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A side issue about opinion / secondary sources

I'm bringing this to your user talk page because it has little to do with the ongoing content dispute at Talk:Scientific_American. You stated there that opinion pieces are not considered a secondary source. That's not quite accurate. Per WP:SECONDARY, whether a source is considered primary or secondary is context-dependent, and independent of whether it is considered reliable. The problem with using WP:RSEDITORIAL sources for claims about anything other than the author's opinion is that they are rarely reliable for statements of fact and thus do not typically confer DUE weight, not that they aren't SECONDARY analysis. I'll admit that this is a rather arcane topic, but I thought it warranted saying. Cheers, Generalrelative (talk) 04:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

No worries, Generalrelative. To be specific, opinion pieces are so defined by footnote d in WP:PRIMARY (editorials, op-eds, columns, blogs, and other opinion pieces, including (depending on context) reviews and interviews) but it's not something that comes up very often so not usually very useful except when discussing obscure points of policy, since primary sources could well be independent, reliable and useful for the purposes we're using them for. Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:19, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Aha, now I see what you're talking about. I appreciate your thoughtful engagement. Generalrelative (talk) 06:50, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

FYI: If you do end up taking that editor to a noticeboard, you should be aware (if you aren't already) of their previous sanction for precisely this kind of behavior (Civil POV pushing and wear-down talkpage tactics) at Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory . You have to go into the history of their talk page to read about it, but here are their two lengthy, unsuccessful unblock requests, followed by a very direct admin warning about "making everyone miserable". I keep on hoping that they'll drop the stick, because drama boards are such a drag, and getting folks to take action on civil POV-pushing can be difficult –– but with this relevant history at least it may go down a bit easier. Generalrelative (talk) 00:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Reinkanyeted (19:47, 17 October 2023)

I recently edited the page for Graduation (album) by Kanye West. I edited the critical reception part from "was met with generally positive reviews" to "was met with widespread critical acclaim." I have reviewed the ratings for Graduation for many hours, and can confidently say that Graduation deserves the "widespread critical acclaim" acknowledgement. What are your thoughts? --Reinkanyeted (talk) 19:47, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi Reinkanyeted. In general, we would expect a strong claim like "widespread critical acclaim" to be supported by equally strong sources. This could be a secondary source (evaluating the other reviews) explicitly stating the same claim where that source is generally considered reliable for such a claim. Alternatively, if there are no such sources available, it should be immediately obvious without spending hours reviewing things, even to people who may be less familiar with the subject than you are. Otherwise, I would recommend considering whether a less strongly worded phrase may be more appropriately supported by the available sources. Alpha3031 (t • c) 09:18, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Wonderstatista (00:22, 21 October 2023)

How do schools decide on budgeting for sports programs for the whole year with so many sports in the midwest: cross country, golf, basketball, football, track, field hockey, volleyball,soccer, bowling, and academic programs: speech, drama, model united nations, home economics, literature club, student council, library club, computer club, journalism and yearbook, photography, homecoming events, mathematics club, physics and chemistry club, law club, human development club, sociology club, and psychology club. I would like to know the top schools in the midwest for these subjects. --Wonderstatista (talk) 00:22, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi Wonderstatista. We can probably point you towards general advice on how schools budget, for example, this report from the American Association of School Administrators, but for specifics it's probably best to contact the specific schools you're considering, or seeing if there are rankings in local news sources. Alpha3031 (t • c) 10:39, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from SPEEDOONE (10:48, 21 October 2023)

i want to create my own biography --SPEEDOONE (talk) 10:48, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @SPEEDOONE. It is usually recommended not to do so, but Wikipedia:Autobiography § Creating an article about yourself has some advice on how to do so. If you do decide to go ahead, please ensure you have lots of coverage in reliable sources written about you directly and in detail, that are not interviews or directly derived from something you said, wrote or otherwise produced (see WP:GNG and WP:BASIC). Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from Isahmhassan (17:45, 25 October 2023)

Hello I want to add my picture --Isahmhassan (talk) 17:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi Isahmhassan, there's a guide to uploading images at Wikipedia:Uploading images that you should read if you want to do so. The most important thing to consider is the copyright of the image, but it should generally also have a relevant educational purpose. Alpha3031 (t • c) 23:15, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive

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October 2023 NPP backlog drive - Streak award

