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1 New Page Reviewer granted 2023-12-19 01:00 2023-12-19 01:00 1 2897 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
2 Thu Jan 4: Hacking Night + Wikipedia Day soon 2023-12-19 03:05 2023-12-19 03:05 1 2462 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
3 Disambiguation link notification for December 19 2023-12-19 05:59 2023-12-19 05:59 1 507 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
4 Requesting assist for GA nomination of Penang 2023-12-19 16:18 2023-12-20 00:29 3 833 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
5 New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive 2023-12-20 02:09 2023-12-20 02:09 1 1326 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
6 December 2023 2023-12-22 15:09 2023-12-22 21:39 6 2168 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
7 Unnecessary commentary on an editor 2023-12-24 16:54 2023-12-25 02:07 16 6744 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
8 Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction 2023-12-26 16:17 2023-12-27 02:42 10 6323 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
9 TY 2023-12-27 07:47 2023-12-27 07:52 2 622 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
10 Self-notification of ANI thread 2023-12-27 11:07 2023-12-27 11:07 1 538 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
11 Please 2023-12-27 23:06 2023-12-28 00:00 9 3211 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
12 I'm doing it. I'm taking the wikibreak. 2023-12-28 18:31 2023-12-28 18:31 1 658 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
13 Link to top 2023-12-29 15:40 2024-01-01 05:01 9 3075 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
14 January lichen task force newsletter 2024-01-01 02:59 2024-01-01 03:00 2 560 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
15 Administrators' newsletter – January 2024 2024-01-01 11:54 2024-01-01 11:54 1 5016 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
16 Please contact 2024-01-02 02:11 2024-01-02 02:54 2 458 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
17 Transclusion question 2024-01-03 20:58 2024-01-04 00:50 8 2483 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62
18 Fresh NPP Reviewer of the month 2024-01-06 00:44 2024-01-06 01:26 3 1134 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/62


New Page Reviewer granted

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Thu Jan 4: Hacking Night + Wikipedia Day soon

January 4: Hacking Night @ Prime Produce

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Disambiguation link notification for December 19

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Requesting assist for GA nomination of Penang

Hey there & good day! I've been working on the Penang article for the past few weeks now & nominating it for GA. I was wondering if you're keen to help in its assessment? Thanks! hundenvonPG (talk) 16:18, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. It looks pretty good. I'm not sure if I'll have time to review it today, though. But maybe later in the week. Andre🚐 16:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great to hear & looking forward! hundenvonPG (talk) 00:29, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive

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December 2023

Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Be'eri massacre, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Dylanvt (talk) 15:09, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Nahal Oz attack, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Dylanvt (talk) 15:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All your AFDs will be a speedy keep. WP:DTTR WP:POINT. Andre🚐 19:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Dylanvt (talk) 21:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Andrevan did nothing wrong. And yes, all the AFDs by Dylanvt are speedy keep. Especially when some are done a month after a "keep" decision was already made Facepalm Facepalm. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 21:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Oleg. Andre🚐 21:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary commentary on an editor

This was fine up until Maybe you should actually study international law before you make wild speculations about what is or isn't covered by it. Please leave out the unnecessary commentary on editors. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:54, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ScottishFinnishRadish: It's all good that you are volunteering to monitor some of the p-i contentious pages. But the most effective action that some Admins really need to take is to survey the talk page conduct of all editors across many pages. I think it will become evident that there is a group of editors who are routinely deflecting and blowing up discussion with sarcastic, off-topic personal disparagement and accusations of bad faith. Instead of us all needing to go through extended structured adjudication at AE or elsewhere, it would be much more effective and hightly efficient to give such disruptive editors warnings and then blocks if needed. Andrevan is one of the most level-headed, best-informed and civil editors in various difficult topics. He was recently brought to AE on a dubious charge by an editor who continued to engage in a provocative manner in the same subject, even while the AE was open. It's an odd spectacle to see Admins first volunteering their time, then complaining about how much time and attention it takes to do this in an inefficient and unproductive manner, when Admins are in fact authorized to do it much more directly and precisely at their discretion. Happy New Year, SFR. SPECIFICO talk 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As I continue to read through talk page discussions with a total length greater than the Bible I will continue to give nudges and warnings, and take actions when I see a need.
Andre, I hope you don't see this as a stern warning, but rather as a gentle reminder to avoid unnecessary personalization to help stem escalations that can disrupt already fraught discussions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Andre🚐 18:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please review these comments [1] [2] [3] Andre🚐 18:34, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I already gave a warning for that earlier. Those particular comments were the only time I recall seeing them pop up so I didn't go with a more formal warning. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:16, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see it now. Andre🚐 20:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note for SFR, SPECIFICO, posterity and any helpful TPS, here's my apology for Iskandar getting the brunt of my late night rage [4] and a modification on the talk page [5] Andre🚐 20:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Very helpful. One down, 11 to go.👩🏻 SPECIFICO talk 00:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I appreciate that. Thank you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:20, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    and this? Falsely accusing me of making things up? Andre🚐 23:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Been edited. Andre🚐 00:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[6] for the ol' archives. Andre🚐 01:42, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The part about the back and forth applies to you too, so please keep that in mind while discussing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely. You know it. Thanks. Time for a drink. Hope you're having a nice holiday. Andre🚐 01:53, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
[7] Andre🚐 02:07, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction

