the u templates work with your user name! Anyway I wanted to let you know that I have done my QPQ for DYK on S 9 (Abydos), having reviewed this article. Iry-Hor (talk) 07:49, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yunnan hare

Hello! Your submission of Yunnan hare at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Addressed your concerns. Thanks for the prompt rereview! 7&6=thirteen () 14:45, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Yunnan hare

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Yunnan hare you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 23:01, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Yunnan hare

The article Yunnan hare you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Yunnan hare for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dunkleosteus77 -- Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 01:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Mountain dog

An article that you have been involved in editing—Mountain dog —has been proposed for merging with Molosser. If you are interested, please follow the (Discuss) link at the top of the article to participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 02:45, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
I am honored to work with you! It was an awesome experience. Adityavagarwal (talk) 03:24, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Great result of a mutual effort. 7&6=thirteen () 11:54, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Greetings, arithmetically correct editor! I like most of the changes you have made to Organic mineral, but I'm wondering whether it was really necessary to split References into two parts. After all, there are only 10 sources. Using {{harv}} makes sense if you're citing different parts of the same work, but here it just seems to add complexity with no benefit. RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 23:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry - I should have read the article talk page first. RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 23:39, 8 September 2017 (UTC==)
Replied on the article talk page. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 01:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your continuous, assiduous work on DYKs! You are an asset to Wikipedia. Adityavagarwal (talk) 13:18, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Harvard Errors

Only four authors per SFN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ucucha/HarvErrors 7&6=thirteen () 18:47, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I've placed an inquiry at the WP:Help desk. 7&6=thirteen () 20:44, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Yunnan hare

On 23 September 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yunnan hare, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Yunnan hare was formerly considered a subspecies of the woolly hare but is now treated as a separate species? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yunnan hare. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Yunnan hare), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (talk) 12:03, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Pass A L'Outre Light

On 24 September 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pass A L'Outre Light, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the Pass A L'Outre Light began to sink into the ground, its floor was raised and a new door cut in its side to compensate? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pass A L'Outre Light. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pass A L'Outre Light), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Glover's pika

On 25 September 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Glover's pika, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Glover's pika was at different times treated as a subspecies of the Turkestan red pika and the Chinese red pika, but is now accepted as an independent species? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Glover's pika. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Glover's pika), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (talk) 12:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Working on GA review. Needs a picture, if you can find one. I've looked to no avail. 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Yarkand hare on FLICKR. 7&6=thirteen () 15:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK

Thanks for your DYK help regarding Tajama Abraham. When looking at the options I chose BLP because, well, because it's a BLP, but I just now noticed that the BLP choice only applies if the BLP was unsourced. I just double checked and it did have one source when I started working on it.

However, it only had 57 words of text when I started working on it so I assume it easily meets the fivefold requirement. Should I change anything? (As an aside, I've reached out to her employer to see if I can arrange for a photo but don't know when or if that will happen.)--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I think it was so minimally sourced that your edits are within the spirit of the rule, if not its letter. Without actually calculating it, my gut feeling was you were over the 5X expansion. Suggest you use the tools (particularly Earwig) to make sure there is no "close paraphrasing" or copy violation issues. The former rule can be a real trap for the unwary. Take a look at the DYK history of Bill Smith (fell runner). If you are not cognizant of it, the "close paraphrasing" accusation is really problematical. They don't just look at the words, but can look at the structure of sentences, paragraphs or the article. Very amorphous, almost no standard, and if they want to get you they can open up a never ending C.F. of messing with you. I am not saying that any of this applies to your article, but forewarned is forearmed. Another man trap is the standards for the hook. In addition to the length restriction, it is supposed to be interesting and supported by in line (and preferably on line) cited sources. Sometimes they want the literal words (in haec verba) to be in the citation. Of course, they are are there and in your hook, there is a possibility that somebody will say your hook is too close to the language. It helps to look at DYK, and the DYK talk page. Particularly the older nominations that get hung up forever, or the ones that are pulled from the DYK prep queue. See for example, Template:Did you know nominations/Animal husbandry. Damned if you do; damned if you don't. 'Hookiness' is a supposed virtue, but if it is too clever then they will say you've gone beyond the source. "Interesting" is in the eye of the beholder It is no wonder that a lot of editors shy away from DYK. I did for years, even as I crated a bunch of articles that were worthy at the time. There is also a contrary school of thought that the best sources are those that are off line. Using books that are not in google books means that the reviewer may have to take your word for it, WP:AGF. Another way to get into this is to look at the work of some of the most productive DYKer. Go to the list of them. Somebody like User:Doug Coldwell will be happy to school you. good luck, 7&6=thirteen () 21:35, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics and Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs 7&6=thirteen () 21:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
  • @Sphilbrick: I like the idea of working out a potential DYK article in a sandbox draft first - then it doesn't start the "DYK clock".--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:05, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice from both if you. It will be truly embarrassing if I end up getting dinged for a close paraphrase, as I spend the first hour of every day doing copyright review at Copypatrol. For Doug, typically use a sandbox when I'm working on a red link. See for example, User:Sphilbrick/sandbox_Brittany_Hunter which has a long way to go, but I haven't tended to use a sandbox when expanding an existing article. The DYK wasn't the initial impetus. I started going through List of Women's National Basketball Association players, adding historical statistics and cleaning up references. As I was going through, I saw some articles that look like they can use little expansion so you get to the end I started over and decided to expand some articles if possible. When I got to Tajama Abraham, my initial intention was to clean up some of the references, but the more I read about her the more I thought it ought to be developed into a proper article. When I read about her hiding out in a commercial refrigerator from Hugo, I thought that sounded like a decent hook (many of the hooks are a bit strained, this one seemed very natural), so I decided to nominate for DYK. I see that the procedures have changed since last time I did one. This seems generally for the better, asking for the supporting citation, but the instructions are still a little confusing for someone who's not a regular in that area.
I'll probably simply return to modest additions to existing articles, but if I see a very short article that could use a significant expansion of consider doing it first in a sandbox.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:01, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
As the Bill Smith (fell runner) illustrates, you can paraphrase like crazy, but if you have enough citations there may be some unintentional and unavoidable overlap. And it costs almost nothing to accuse someone of 'close paraphrasing,' even if it is just imagined. 14:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
  • @Sphilbrick: I like the idea of always making a DYK article - it gave me extra motivation to produce a quality article, so it would pass the DYK nomination. It turns out that over an 11 year period of producing articles that 98% became a DYK. I always had the hook FIRST and then made the article. All these books are just a fraction of the books I have used in research. My main source for finding a good potential DYK article was Famous First Facts. I would just thumb through the book until I found something interesting, then check to see if there was not already an article on the item - I had thousands of possibilities and made hundreds of DYKs this way.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:40, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Congrats on such a high ratio. One of the nice things about contributing to Wikipedia is that one can have different motivations or interest and still find plenty to do. Some people are interested in high-quality pros and just about any subject, some are happy with more mundane pros but have particular subject areas of interest, some delight in cleaning up exceedingly tiny grammatical issues and it all works. My particular interest is in women's basketball, for which there are many red links and many stub or start articles, so I can work on getting basic information in while leaving GA or FA to others. I'm not familiar with that book although it sounds quite interesting, and obviously well-suited to DYK. Can see the table of contents but can't quite see the subject index, so I don't know whether there's an easy way to search for women's basketball. I do see that it has the first basketball game played video women's college but I've written about that. If there are any others, and you'd like someone to collaborate with, let me know. (sorry thirteen for hijacking your page )--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
  • @Sphilbrick: Thanks. I happen to have a PDF on the FIFTH EDITION and it is searchable with one word at a time (i.e. basketball, woman, sports). Send me an e-mail and I will give you the 4 MB file. I'm going to semi-retire now, since I have achieved the 500 mark. I am doing personal things. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Your diligence in keeping a professional source format is extraordinary! You do a really commendable work, and I guess even this barnstar may not be able to serve an accolade for your awesome work! Adityavagarwal (talk) 05:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. It helps to have a wp:GA to begin with. 7&6=thirteen () 11:33, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Great job on Alpine Pika