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This award is given to Alpha3031 for collecting more than 7 points per week in the October 2023 NPP backlog drive. Thank you so much for your continuous contributions to the drive! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:47, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

October 2023 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This award is given to Alpha3031 for collecting more than 25 points during the October 2023 NPP backlog drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to the drive! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Raiyan Hafiy (19:15, 3 November 2023)

Hi , quick question . Where can you make your own page ? I'm still new here and wanted to make a page about my school since it wasn't in the Wiki . --Raiyan Hafiy (talk) 19:15, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi Raiyan Hafiy, I'd suggest reading the help page on this, Help:Your first article. After you're done there's a button that will start the article wizard, which will help create a draft page that you can start writing in. The most important thing to keep in mind though, is to make sure you can find enough sources that cover the school in detail, that are independent of the school itself, and are published by reputable publishers. Usually you'd want to aim for 3 of those detailed sources, and they will form a skeleton to build your article around, so to speak. This will improve the chances of your article being accepted, but more importantly, it will give a structure for your article to develop around. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Milan 11 06 06 on University of Tokyo (12:18, 7 November 2023)

Hello. I want to ask about scholarships --Milan 11 06 06 (talk) 12:18, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

What kind of scholarships did you want to ask about Milan 11 06 06? Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mvdjio on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Qwerfjkl (bot) 15 (21:08, 17 September 2023)

Hey I need your help about my article --Mvdjio (talk) 21:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Do you still need my help? Mvdjio (talk) 11:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

What is a Woman?

Hi, when you removed the Distractify reference you also removed a National Review reference. Did you mean to remove both or just the Distractify? Thanks. Gooseneck41 (talk) 22:19, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Just the Distractify, Gooseneck41. I don't use VE much so I might have accidentally deleted more than I intend. Alpha3031 (t • c) 22:22, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
No problem. You're braver than I am as I've never tried a visual edit. Do you want to fix it or would you like me to? Gooseneck41 (talk) 22:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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is my email address publicly available? --LibXgen (talk) 19:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi LibXgen. The email that you have set in your user preferences, if any, is not publicly visible, though other people may be able to send you emails through the "email user" functionality (see also WP:EMAIL). Using this functionality yourself will also reveal your email to the recipient so that they can reply to it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 01:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Salmanidrishi (18:52, 6 December 2023)

Hell --Salmanidrishi (talk) 18:52, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Viktor Tane (14:01, 10 December 2023)

Hello! I'm curious to learn more about how Wikipedia ensures the accuracy of information edited by humans. What measures or processes are in place, and how does the platform address potential biases or errors in content? --Viktor Tane (talk) 14:01, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Viktor. There's not any one specific formal processes for verifying the accuracy of edits to Wikipedia. Many people check the most recent changes (Special:RecentChanges) or a list of articles they've marked (Special:Watchlist) but it's fairly ad hoc. There are a number of different scenarios where one might want to make further changes to an article. In many cases, you can simply just make the change you would like yourself, but if there is a specific issue that you don't feel confident fixing, you can also add a cleanup tag so that people interested in that specific kind of issue can find it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 01:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Nihittirkey on Cyberattack (13:51, 13 December 2023)

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Question from Fuggly.Aquarius (17:34, 16 December 2023)

Hello I recently just edited a sentence on "catfishing". I only added what I thought was needed and it will not make a huge difference but I would love if you were to check it out and see if there aren't any mistakes. Thank you. --Fuggly.Aquarius (talk) 17:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Fuggly.Aquarius. I can see that your edit was later removed by someone else because it didn't exactly match the claim in the existing source. When adding a new claim, it is generally required for a source to explicitly state something that means the same (not something similar) as new claims different in meaning from those stated in sources are considered "original research" which should not be part of Wikipedia. I've added a new source and revised the wording a little. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Eleanor Clarke (15:01, 19 December 2023)

Hello! I am trying to update my company's wikipedia page. I have worked at Blenheim Art Foundation for 3 years and was personally involved in the exhibition that I am trying to add to our page. Unfortunately, every time I try to update our page, my edits are removed. Please can you help me with this? --Eleanor Clarke (talk) 15:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Eleanor, I see your previous edits to Blenheim Art Foundation were removed due to copyright concerns. Paraphrasing the text such that it is no longer substantially similar to the original would remove any said concerns. As you mentioned you are closely associated with the Foundation, please also take a look at the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines for managing any actual or perceived conflicts of interest. You may also find the edit request process helpful for getting at least some feedback on proposed edits. Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Tahelkadir on User talk:Tahelkadir (04:39, 5 January 2024)