The following sanction now applies to you:

You are topic banned from the Palestine/Israel conflict, broadly construed, for 90 days.

You have been sanctioned for WP:BATTLEGROUND editing.[8][9][10][11]

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:17, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

:SFR, why shouldn't I appeal this? The diffs appear to me not violating - can you elaborate? And how come we ran up the pole of escalation from no logged warnings to 90 day topic ban? Is that standard? I have a mind to appeal, but I'd like some explanation first. [18:33, 26 December 2023 (UTC)]

Oh, I see I was part of a group as a "equal representative" of "my side" to make it fair. But I'd still like to know how the diffs above show what you're saying. I appreciate the attempt to be even-handed. But my diffs above show an attempt to be conciliatory, not battlegrounding. So, I would appeal it, but I do want to know if I appeal it and it's overturned does that overturn the other topic bans? 'Cause obviously I find those more fair, which I guess was your point, and I applaud that point. But there's no need to sanction me to make it "fair." [18:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)]
Actually, I'd be of a mind to NOT appeal and NOT need your response right now if it will help the other topic bans stick, so go deal with that first. I'll take a break for a while. Is there a statue of limitations on the appeal? Andre🚐 18:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The first and last diff are not violations. One can dispute the middle two. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, SFR is "involved", so was this properly done? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think he's involved. I think he's been patrolling this topic. and I find his other topic bans to be quite justified. Even if mine is a little thin, I don't want to quibble on it. Andre🚐 01:58, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Valjean, but don't worry about me. If you want to do me a favor, keep an eye on the articles I can't edit. But do so according to the judgment that any sound Wikipedian would do. Andre🚐 01:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My commentary about "involved" was based on the previous section "Unnecessary commentary on an editor." Otherwise, the topic area doesn't interest me, especially since it's so volatile. I see so much collateral damage to good editors who try to help and end up sanctioned. It's sort of like the LGBTQ area. No matter one's intentions, if one says the wrong word or pronoun, there is no policy, guideline, or million RS that can help you. I dipped my toe and quickly realized it was too explosive an area for me to edit. The personal attacks are nasty and no one sanctions the perpetrator. It's pretty much owned by a group of editors, and our RS policy does not apply, at all. It's a regular walled garden. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 02:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think SFR is doing some good work to deal with that, Valjean. Andre🚐 02:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TY

Appreciate all the reviews and I'm sure the rest of NPP will appreciate your help clearing the docket! Thank you, and have a wonderful evening. jengod (talk) 07:47, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank YOU for writing such obviously good articles. Not sure why NPP was letting those hang out! Hope all is well, see ya around! Andre🚐 07:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Self-notification of ANI thread

This is me, notifying myself of my discussion at ANI: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Nihonjinron_(a_topic_about_Japan)_-_edit_war [12] Andre🚐 11:07, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please

self-revert at AE. Your topic ban doesn't permit you to comment on topic-related AE filings, and it would be unwise of you to comment there regardless. I'm speaking as someone that really hopes you navigate your tban well and get an early reprieve. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Andre🚐 23:07, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is your only warning. Further topic ban violations will be met with escalating blocks. Broadly construed covers any and all discussions that are in any way related to the Palestine/Israel conflict. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:11, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Andre🚐 23:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Got any articles or drafts you want to collaborate on? If not, I could use some peer review of Redwood National and State Parks—it's in the middle of a featured article review—or we could both go poke at some of jengod's new articles. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, FFF :-) I'm supposed to be taking a wikibreak, but I'm having trouble. Jengod's been crushing it. Those are some awesome articles. I wrote Ginger Canzoneri yesterday and she shot me a thank. Made my day. Andre🚐 23:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree! She did some amazing work at Dolly Johnson, which should probably head toward a GA nom soon. Pinging Jengod: in case your ears are burning. Taking a look at Canzoneri now. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Bless you both @Andrevan @Firefangledfeathers. I'm trepidatious about nominating anything for anything but for Dolly...maybe. jengod (talk) 23:54, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's why you have us, just keep writing, and we'll tee it up for some noms soon. Andre🚐 00:00, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing it. I'm taking the wikibreak.