I saw that you are working on Alpine Pika and want to see it get to FA. First the article looks fantastic. Even the layout is excellent. I have access to the University of Pittsburgh Library system online and so if you need any refs from this database let me know. Also I left a note on the article talk page about adding a link to wikidata. Have you taken a look at this article in the different languages? I am not sure you need to do this, but sometimes another language has additional refs that we don't have on the en:Wikipedia. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   17:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. Will keep that in mind. 7&6=thirteen () 18:07, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on making it to today's listing on the "Did You Know..." section of Wikipedia Main Page. The process of making it the listing takes a bit of effort and involves the quick cooperation of many editors. All involved deserve recognition, appreciation, thanks and applause.

Best Regards,
  Bfpage |leave a message  14:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. FWIW, I piloted it very quickly through the DYK process (knowing which strings to pull is key), and did a large # of edits to it. It is (opinion) a quality product and addition to our encyclopedia. But it was a collaborative effort, and all involved deserve a big hand. 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
It was one of the easiest articles to write and steer through DYK :) The article I QPQed, Luxembourg Freeport, is of far more relevance to our queer and terrible qualms, and redolent of the dark symbolism that characterises the way we live now. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
You are entitled to your opinion. Doing all this in a matter of days was out of the ordinary. Meanwhile, Luxembourg Freeport still sits in a queue, and it was started well before this article. Not that comparisons like this are relevant. 7&6=thirteen () 22:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Mega soz, I think I was briefly mindless when I wrote that. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:14, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

We all have bad days. No worries. 7&6=thirteen () 23:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

What a great article! I hope authors will consider nominating this for good status once they feel it meets criteria. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:00, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Addition to bottom of Article Rescue Squadron rescue list

Hello @7&6=thirteen: Thanks for participating in the Article Rescue Squadron (ARS)! I've moved your new entry for Fit in or fuck off from the bottom of the ARS rescue list to the top of the list. On the ARS rescue list, new entries are normally created at the top of the list, not at the bottom as for most talk pages.

Syrenka V (talk) 04:46, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hyrum Rex Lee

Hello! Your submission of Hyrum Rex Lee at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk 11:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

 Fixed 7&6=thirteen () 11:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi, 7&6! I hope you are doing great. In the DYK for the Barred cuckoo-dove, a point was raised that the refs 2 and 5 were erroneous. Upon clicking them, they do not go to the original text. Could you fixed that (perhaps when you were formatting the refs, they might have gone, and i do not know how to format the refs as you do!)? Thanks, and have a great day! Adityavagarwal (talk) 06:33, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Links are fine and correct. They work for me and go to the original text. As to references 2 and 5, SFN does not link to the book citations in the bibliography because they have more than four authors Nevertheless, the citation is to the work and the links to the page go where they are supposed to go. 7&6=thirteen () 20:59, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for H. Rex Lee

On 14 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article H. Rex Lee, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that H. Rex Lee was the last non-elected Governor of American Samoa? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, H. Rex Lee), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 01:18, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

For the record Statue of Edward Snowden Congratulations

Congratulations on making it to today's listing on the "Did You Know..." section of Wikipedia Main Page. The process of making it the listing takes a bit of effort and involves the quick cooperation of many editors. All involved deserve recognition, appreciation, thanks and applause.

