User talk:Anomie/Archives/2014

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Happy New Year Anomie!

Happy New Year!

Hello Anomie:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Frze ^{> talk} 20:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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Bot for pages that transclude Template:Infobox settlement

For articles that use Template:Infobox settlement I found

that often coordinates exists in the page in Template:Coor but not in the Infobox, preventing display of a map [1] - a bot could here also check the field pushpin_map
the formatting of the template confusing, e.g.
- subdivision_name1 placed away from the other subdivision_-parameters [2]
- alignment of "=" only partial
- line breaks sometimes after, sometimes before |
the template sometimes called via "Infobox settlement", sometimes via "Infobox Settlement", making it show up split at Wikipedia:Database reports/Templates transcluded on the most pages as "340756" and "20131", hiding some of the importance it has. The real number is somewhere between 340756 and the 402,500 which is shown on the template page as "This template is used on 402,500+ pages.", since the latter may include transclusions. A bot could remove the redirects and then a more correct number for the infobox would be shown at the DB report page.
the value in the field settlement_type sometimes is linked, sometimes not.
many articles miss the template [3]

Probably with some bot work, this template could soon be directly included in 500000 article pages, and not so far on 1 million, as many places don't have a page in the English Wikipedia yet. Special tools could later be used to better exchange data with WikiData.

What to do first? I suggest working on

those ~1000 that use Infobox City and are from Spain [4]. Infobox City is a redirect to Infobox settlement. I checked several of these, and they have
- the pipe symbol not in front of the field name
- coordinates, but not in the Infobox
- ", Spain" appearing in the name field, which could be removed
- miss the field settlement_type and the value, so adding the field alone already saves edit time of editors
- One edit as example.
- have subdivision_...3 whilst that is the article itself

Androoox (talk) 10:19, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

You might want to take this to WP:BOTREQ instead. But I note the following:

The rearrangement of parameters, the alignment of =, and the positioning and indenting of | in template transclusions is generally considered cosmetic and not by itself a reason to edit the page. And even if other changes are being made at the same time, it generally needs a good consensus that this "cleanup" is actually desired and that the particular cleanup is what people want.
Redirects are not a problem. If an article transcludes a redirect, MediaWiki records it as both a transclusion of the redirect and of the redirect target. Which means that 340756 probably is the correct number.
Infoboxes are sometimes controversial, and bot-adding of infoboxes more so. You'd need consensus that adding a mostly-empty infobox to some set of articles is actually desired, plus botable criteria for identifying such articles.

HTH. Anomie ⚔ 12:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

No, that does not help. To move coordinate parameters and placement of | by hand is stupid. Also "Redirects are a problem", since as an article editor inside the edit box one does not see whether a template link is a redirect or refers to a different template. Furthermore from WikiData it is clear whether something is an article that is suited to have the Infobox settlement, if in WikiData it is a village, city, province etc. Androoox (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Hope all is well,

Could you give the CHUUclerk a shove? Thanks! –xeno^talk 16:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Apparently something in 1.23wmf9 changed how MediaWiki handled passing an empty username to list=usercontribs. This should fix things for the moment. Anomie ⚔ 18:13, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I think that might've been my fix'en of that req. Thanks for finding the error! –xeno^talk 16:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

No, it was this edit not by you. Anomie ⚔ 18:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

EthicalBot BRFA

I'm on mobile now. Since I value your and other's comments, I ask you to close the BRFA as withdrawn by candidate instead of speedy decline. By the way, can I make 20 edits with the bot software and then review it after the edits are done with my primary account? Thanks. Ethically ^(Yours) 17:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

No, the bot account may not edit articles without being approved to make those edits. You may make edits that were prepared by the bot software from your own account (User:Ethically Yours) if you first review each one and make sure that it is a good edit (i.e. don't blindly hit "save"). Anomie ⚔ 20:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

exceptions

Hi,

How do i get Anomie (not sure which bot) to not do this?[5]

