User talk:Adolphitus

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June 2023[edit]

Information icon Hello! I'm Bilby. Your recent edit(s) to the page Argument from authority appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Bilby (talk) 23:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Adophitus. I see that you have been repeatedly editing the article Argument from authority to insist that such arguments are always fallacies. Up to now, the article has stated that this approach is considered a fallacy by some people and as a sometimes-acceptable approach by other people. To make a drastic change in this longstanding content, by insisting it is always a fallacy, requires strong justification. I have blocked the article for two days to allow you and the other editor to work out your differences on the article's talk page. I see that you are a brand new editor here; you need to understand that what is said on Wikipedia must be supported by Reliable sources. Yes, in effect we justify our content by appealing to experts! -- MelanieN (talk) 03:10, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok. I just hope people realise Wikipedia is not reliable in logics. I think both POV's should be included even though I'm completely certain of why it IS always a fallacy. I think the article should focus more on quotes and reasoning than in "source bombing". More sources don't make you more correct. Specially if those sources themselves admit that it has been long described as a fallacy for most of history (or just say the hot take "some people listed it as valid", while giving no proof at all). Yes appealing to authorithy might be a good inductive method ("authorities are generally right so they must be right this time"), but that doesn't make it valid as a deduction and therefore the conclusions are falsifiable, unlike with proper non fallacious deductions, wich are logically proven to be pure truth.
I think giving examples and explanations is a lot more important in this artile than sources, even though they won't hurt, they are not the priority when talkign about commen knowledge. That's why articles about math rarely provide sources for most claims, or just give one. Because it's logic.... and it proves itself. Adolphitus (talk) 03:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Philosophy Barnstar[edit]

The Philosophy Barnstar
To recognize your dedication and contributions on the Appeal to Authority page. Keep fighting the good fight there! AlphabeticThing9 (talk) 19:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you my friend. I think it's important to fight against the 1984-like manipullation of phylosophy and language before people are left with no tools for defending truth. Adolphitus (talk) 03:44, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mind fighting POV-pushing once again?[edit]

Looks like he's back at POV-pushing over at argument from authority. Wanna chime in over at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Argument_from_authority? AlphabeticThing9 (talk) 05:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He is right in this one. You are restoring a much worse and more incomplete version of the article. You can add "sources which disagree with the view that "it is a practical and sound way of obtaining knowledge" " if you wish but please dont go back to that other crappy version. Adolphitus (talk) 12:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Argument from Authority[edit]

Hi Adolphitus. There's currently a discussion on Argument from Authority that is relevent to you, given that it is about reverting the changes that you made to the article previously to now focus on the inductive version of the argument. Accordingly, I thought it may be of interest to you. - Bilby (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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