Best Regards,
  Bfpage |leave a message  14:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. FWIW, I piloted it very quickly through the DYK process (knowing which strings to pull is key), and did a large # of edits to it. It is (opinion) a quality product and addition to our encyclopedia. But it was a collaborative effort, and all involved deserve a big hand. 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
It was one of the easiest articles to write and steer through DYK :) The article I QPQed, Luxembourg Freeport, is of far more relevance to our queer and terrible qualms, and redolent of the dark symbolism that characterises the way we live now. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
You are entitled to your opinion. Doing all this in a matter of days was out of the ordinary. Meanwhile, Luxembourg Freeport still sits in a queue, and it was started well before this article. Not that comparisons like this are relevant. 7&6=thirteen () 22:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Mega soz, I think I was briefly mindless when I wrote that. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:14, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

We all have bad days. No worries. 7&6=thirteen () 23:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

What a great article! I hope authors will consider nominating this for good status once they feel it meets criteria. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:00, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas's pika

On 6 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas's pika, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Thomas's pika is sympatric with the Gansu pika? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas's pika. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thomas's pika), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk 03:17, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Barred cuckoo-dove

On 16 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Barred cuckoo-dove, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the barred cuckoo-dove is similar to the little cuckoo-dove, but is larger and darker, and is black-barred at the mantle, breast, covert, and tail? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barred cuckoo-dove. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Barred cuckoo-dove), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:47, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Credit, where credit is due

The Citation Barnstar The Citation Barnstar
You are the one who genuinely deserves credit for adding a citation where one was needed. Kudos for all of your work at DYK and elsewhere, as well as for stepping in at Petoskey, Michigan to add the content *and* the requisite source. Alansohn (talk) 14:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Re User:EnroShirts User talk:EnroShirts

Hello, I wanted to tell you that UAA prefers that an inappropriate username either be reported or discussed with the user, but not both at the same time. I think they care less when one person tries to discuss it(as I did) and a different one reports it, as that person might not have seen the talk page first, but if the reporter discusses it with the user and makes a report, they usually hold off for a few days to see if the discussion goes anywhere. Just some friendly tips. 331dot (talk) 21:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

I noted that on the report. I also notified the user. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 21:58, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

WP:CLEAN

Hello 7&6=thirteen:
You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Wikipedia cleanup listings, information and discussion.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. North America1000 09:30, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

A metric to warm your heart and sustain your editing

{{notice|{{Graph:PageViews|365}}|heading=Daily page views |center=y |image=Open data small color.png}} I've been putting that on some of the talk pages of articles I've worked on. Gives you a feel for the utility of your efforts. 7&6=thirteen () 21:23, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Or 90 days {{right|Page views - 90 days<br>{{Graph:PageViews|90}}}} 7&6=thirteen () 13:47, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Thank you. And Thank you too. 7&6=thirteen () 13:55, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Operator error and GIGO. Computers have made me faster; they have not made me more accurate. Best wishes. 7&6=thirteen () 17:52, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
By they way, forgive my understanding capability, but I was not able to understand your last comment... :P Adityavagarwal (talk) 15:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

The people who remind you of the Streisand effect effect... Edaham (talk) 16:08, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

OK. I did not take a moral position.
I always invoke WP:REVDEL through friendly admins. And it seems to work. 7&6=thirteen () 16:16, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
that's properly useful! Thanks! ....Now if only I knew some friendly admins :D Edaham (talk) 16:19, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome. Just e-mail them. No bull. There's lots of stuff that needs it, and it happens everyday. Works way better and faster than contacting the Wikipedia foundation, in my experience. 7&6=thirteen () 16:24, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

GA 7&6=thirteen () 15:05, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

FA 7&6=thirteen () 16:07, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for SS Clifton

On 31 October 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SS Clifton, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the whaleback SS Clifton disappeared for over 90 years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SS Clifton. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, SS Clifton), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Pageviews: 21,474 Daily average: 1,952 7&6=thirteen () 16:08, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Statistics Need to put this in the statistics 7&6=thirteen () 16:13, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
7&6=thirteen () 16:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Non-lead hooks with at least 15K and #1 for October. 7&6=thirteen () 17:00, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I had not realized

until just now that Cub Koda had died in 2000, or at all. Another son of Michigan gone. I need to look into his tribute to Nolan Strong, I am a big fan of him. Them. Carptrash (talk) 19:54, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I truly love Random Drug Test, and have used it in my classes. 7&6=thirteen () 19:57, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Surreal Barnstar
Your exceptional guidance in making me a better editor is very commendable. I have learnt a lot from you, mostly on source formatting. Thank you very much for your help! Adityavagarwal (talk) 07:05, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Well thanks very much. "Give a man a fish..." etc. There are wiki mentors out there who taught me. I owe them still. 7&6=thirteen () 12:43, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