It's so hard to stop when you're on a tear. It'll only be for a few days, or longer if I get in the groove. If you need me, reach me by email. I tried to send out a few emails with odds and ends and loose ends, like excerpts of sources, and a few notes. Feel free to respond back or reach out and I'll see it. Don't believe everything you read, especially when it comes to love and war, folks. Andre🚐 18:31, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Link to top

Do you know of any way, maybe a skin or script, to create a link on each section heading line that can be clicked to take one back to the top of the page? Some websites provide such links. It would be nice here. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 15:40, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did I not do that once? It sounds familiar. Andre🚐 08:11, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I recall. I'd like to know how to do it. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I could've sworn I implemented that before. Maybe when we had those little simoleons on the Trump article footnotes. The way to do it is simple. The headings all have targets, and top is a target just like the headers, that references use to hop around. Remember now? Andre🚐 03:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did it and it works. I just added [[User talk:Valjean#top|↑]] (↑) after the text in each heading. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:49, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kudos. I've half a mind to give you a barnstar, but gave all of mine to SFR. If you want to get fancy, you can implement it as a template and use {{PAGENAME}} Andre🚐 04:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! I'll check that out. Look at my talk page. This one looks even better ▲ -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be a preference that can be turned on or off. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks cool, I'm into it. The little icon reminds me of the Triforce from The Legend of Zelda Andre🚐 05:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January lichen task force newsletter

The January issue of the lichen task force newsletter is available here. Delivered by MeegsC (talk) 02:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

woohoo! GO LICHENS! THE FIGHTIN' LICHEN! Andre🚐 03:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

added Clovermoss
readded Dennis Brown
removed

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please contact

Hi Andrevan. Please email arbcom-en@wikimedia.org at your earliest convenience. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have Andre🚐 02:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Transclusion question

What's the code for transcluding a lead? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 20:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Transclusion is just a {{ }} with the article inside. So create it as a separate page, and if you want to break out of the template namespace, you use ":"
e.g.
{{:Pizza party}} Check the page history of this page and I actually did it so you can see.Andre🚐 21:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but I want to only transclude the lead. How is that done? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 21:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, there's a shortcut for that. Help:Labeled section transclusion
here turns out there is {{Excerpt}} {{Excerpt|article name|hat=no}} as below. Seems there are several other options to configure.

A pizza party is a social gathering at which pizza is served.[1][2][3]

Typically, a pizza that is 10 to 14 inches wide will feed two people.[4] Since pizzas can include a very wide variety of toppings, one particular type of pizza party allows the guests to create their own custom-made pizza, using a selection of ingredients from among the toppings provided by the party's host.[4]

When a pizza party does not include any custom-made pizzas, and the particular preferences of the guests are unknown, it is common to include at least one plain cheese-only and/or vegetable-only pizza for people who are averse to meats or other available toppings.[5]

Andre🚐 21:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That works. Thanks! -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 21:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now I need to get rid of the images that came along with it. Take a look at User:Valjean/sandbox. Feel free to play with that. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 21:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply] 
only=paragraphs
seems to do the job. Andre🚐 21:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks a lot. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 00:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "The pizza party". Teaching Children Mathematics. 22 (7): 398–400. March 2016. doi:10.5951/teacchilmath.22.7.0398. JSTOR 10.5951/teacchilmath.22.7.0398.
  2. ^ Saltiel, Jennifer (April 25, 2016). "How to Host a Make-Your-Own Pizza Party". Good Housekeeping. Retrieved August 9, 2016.
  3. ^ Chase, Chris (November 1, 2015). "Here's Roger Federer housing some pizza with ballkids". USA Today. Retrieved August 8, 2016.
  4. ^ a b Knudson, Pamela. "How to throw an awesome personal pizza party" Archived February 13, 2016, at the Wayback Machine, Grand Forks Herald (January 27, 2016).
  5. ^ Hulin, Belinda. The Everything Pizza Cookbook: 300 Crowd-Pleasing Slices of Heaven[permanent dead link], p. 13 (Everything Books, 2007).

Fresh NPP Reviewer of the month

New Reviewer Award

Awarded to Andrevan, for being the top reviewer for December 2023, among the new reviewers. - Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for all the work you've done to help with the backlog. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Dr vulpes! Much appreciated! Andre🚐 01:26, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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