— kwami (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

That wasn't a bot. That was Anomie the human. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that was me the human cleaning up a problem you caused by copying-and-pasting a template into the article. I won't revert your reverts, but remember that the reason we have maintenance templates is to avoid confusing less-technical users by putting large blobs of code in the article like that. At the very least, go fix the fact that all those articles are back in Category:Articles with invalid date parameter in template. Anomie ⚔ 13:01, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Okay, fixing the dates. I'll be happy to use the template if it will support what we need to say, that there's a commonly cited ref that's being used but is inadequate. — kwami (talk) 20:54, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Would it be acceptable to you if {{Refimprove|reason=Blah blah blah.}} displayed text along the lines of "This article needs additional citations for verification. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Blah blah blah. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed.", or something along those lines? Anomie ⚔ 00:38, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that nearly everyone will come up with the same source, and since it's UNESCO, people tend to think it's reliable. I wanted a specific warning that Unesco is not reliable, and that we need to confirm it with independent sources. — kwami (talk) 00:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a user manual, Nordic Walking

Hello Anomie!

You recently deleted my edits done to the Nordic Walking wikipedia article. What I wanted to point out was that, these are the first academic materials of nordic walking ever to have existed. I put them up there, because there seems to be quite a lot of controversy surrounding the origin of nordic walking. With no materials to see, how can people rely on the claim made? I mean, yes, they are available in Finnish, but I took the time to translate them. Is there anyway we could still use those? Perhaps under Mauri Repo's Wiki article or in some other manner? A redirect somewhere? Thank you in advance, 90.191.79.11 (talk) 13:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Forgot that I hadn't logged in. KMuuli (talk) 13:40, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

The edits I reverted were adding a large quantity of "how to do Nordic Walking" information that doesn't really have a place in Wikipedia. If you are faithfully translating a source that is available under an appropriately free license, you may want to look at Wikisource; I'd suggest starting with Wikisource:Copyright policy to see if your source qualifies. Anomie ⚔ 18:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

So this https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hiihdon_lajiosa is the solution I derived from the information you gave me. Do you think it will hold? Also, I'm having some trouble redirecting it from Wikipedia to Wikisource.KMuuli (talk) 10:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Edittools

Hi Anomie,

Could you make the two changes I requested at the bottom of the talk page? It's been a month, and no-one's responded.

Thanks, — kwami (talk) 00:12, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

smile :)

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Peace33756 (talk) 00:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Project tagging

I need all the new articles in categories (but not subcategories) listed at WP:CHIBOTCATS to be tagged with {{WikiProject Chicago}}.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks like that list needs some cleanup. Also, define "new articles" (is that just "any article not already tagged"?), and specify whether you want assessments copied from any other projects' banners. Anomie ⚔ 01:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by cleanup? Yes new articles means untagged articles in these categories (but not subcategories)? Yes auto-assess when possible? Also is it possible to check and make sure that no article has FA, GA or FL in other tags and not ours?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I think we both forgot about this conversation. Let's get back to it.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:22, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

If I don't here from you by the end of the weekend, I will seek another person to perform this task.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:47, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

That might be best, I've been busy lately (since about 24 hours after my first reply). But what I meant by "cleanup" was I saw a number of redlinks on the list when I looked at it originally. Anomie ⚔ 01:14, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

WP:Huggle

For your information: It could be that your commit broke Huggle's sensitive XML parsing attempts. ;-) See my github pull request for more information. Greetings --se4598 (talk) 21:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

... Ugh. You really shouldn't be parsing XML with regexes like that. Anomie ⚔ 23:04, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) ... Ugh. Why would anyone parse XML with regexes like that? — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 23:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Just wondering, are compiled regexes like that particularly fast in VB? I think Huggle 2 needs all the help it can get to keep up on slower computers. —SMALL JIM 15:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Implementing Extension:Variables with lua