I want to create a page about a person who isn't popular now can I ? --Tahelkadir (talk) 04:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Tahelkadir, sorry for the late response. I see someone else has already linked you over to our notability guidelines, but I just wanted to mention that it isn't really about how popular or famous someone. Basically, whether we can have an article is based on whether there are enough reliably published sources that we can write an article on that person or topic. An article might be created, for example, on some 16th century monk that nobody outside of professional historians have ever heard of, as long as there are two solid sources on them, but we might not be able to have an article on a youtuber with millions of subscribers, if there isn't much written about them, or if what is written doesn't meat one of the other criteria (reliable, independent and secondary). For living (or recently deceased) people, the rules are especially strict, because we want to ensure the highest quality sources are used. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Peacefulprogressive (04:27, 9 January 2024)

Hello, When will my first article about Josh Greene (filmmaker) be published? --Peacefulprogressive (talk) 04:27, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Peacefulprogressive, I apologise for not getting to this question earlier. Unfortunately, there is no fixed timeframe for drafts to be reviewed by, and they are not reviewed in any order, nor is there any fixed number of reviews before they are considered ready for publication. Currently, the oldest drafts are about 4 weeks old, but this might get longer or shorter by the time your draft is next reviewed, and it is also possible for drafts to be reviewed well before they become the oldest depending on reviewer preference. The best advice I can give you is to focus on the depth of coverage of your best sources (WP:THREE) as this is likely to give the best chance of a speedy review, especially if you highlight those sources so that reviewers identify them faster. Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Blackcake2000 (19:34, 11 January 2024)

Hello! I submitted an article for a review and was interested in how it's looking and how long it takes to get approved. Also, do I need to add a picture of this person? --Blackcake2000 (talk) 19:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello Blackcake2000. At a quick glance, the article does not appear to have any sources that stand out as particularly in depth. In general, for writing on Wikipedia there is a focus on sources that provide relatively detailed coverage, including multiple aspects of an article subject. This helps determine appropriate weight when putting together the article, and ensures that it is not just a list of events or otherwise loosely relate information. Focusing on fewer, more substantial sources (WP:THREE) also improves the chance for a quick review, though there is never a guarantee of any specific timeframe for individual reviews, or number of reviews before an article is accepted.
Adding a picture is not required and generally does not impact the review process. It may be an improvement to the pubilshed article, however if you do choose to add one you must ensure that there are no copyright issues. Most creative works (including photos) are copyrighted to the creator of that work by default, and for use on Wikipedia they must be explicitly licenced under a compatible free licence or fit into one of the very specific circumstances allowed by policy. Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi! Just want more clarity, I provided multiple articles in depth centered around this specific person. There were many video articles and written articles that spoke about this person. Including them being apart of history. Are you saying that I remove some of those articles? Thanks for your response! Blackcake2000 (talk) 17:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
I made some edits to consolidate the references! Let me know if this is a bit better Blackcake2000 (talk) 18:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 60

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Question from Ive been a cool person (05:59, 26 January 2024)

And I also did some mistakes cs I was bored but I DELETED it and kept it back to normal. --Ive been a cool person (talk) 05:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from DiddyDudeWhere'sMyCar? (16:42, 2 February 2024)

Hii Mentor! So if I were to make a wiki page about someone/something, what sources do you think would be the most trustworthy? BTW, why did you whack me with a wet fish :( --DiddyDudeWhere'sMyCar? (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Cpap649 (19:35, 22 January 2024)

Hi!! How do I collapse citations? Like under the article I just edited, I have >20 separate citations for one sentence, and they all show up as individual numbers instead of [8-30]. Or is this not possible? --Cpap649 (talk) 19:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Cpap649, sorry fo the belated response. You can bundle citations together by simply putting them all in the same <ref> tag. See Help:Citation merging for more information. Otherwise, it is not really possible to collapse footnotes in different ref tags, because of the software features like hovering over the numbers showing the full footnote, so each individual number has to be shown. Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ive been a cool person (05:57, 26 January 2024)

HELLO!! I just wanted to know how you add pictures to yk th text or passage I think thats what it’s called.! --Ive been a cool person (talk) 05:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Ive been a cool person, you can find instructions on how to add pictures to a page at Help:Pictures. Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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