I have begun working on the SS Andaste article, and expect to continue with a description of the vessel's final sailing and disappearance. The article will do better with an upgrade, but I would not expect the upgrade to elicit the dramatic praise from the Wikipedia community that was enjoyed by the SS Clifton article. Rediscovery of the Clifton's hull generated many additional data points relevant to that boat's loss, but the hull of the Andaste has not yet been found. Bigturtle (talk) 22:54, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Our problem is that incremental rewrites will just compound the 5X problem and 7 day limitation for DYK. If improvements are made over a number of days exceeding 7, the size of the article grows and it is then 'chasing pots of gold at the end of the rainbow.' But the article is worth upgrading, even still. I'll be happy to help. 7&6=thirteen () 00:08, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Hayden, Jim (May 11, 2010). "Search for ship, Andaste, that went down in 1929 begins". Holland Sentinel. Retrieved November 1, 2017. 7&6=thirteen () 00:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
I have made various additions to the article. Based on the article's "History" page, these additions meet (in terms of size and time) the broad parameters of the 5X/7-day requirement you have mentioned. However: (a) there may well be additional parameters that I do not know about, and (b) I have helped to write several other DYK articles and do not have an intense desire that this become one. My underlying goals were to pay tribute to the lost ship's company, and to develop an online presence for the lost vessel in case its hull is found soon with the help of modern technology. The vessel was a comparatively humble one, but its loss was important because the incident occurred right at the dawn of portable non-spark-gap radio machinery. Prior to the late 1920s, pre-portable radio sets were big, heavy, and required full-time personnel, so it is no wonder that shipowners refused to pay for them. I was able to uncover the text of a Michigan historical marker that provides some standing for the assertion that the loss of the Andaste helped to force the Coast Guard and the owners of Great Lakes commercial ships into better caretaking of their seamen on the Great Lakes. Bigturtle (talk) 00:49, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Wow! I'll nominate it. I can do that. Any idea for a hook? 7&6=thirteen () 01:18, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Template:Did you know nominations/SS Andaste 7&6=thirteen () 02:07, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
One possible "hook" could be Earl Zietlow, the 14-year-old first-time seaman who perished aboard the doomed vessel. Another "hook" could be that even though the Andaste sailed for the last time more than 20 years after the invention of radio, she had no radio. Bigturtle (talk) 14:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Andaste in 1923

Something to look into with the Andaste article: Devendorf says she was converted to a self-unloaded in 1923, and a sand dredger ("sandsucker") in 1925. But Brehm, Jerlekci, Van Der Linden, and other sources indicate a 1923 date for this. It appears to have been a two-part conversion, begun in 1923 and used in 1923 and 1924, and then completed in 1925. Dredging equipment was added in 1925. I'd suggest that Boyer seems to have conflated the two. Perhaps it's better to not use the Boyer source so much at that point in the article, and use some of these others to flesh out what really happened in 1923 and 1925. I'll let you choose how to handle this. (I'm off to work on a railroad article... :) ) - Tim1965 (talk) 20:55, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

New pages?

Since you seem to be involved in cleanup and stuff behind the scenes, why don't you patrol some new pages? We need more people to help out here, because even with ACTRIAL, the number of unreviewed new pages is still going up. So, it would be nice if you could help out. RileyBugz会話投稿記録 14:29, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Happy wikibirthday to you, too. I'll think about it. 7&6=thirteen () 17:14, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't notice it was your Wikibirthday. Well, happy Wikibirthday! RileyBugz会話投稿記録 21:00, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Nobody else did either. Hazard of being a WP:Wikignome I guess. 7&6=thirteen () 21:21, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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Signed up. 7&6=thirteen () 17:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Boblo island lighthouse. Template:Did you know nominations/Bois Blanc Island Lighthouse and Blockhouse Your thoughts and assistance would be appreciated. 7&6=thirteen () 18:03, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Robert "Big Mojo" Elem

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"Trolls" and Michigan

FYI for those of you who might care. Ongoing discussion here 7&6=thirteen () 18:53, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletion Review

Hey there! In the AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oliver Isaacs, you voted to keep the article. I'm trying to see if I can re-create that article with the proper sources etc. Your thoughts on this? Thanks! FiendYT

There is nothing to stop you from rewriting the article, being careful of course to avoid the minefields already trod. You can ask an administrator for a copy of hhe article as it appeared. Get it. Rewrite it in your sandbox, and then let me look at the draft. I will then give you my opinion as to whether it is 'ready for prime time' to be moved to the main space.
If you are talking about challenging the deletion via some sort of appeal, I have no advice I want to share at this time.
Good luck. 02:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Requests for undeletion 7&6=thirteen () 14:48, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Just a note. 7&6=thirteen () 14:59, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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I just added a source that elucidates almost everything we need. This will be a DYK. It is a draft now. 7&6=thirteen () 01:43, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Acropora aculeus

On 22 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Acropora aculeus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the coral Acropora aculeus is particularly susceptible to coral bleaching and coral diseases and is listed as a vulnerable species? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Acropora aculeus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Acropora aculeus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for SS Andaste

On 22 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SS Andaste, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the SS Andaste (pictured) – a hybrid whaleback Great Lakes cargo vessel – disappeared with all hands on Lake Michigan in 1929 and is still listed as unfound? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SS Andaste. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, SS Andaste), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations! Bigturtle (talk) 00:15, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK medals

The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Congratulations Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Congratulations Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Congratulations Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Congratulationse Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Well thank you very much. I am a very long way from 500. It took me 10 years to get here. 7&6=thirteen () 14:12, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

I won't live to see that. And neither will you. ◻ {:>{)> But we are well on our way to a billion edits. 7&6=thirteen () 15:36, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Fit in or fuck off

On 27 November 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fit in or fuck off, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the phrase "fit in or fuck off" – an organizational paradigm – has conceptually been appropriated to other contexts? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fit in or fuck off. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fit in or fuck off), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:12, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Approved here. Nothing to be added.
Main page appearance.
Page views 20914 total, with 19895 on November 27, 2017.
Per Section 1E of the DYK eligibility rules: "Articles that have featured (bold link) previously on DYK, or in a blurb on the main page's In the news, or On this day sections are ineligible. (Articles linked at ITN or OTD not in bold, including the recent deaths section, are still eligible."
Edits impermissably and tardily added to the DYK nomination page:

(cur | prev) 20:19, 27 November 2017‎ Staszek Lem (talk | contribs)‎ . . (7,176 bytes) (+281)‎
(cur | prev) 20:16, 27 November 2017‎ Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk | contribs)‎ . . (6,895 bytes) (-29)‎
7&6=thirteen () 23:05, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Historical revisionism 7&6=thirteen () 23:26, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Nearly 20k hits. I'd say that was of "interest to our readers". Good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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Main page DYK discussion

I can't figure out how to ping you, but see here in reference to a hook you promoted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors#Errors_in_the_current_or_next_Did_you_know...