I've managed to implement Extension:Variables in lua, in an admittedly hacky way. See Module:Sandbox/Jackmcbarn/variables. I assume this isn't desirable. Unstrip seems like the easy target to prevent this kind of thing, but I think the bigger problem is the fact that mw:Extension:Cite produces side effects (and I think is unique in this regard). Thoughts? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:50, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Interesting. This appears to use frame:extensionTag to call mw:Extension:Variables using some tricks that I don't understand and don't feel like studying at the moment. I have wondered whether it might be useful to add a global store to mw so templates/modules could set variables that can be used by later templates/modules and was going to suggest it as soon as I could think of a reason! The code which implements mw.loadData could possibly be extended so there is one read/write table per page, restricted to allow only numbers/strings as keys and "simple" values (numbers/strings, or perhaps a table of those). Johnuniq (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I think you meant to link to the Cite extension. This is duplicating the Variables extension without actually using it. This being able to exist is actually a bad thing, though. Side effects of parsing causes problems. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh—now I understand what that code is for! I agree it is possibly a problem. Johnuniq (talk) 03:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, ugh. Anomie ⚔ 04:11, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

This seems fundamental for Lua to be able to have ref tags and get reflists based on them. What is so bad about leaving this working? I should mention that unstrip is another very useful function - for example, in Module:Module overview to obtain the full list of Allpages for module space - hence my concern. Wnt (talk) 04:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Novel idea, why don't we just get consensus and enable Extension:Variables on this wiki? — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 12:51, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

The point is that it shouldn't have been possible for me to write that, because having that possibility breaks things. Jackmcbarn (talk) 12:59, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, having refs dumped onto a page has always been a bit problematic, even simply editing a talk page where a references header tends to pick up stray refs. In Lua there's a particular weirdness addressed in Module:Arguments where just looking at a parameter that contains a ref tag causes the reference to be cited at the end, which easily results in a ghost reference at the end of the article. If you can picture a fundamental fix in mind that replaces the cite extension's handling of these things throughout the wiki I can see the appeal, but I wouldn't want someone looking to cripple Lua while leaving the underlying situation as it is. Wnt (talk) 13:47, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I filed T63268 to track this. Let's continue any relevant conversation there. Anomie ⚔ 15:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

mw.message methods

Why did you OK the removal of the mw.message methods? There were all sorts of cool uses for these - figuring out the size of a file thumbnail image so you could build HTML around it, getting Wikidata pages, and deliberately avoiding page reparsing, for example. There were more ideas I meant to try out with it... [6]

Honestly, I can't shake the feeling that trying to figure out a way to do anything useful at all with Wikidata is some kind of crime, and this is the punishment for trying. Wnt (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The "cool uses" of them you mention were exactly why they were removed. They had all sorts of unintended side effects, such as allowing unlimited expensive parser function calls. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:35, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

If you're talking about expensive parser function calls on the page being read, well ... you're getting the old cached version when the function is run anyway. So those calls shouldn't be counted; it's not cheating, but genuine efficiency. Wnt (talk) 20:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I not only approved their removal, I suggested it in the first place. As Jackmcbarn said, these were removed because they had negative consequences—besides the unlimited expensive parser functions, they also prevented updating of the links tables (so Special:WhatLinksHere would be broken) and various other issues. If you want to access Wikidata, ask the relevant people if you can help get T49930 solved so you can do it correctly rather than with hacks. Anomie ⚔ 00:49, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, it's been a very long time that nothing's been done there. And since I'm not really a Wikidata user, and have written stuff like Module:MapClip, it was actually the ability to get image size by viewing the parsed page data that seemed most useful to me. The slightly imperfect solution seems better than awaiting developments. Wnt (talk) 04:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

In particular, it is Module:FileData that has been rendered inoperative. I hadn't pictured this module having much use except on pages that linked to the file anyway. Wnt (talk) 13:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Interestingly, Flow also apparently breaks WhatLinksHere. For example, the test case Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Breakfast has not been listed as a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Breakfast/Tabbed header. At the rate things seem to be going with it, I'm thinking you may have little disagreement should you decide to disable that... Wnt (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sadly the Flow people decided T59512 wasn't important enough to block the deployment. Anomie ⚔ 02:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

OAuth on MediaWiki

Hi Anomie! Can you review my request (Nullzerobot) at mediawiki.org? Thank you :) --Nullzero (talk) 17:54, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