Umimmak (talk) 05:16, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Umimmak Thanks. Replied there. Flyspecking hooks.[1] Bah! Humbug! 7&6=thirteen () 16:59, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
  1. ^ Todeschini, David (March 24, 2006). The Lie Detection Manual. Net4TruthUSA.com. p. 95. ISBN 9781411618213. Those who ultimately remain will be those among us who can pick fly shit out of pepper so-to-speak, or those who are skilled in the art of causing others to believe that fly shit is pepper, so that they unwittingly consume it without question.

reverting that edit

I must confess I don't see the reasons for reverting that edit/tag. The outline of the article doesn't demonstrate any notability, except of "hey, we were the first" and "damn, watch it, we're awesome." In my opinion, shameless self-advertising, and not much of encyclopaedic nature (if yes, the relevant content could be extracted into one or at most two sentences, but still, definitely not enough to merit its own page.)

Quinyu (talk) 21:00, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Quinyu We've been through this before on that very page, Shelby Gem Factory. IMO, you are wrong. And serial WP:PROD won't change the outcome. The article at the time of the nomination was half of what it is today. Gem manufacturing is not as common as jewelry manufacturing; and the article recognizes that the technology is being licensed elsewhere. The tags you entered concerning WP:Notability and WP:Advertising are against WP:Consensus. WP:Not paper. Knock yourself out. It will be a communal waste of time, but I can't stop you. 7&6=thirteen () 22:32, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Great job on references Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:25, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. 7&6=thirteen () 18:48, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
I second that!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:53, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Here's his obituary. Are you able to find out when exactly he served as a member of the Tennessee House of Representatives for Davidson County, Tennessee please? I need the specific dates before I can create it.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:13, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

There will be something in the legislature or the state records. I am as clueless as you. 7&6=thirteen () 03:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
"On January 10, Davidson County's Representative Charles P. Fahey introduced Bill Number 87 "to separate white and colored passengers on streetcars."". So at least in 1905. But I need more info.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:25, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Here's what Bing.com partially listed for "Charles P. Fahey Tennessee legislator":

Nashville's Streetcar Boycott - Tennessee State University ww2.tnstate.edu/library/digital/nashv.htm NASHVILLE'S STREETCAR BOYCOTT ... the Tennessee General Assembly attempted to expand ... Davidson County's Representative Charles P. Fahey introduced Bill Number ...

Nashville’s Streetcar Boycott (1905–1907) | The Black Past ... www.blackpast.org › African American History ... Tennessee General Assembly in 1999 attempted to ... when the General Assembly ... Davidson County’s Representative Charles P. Fahey of Nashville ...

Images of charles p. fahey tennessee legislature bing.com/images Image result for charles p. fahey tennessee legislatureImage result for charles p. fahey tennessee legislatureImage result for charles p. fahey tennessee legislatureImage result for charles p. fahey tennessee legislatureImage result for charles p. fahey tennessee legislatureImage result for charles p. fahey tennessee legislature See more images of charles p. fahey tennessee legislature Tennessee State Library and Archives: Photograph and Image ... tnsos.org/tsla/imagesearch/index.php?resultpage=4&find=knoxville University of Tennessee ... l-r: John P. Murphy of Knoxville, William Hall of Knoxville, Charles P. Fahey of ... Document signings; Legislation; Legislators: 1901:

Charles Fahey - Get Data Reports - Phone, Address & more https://www.publicrecords.com/people-search-records/charles-fahey PublicRecords.com provides records for Charles Fahey. See matches in our databases for Charles Fahey and get report instantly. Check phone, address, background ...

Tennessee State Library and Archives: Photograph and Image ... tnsos.org/tsla/imagesearch/index.php?resultpage=4&find=memphis Photograph and Image Search. ... Tennessee. Cabinet officers: ... l-r: John P. Murphy of Knoxville, William Hall of Knoxville, Charles P. Fahey of Nashville, ...

The Fayette falcon. (Somerville, Tenn.) 190?-current ... chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn89058253/1915-03-12/ed-1/seq-2 The Fayette falcon., March 12, 1915, Image 2 ... He said the Legislature could not know at this time Just when it should adjourn. ... Charles P. Fahey, ...
Hope that helps. 7&6=thirteen () 10:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

And here's anoither one from Tennessee State archives and here7&6=thirteen () 10:43, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. We are still not able to find out when exactly he was a member of the TN state house...Zigzig20s (talk) 11:06, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Good picture of him at the signing of the Child Labor Law. 7&6=thirteen () 11:49, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
http://www.capitol.tn.gov/house/archives/54GA/54Members.html check out each contiguous session of the legislature. It's ugly, but it should work. 7&6=thirteen () 12:41, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Members of the Tennessee General Assembly should answer your question. Archives has it. 7&6=thirteen () 12:46, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Zigzig20s Archives has it. 7&6=thirteen () 23:51, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
I've started the article. It's still a bit fuzzy.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Please don't add unreferenced info to the lede, when there is no such content in the body of the text. The lede is a summary of the article.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:48, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

No problem. No worries. You are on your own. 7&6=thirteen () 22:04, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Zigzig20s Please stop spreading the lie that I posted a "legal threat" on your talk page. This was a twisted reading of what I said. Please stop. 7&6=thirteen () 22:20, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Stahlman

I added a direct quote until we figure out a way to flesh it out, possibly by finding more RS on Newspapers.com. In the mean time, I encourage you to read this article if you're interested. We should have an article about the 1967 Nashville riot--feel free to create it if you have time. Thank you for your interest!Zigzig20s (talk) 18:30, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Its' a really big encyclopaedia. Nice meeting you. 7&6=thirteen () 18:35, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for SMS Marie

Alex Shih (talk) 00:06, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Reliable source? St. Johns, Michigan

I was wondering if this is indeed acceptable [4]. 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:21, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I think it's reliable. But a quick search shows lots of parallel tracks leading to the same destination. 7&6=thirteen () 21:34, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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Advice on Reid Collins and Tsai article

Hi. Can you please take a look at Reid Collins & Tsai article. I noticed that you have a lawyer background and decided to ask for your advice. This is my first-ever law article and don’t have much expertise in the field. What do you think about the article overall? Should something be added or omitted? Maybe you can point me to some other law companies articles with similar profile? I also have a question about the correct detailed category. The company originally started at Austin but currently have offices in other cities. Since the company has a bad history of edits (it has been created by a sockpuppet editor who declined he has been paid) I do want to make this article as good as possible. Also I truly think the company is notable. Thank you in advance. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Bbarmadillo, I think that the use of "In October 2011, RCT partner Marina Marmolejo left the company to replace federal judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas." in the History section is dubious. Sounds like a judicial ethics violation, i.e., a judicial endorsement of the firm.
Create a separate section for notable partners or something to that effect.
I think your list of awards in separate items is overblown and overly promotional. Turn it into a paragraph. See Dykema Gossett, Miller Canfield and Warner Norcross & Judd.
The tone is promotional and WP:Advertorial. Suggest less effusive adjectives and adverbs. The accomplishments speak for themselves. 7&6=thirteen () 15:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. Very helpful and exact! I have reworked the article. Restructured a bit and also removed completely the part about Marina Marmolejo (as a judicial ethics violation). What else could (should) be improved? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:47, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
You don't have to make Marina Marmolejo disappear. That he came from your firm and went to become a Federal District judge can be noted. Just move it elsewhere, along with your other alumnii. Let me think about the rest. 7&6=thirteen () 21:50, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Well, I think that making a part like "Notable partners" would definitely look very promotional. Also the information about Marina's part is at her page. So probably no real need to keep it here. Especially if you see a potential ethical problem with this. I am not representing RCT, I was just hired to clean up the mess that another editor created :) As I said, it is my first ever law article. Thanks again for your advice. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 22:06, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
If you are hired, you need to disclose that. WP:Paid editing. I do think that when they mention Supreme Court justices who came from Cravath, Swaine & Moore and List of Cravath, Swaine & Moore employees it isn't a problem. 7&6=thirteen () 22:19, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Me working as paid editor on this article is fully disclosed both at my User profile and the article's Talk page. Also the article is submitted for the AfC process as required for COI articles. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Good to hear. No worries! 7&6=thirteen () 22:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Looks much more restrained. Good editing. 22:36, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for taking your time to work on this article. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 07:33, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Go through the article and add {{subscription}} to the sources to which that applies. 7&6=thirteen () 12:13, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
I do think that this is a better article than most of the comparitors I listed above. I think it is informative. Once you clear up the minor formatting issues, I will take a look at moving it out of drafts, unless someone beats me to it. 7&6=thirteen () 18:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Added subscription tags where needed, changed one typo link (Bloomberg/WSJ) and also added 2 more categories. Sorry for the delay, I was out of town. Didn't see that you started editing it. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:57, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
I've seen your suggestion regarding the use of "author". My point of view is that there is no need to use "first" and "last" at the references with single author. Changed the one with 2 authors, though. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:07, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Ordinarily, I prefer to use a separate list of sources and the WP:SFN I also think that as a matter of style that i prefer last name first, followed by first name. I find that it is easiest if I use the WP:Citation templates uniformly. So I try to work within the citation templates, but choose knowledgably from them. I would note that you were using "publisher" when it should have been "newspaper" or "work". Those produce italics for titles. But there is the additional factor of WP:CITEVAR. 7&6=thirteen () 19:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Interesting. What is the "publisher" for then? I've always used just "publisher" or "website". -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:23, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

publisher is Lippincott West Publishing or Doubleday or Smithsonian or Unites States Postal Service. I do occasionally use it for something like Google.com or some other website publisher.
agency is Associated Press.
via includes HighBeam Research and YouTube.
location is usually the place where the publisher is located. I have sometimes used it, however, as the "dateline" from news stories. That is controversial, and I think many would disagree. These are some of the finer and more esoteric points of using templates. I am kind of well known for this kind of work. It's not that hard, but it takes some study and application to figure it out. A lot of folks just don't bother. 7&6=thirteen () 19:37, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Makes a lot of sense. Will use it! Thanks. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:45, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
I also like to use WP:efn. I usually use the upper alpha format. See my work at Long face syndrome for example. Trying to rescue that from deletion. User:AustralianRupert taught me how to do efn formats. Give a man a fish, etc. 7&6=thirteen () 19:51, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
I use it to cite books when there are many mentions, but I guess one can use it in other cases as well. Long face syndrome is an interesting subject. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
I dislike deletions as a general rule, and particularly when there is no pretended compliance of WP:Before. I knew nothing of this subject until I wrote the article. I think I will take it to DYK. 7&6=thirteen () 20:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
I have the same attitude. Voted today for GetResponse article. Anyone with a minimal knowledge of digital marketing and email marketing knows the company. Yack, so stupid! -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Do you think any further improvement of RCT article is needed? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Barnflake

It's quite lovely, thanks - no need to apologize. Thanks very much for your kind words and sentiment - I'm working one of my own that I hope to have available in a couple of days. :-) Elsewise happy editing! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:54, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

I hope you emjoyed Steven Martin. {:>{)> 7&6=thirteen () 17:57, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Status of RCT article

Hi. Can you please tell me the status of RCT article after your edits. It is neither accepted, nor declined and the message on top suggests to submitted it for review. I am a bit puzzled. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

I indicated I reviewed it. That's all I am empowered to do. Needs to be moved to main space. 7&6=thirteen () 17:53, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:13, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
I apologize. The new page reviewer status is "new" to me. So I'm in a steep learning curve right now. You are an experiment! 7&6=thirteen () 18:15, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
I submitted for the review. I guess this is the right sequence of actions. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

I marked it as "Patrolled" 7&6=thirteen () 18:17, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

"tis the season...."