AnomieBOT being admirably persistent at Encyclopedia Dramatica

Hi Anomie. You probably want to take a look at AnomieBOT's entries on the spam blacklist for the Encyclopedia Dramatica article today. I imagine that is probably more persistent than you would want AnomieBOT to be. Not sure what the cause is, but it's occurring once every couple of weeks or so on various articles, and seems to stop after a few hours, or after 40-50 attempts. I've denied AnomieBOT from the Encyclopedia Dramatica article to stop the immediate problem; as the attempts seem to stop after a few hours, I'll remove the {{bots}} template tomorrow if you don't get to it first. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:14, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I didn't know we had an on-wiki log for spamblacklist hits. I'll have to put in some sort of handling to avoid flooding that. The reason it stops after a few hours is that I see the bot's notice at User talk:AnomieBOT (e.g. Special:Diff/597749841/598071056) and remove the blacklisted link, or someone else does it for me. Anomie ⚔ 13:04, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Clean up requested

I wonder if you could use your magic to clean up zh:维基百科:AutoWikiBrowser/Dated templates and zh:维基百科:AutoWikiBrowser/Template redirects. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:14, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

The first is at Special:PermanentLink/598098932. I don't have a script ready-made for the latter. Anomie ⚔ 12:33, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I can try working manually for the latter. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

gerrit:99797

Why does PPFrame::getTitle() return a string instead of a Title object, and would it break too much to change it at this point? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

User Identifier

Hello, I'm Anupmehra. I was just wondering if {{User:Anomie/useridentifier.js}} would be working on Modern skin as well? Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

@Anupmehra: Why not just try it and see? Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:43, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Jackmcbarn- I'm trying it. I just feel insecure with javascripts. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 23:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't know, I haven't tested it there. I don't see any reason it shouldn't, though. Anomie ⚔ 11:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Avoiding calls from mw.message back into PHP

Would it be a good idea to rework the mw.message Scribunto library to only call into PHP to fetch message text (and not at all if newRawMessage is used), doing things like parameter substitution within Lua? I see a performance gain, but I'm worried about duplicating code. If it's a good idea, I'll code it up. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:03, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

That would be a fair bit of code duplication, as it would have to duplicate and keep up to date with Message::extractParam. And IIRC, a call from Lua to PHP in LuaSandbox costs about the same in CPU time as a call from Lua to another Lua function (although retesting that could be helpful). I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, but there would have to be enough of a positive to counterbalance the code-duplication negative. Anomie ⚔ 11:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 13#Section editing reflinks idea

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 13#Section editing reflinks idea. This is an idea that I think may interest you and would love to hear your feedback on. Thanks! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 16:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Found you a live example for bug 61953

Sorry, I'm not on IRC, but I just came across Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Escalon Medical, which has the problem described at bugzilla:61953 - and still had it after I edited the page. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

That's the problem with this bug: I just looked, and it's no longer showing the issue. Anomie ⚔ 17:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Found another: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffrey Scaperrotta. I'll let you know if I come across any others as well. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 04:05, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Which templatelinks was that page missing? ... Or are you telling me it was missing the templatelink from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2014 March 18 to that page? I did see the latter, then I did a null edit (more or less) on the March 18 page and it was fixed, so no luck debugging there 😞. Anomie ⚔ 13:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

My method of checking wasn't as scientific as that. I tried to relist the discussion with User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js, and it failed in the way described at User talk:Mr.Z-man#closeAFD stopped relisting. I then made a dummy edit to the page and tried again, and it still failed, so I posted here. I tried again as I was typing this message, and it has now relisted successfully. Should I have made a dummy edit to the log, rather than the AfD page? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok, brain is now engaged, and I can see that the answer to that last question is "yes". :P I'll actually do a null edit on the log page next time. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:11, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Anomiebot III