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Merry Christmas to all!

We wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas, and a Happy, Glorious, Prosperous New Year! God bless!  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 10:35, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year 2018!
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Merry Christmas!

Wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year 2018!
A very Happy, Glorious, Prosperous Christmas and New Year! God bless!  — Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:04, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I keep running into you. Thank you for all your work on Long face syndrome. You add a lot of great content to Wikipedia and your efforts are very much appreciated. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   and Merry Christmas 12:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much. 7&6=thirteen () 13:05, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda

A Chritmas llawen iawn a Blwyddyn Newydd hapus a ffyniannus i chi hefyd 7&6=thirteen () 18:38, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Christmas greetings

A Shaker Christmas wish
Give good gifts, one to another
Peace, joy and comfort gladly bestow
Harbor no ill 'gainst sister or brother
Smooth life's journey as you onward go.
Broad as the sunshine, free as the showers.
So shed an influence blessing to prove;
Give for the noblest of efforts your pow'rs;
Blest and be blest, is the law of love.

Wishing you all the best for 2018 and beyond! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

What profoundly simple thoughts. Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 20:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
It's a lovely little carol - my choir did it earlier this month. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
From Stave one of Dickens A Christmas Carol

Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail. Mind! I don’t mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile; and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country’s done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.

So you see even Charles was looking for a reliable source :-) Thank you for your contributions to the 'pedia. ~ MarnetteD|Talk 23:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Heddwch ac ewyllys da

   Compliments of the season
Wishing you all the best for 2018 — good health, sufficient wealth, peace and contentment 
 Cheers! ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 18:10, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Shearonink (talk) 20:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

response to your message

Getting used to this environment. Different from anything I've seen in the past. I am proceeding slowly. Tring to understand your conventions. Feel like such a beginner here. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MerlynAya (talkcontribs) 16:28, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Oliver B. Shallenberger

On 27 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oliver B. Shallenberger, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Oliver B. Shallenberger invented the first successful electric meter (pictured), predecessor to the modern meter used today? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oliver B. Shallenberger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Oliver B. Shallenberger), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Reviewing

Hello, 7&6=thirteen.
AfC submissions
Random submission
3+ months
2,422 pending submissions
Purge to update

I recently sent you an invitation to join NPP, but you also might be the right candidate for another related project, AfC, which is also extremely backlogged.
Would you please consider becoming an Articles for Creation reviewer? Articles for Creation reviewers help new users learn the ropes of creating their first articles, and identify whether topics are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Reviewing drafts doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia inclusion policies and guidelines; currently Wikipedia needs experienced users at this task. (After requesting to be added to the project, reviewing is not mandatory. One can do it at their convenience). But kindly read the reviewing instructions before making your decision. Thanks. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 02:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Here's a question? 7&6=thirteen () 22:49, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Deleted. The antipathy was overwhelming and I thought undeserved. 7&6=thirteen () 21:56, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

New Years new page backlog drive

Hello 7&6=thirteen, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Announcing the NPP New Year Backlog Drive!

We have done amazing work so far in December to reduce the New Pages Feed backlog by over 3000 articles! Now is the time to capitalise on our momentum and help eliminate the backlog!

The backlog drive will begin on January 1st and run until January 29th. Prize tiers and other info can be found HERE.

Awards will be given in tiers in two categories:

  • The total number of reviews completed for the month.
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NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.


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Happy New Year, 7&6=thirteen!

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 02:31, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!!

Chateau or Castle

Dear 7&6 thirtheen,If you are native english/american speaker, please give your suggestion concerning "Chateau* or Castle. I'm strongly disagree with iaroslavvs, who has changed Castle to Chateu Dmitryeremeev (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Dmitryeremeev Fodors suggests either is correct. Chateau is of French derivation. Castle is English mainly (late Old English: from Anglo-Norman French and Old Northern French castel, from Latin castellum, diminutive of castrum ‘fort.’). In the U.S. the latter is more commonly used, I think. There is also the matter of interpretation (not just translation) from the local language and dialect, and I would say asking a locally-based interpreter who knew the place would be a good start. Matter of style, context and personal preference. Like Wrigley's Spearmint, 'Some call it a spear; some call it an arrow.' Your mileage may vary. 7&6=thirteen () 18:53, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Dmitryeremeev (talk) 07:39, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Wrong identification of photos, artwork, etc.

I need help with fixing wrong identification of my original photograhs, text, and artwork. Someone has labelled it wrong as copied or without sources etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosetecscc (talkcontribs) 17:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Rosetecscc Sorry, but that's not something I know much about. You'll have to find another helper. I suggest you go to WP:Helpdesk. 7&6=thirteen () 20:06, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Advice on recently deleted article?

Saw you are part of the Article Rescue Squadron and wondered if you might be able to offer advice and or help. I'm an inexperienced editor who wrote a few articles in 2014 (I'm a professor and wanted to understand wikipedia better and be able to help my students with it). Two of my articles were created, but one was deleted today (Ty Morse) after a discussion that hinged on whether or not the subject was actually notable, which did not seem to reach consensus. I don't know who to reach out to or if this is even appropriate, but I'm looking for some guidance on what to do now or how to resolve it. Any ideas? Jemima1418 (talk) 18:32, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Jemima1418 See and read thoroughly WP:Deletion. Ask a friendly WP:Administrator for a copy of the deleted article. Then improve it with WP:RS references that answer to question WP:Notability and WP:GNG pose. You might also be able to appeal the decision (it sounds like there may not have been a WP:Consensus. Without knowing anything about the article, my instinct would be to add sources from books, newspapers, scholarly articles, and the web. Use Google books, Google scholar, Bing.com, Highbeam research, etc. As a professor you've got better sources than I do. Hope that helps. If you need more detailed instruction, email me. Good luck. 7&6=thirteen () 11:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Ty Morse apparently the promotional tone and WP:Advertising may have been an issue. Can't comment on what I haven't seen. 7&6=thirteen () 11:54, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice, 7&6=thirteen (). Would you recommend deletion review if there wasn't WP:Consensus in the deletion discussion? Or just reworking the page and resubmitting it in a month or two? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jemima1418 (talkcontribs) 20:32, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
appeals can be tough. There was a hard line display in the discussion, and I don't know why. Intuitively, I would guess that the passage of time will cause the sharpness to wear down.
So, unless there is an urgent need, I would say repackage it (move stuff around, change the headings and subheadings, get out your thesaurus and recast adverbs and adjectives), add some more WP:RS sources, buff the tone down, and resubmit it in a few weeks. I say that, of course, without actually having seen the article. So you can 'take that with a grain of salt.' 7&6=thirteen () 21:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I just discovered

the delightful bit of Michigan weather you sent me under the guise of a holiday barnstar. Thanks, but we are having freezing weather here too. It hit 50º last night. Thanks again, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:42, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Would like your input in a discussion

Hi,

I would appreciate it if you could give your input regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_naval_ship_classes_in_service#Split_this_article_into_multiple_articles Thanks in advance Dragnadh (talk) 15:48, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

My user page

Hi! Regarding my user page, thank you for telling me that I can do whatever I want on my user page. It says on WP:User pages that you can add personal information about yourself if desired. I want to add some off-Wiki interests that I have on my user page.

For example, some TV shows that I am a fan of that I want to add to my userpage are: Most Shocking, Chopped, Chopped Junior, SpongeBob SquarePants, iCarly, Food Network Star, Food Network Star Kids, Kids Baking Championship, and Worst Cooks in America.

I also want to add some singers and bands that I am a fan of on my user page as part of my off-Wiki interests. Some singers and bands that I am a fan of are: Kidz Bop, Luke Bryan, Darius Rucker, Carrie Underwood, The Chainsmokers, and Taylor Swift.

I also want to add some more things about myself on my user page. I want to add that I have autism, I am the oldest child in my family, I love singing, I watch videos and listen to music on YouTube every day, and I want to add that I attend church regularly.

Some political issues I oppose are Black Lives Matter, abortion, illegal immigration to the United States, and United States national anthem protests (2016-ongoing).

Some sports teams I am a fan of are the Colorado Rockies, the Denver Broncos, the Colorado Rapids, the Colorado Avalanche, and the Denver Nuggets.

I also want to create userboxes that say that I am a junior in high school, I attend public school, and I want to properly make the userbox with the age that I am, and how long I was on Wikipedia for.

I want to add all of these as userboxes on my user page. How can I add these as userboxes, and where I can get these? Please tell me how I can add these as userboxes on my talk page, and thank you for taking the time to read this message. I can't wait to hear from you. Colman2000 (talk) 20:20, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

I really don't know where to find them. Most of the user boxes I used i borrowed from someone else. The two I created were the Leonberger and the Lincoln LS boxes.
This user is a Lincoln LS owner.


This user is owned by a Leonberger.


As to those I found someone else's user box, clicked on edit (without saving) them, and emulated their formatting. I did that so long ago that I don't remember how I did it.
If you wander around user pages you will find a vast choice of user boxes.

Here is a source: Wikipedia:Userboxes. While you have a right to use as many user boxes as you want, Architect Ludwig Mies van der Rohe once said, 'less is more.' Too many just confuses the issue. Good luck. 7&6=thirteen () 20:29, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for writing. I will do just that. Cheers! Colman2000 (talk) 20:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
You are welcome. Welcome aboard. 7&6=thirteen () 20:54, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
16 American flags on your User:page might be a bit over the top. Some folks may find that off putting or distracting. Like using a machine gun to kill a flea. We edit in an environment where we encounter and interact with editors from all over the world. But it's a matter of style and it is entirely up to you. I'm not your mother. 7&6=thirteen () 21:30, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I just used one American flag and that's it. I know you're not my mother, and I have been interacting with editors from Canada and the United Kingdom. I am styling my user page, and I will do whatever I want on my page. Cheers! Colman2000 (talk) 21:39, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Looks much improved. Thumbs up icon 7&6=thirteen () 23:07, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm finished now. I can't find anything else to add to my userpage. Colman2000 (talk) 23:26, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Have you been to the End of Wikipedia? 7&6=thirteen () 01:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
No I have not. I will check that out. Colman2000 (talk) 18:19, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Unclosed table messed up user talk page

Your edit of User talk:Two Hearted River creating An Award for You left an unclosed table, which didn't matter much when your posting was the last one on the page, but two postings later, the page looked terrible, until I closed the table in my next edit. —Anomalocaris (talk) 10:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. 7&6=thirteen () 11:47, 10 January 2018 (UTC)