Hi Anomie, I just noticed that your bot, User:AnomieBOT III, changes redirects to other language versions (which doesn't work) into soft redirects. The task was approved and the example I found was done correctly, so no complaints there, but such soft redirects are strongly discouraged. Per the lead of Wikipedia:Soft redirect: "Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they will generally be unhelpful to English-language readers." I thnk it would be better if you changed it to e.g. a proposed deletion or something similar, like I have now done at Gaspar de Bono and Damaso Pio De Bono. Fram (talk) 13:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I see the former was already turned into a real article. I wouldn't be opposed to the bot doing this, but I'd like to see a discussion on WP:VPR showing that people actually want it done by a bot (rather than humans looking at Category:Wikipedia soft redirects) first. Anomie ⚔ 23:43, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

OK, now at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 110#Proposal to automatically ProD redirects to other language versions of wikipedia, instead of turhing them into soft redirects. Fram (talk) 07:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Anomie ⚔ 11:29, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Script instructions and monobook.js

Should the comments in your userscripts be updated to mention vector.js since it has been the wikipedia default since 2010 (or at least Special:MyPage/skin.js which will link to whatever skin the user is using)? As it is, it can be confusing for powerusers that started here after the switch away from monobook. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:54, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

shiroikabe

Should the comments in your userscripts be updated to your program.I am happy. Tank you.--shiroikabe 10:05, 11 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiroikabe (talk • contribs) Tank you --shiroikabe 10:32, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

BOT Request

Hi Anomie, I have requested for a bot to cleanup the Tamil wiki articles, I didn't get any reply regarding the same, to whom I can approach for the same? Thanks!--Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 09:45, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

AnomieBOT doesn't clerk DRV

For some reason AnomieBOT hasn't update the two DRV subpages in the last 2 days, and the task status on Labs says "job missing". Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 10:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Restarted (looks like it died for out-of-memory). Thanks for pinging me about it. Anomie ⚔ 13:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Request assistance with Wikipedia:High-risk images

Hello Anomie,

I was doing some research on WP:CSD criterion, and noticed that one of the criterion, CSD F8, had a link to Wikipedia talk:Cascade-protected items#About high-risk images explaining what a "High-risk image" is. Since this links to a section on a talk page, this isn't really an official community-approved process, and if the page gets archived, the link will eventually be broken. What I have done is the following:

Copied the section Wikipedia talk:Cascade-protected items#About high-risk images over to a new page: Wikipedia:High-risk images.
Placed a {{Brainstorming}} tag on Wikipedia:High-risk images until the guideline is further developed.

I'm informing you of this as you were one of the participants in Wikipedia talk:Cascade-protected items#About high-risk images. As I'm not a complete expert in the field of high-risk images, any assistance you may be able to provide in hopefully writing Wikipedia:High-risk images into a policy that can be accepted by consensus would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 17:51, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Updates to User:Anomie/useridentifier.js

I added massmessage-sender and some global rights, seems to work fine, and I assume you're okay with this modification. Side note... I just discovered User:Anomie/ajaxpreview.js. Holy cow! I also love your link classifier and user identifier, but this ajax preview in particular needs to be installed as a gadget. Not being able to see the refs when previewing is a common frustration. The heck with the gadget, merge this into core! Shall I make a proposal at WP:GP? Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:21, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, looks correct although I haven't explicitly tested it yet. Feel free to make the gadget proposal if you want, although I'm going through a wikibreak phase at the moment and probably won't do a whole lot if anything needs doing. Anomie ⚔ 13:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

BAG assistance needed

Hi, there is an ongoing discussion at the moment at WP:ANI#User:Werieth_runs_unapproved_bot. Maybe you are interested to join it. Thanks. 90.163.54.9 (talk) 20:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Why is code in mw.lua running twice?

When I add the following code to the end of mw.lua (right above "return mw"):

countInGlobal = (countInGlobal or 0) + 1
string.countInString = (string.countInString or 0) + 1
math.countInMath = (math.countInMath or 0) + 1

and I check the values of those variables, countInGlobal is 1, which makes sense, but string.countInString and math.countInMath are both 2, which doesn't. Do you know why this is? The only way I can see that happening is if all of mw.lua runs twice, but I'm not sure why this would happen, or why string and math would be preserved but globals wouldn't be. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:18, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Apparently whatever is running it twice is preserving the built-in globals but not globals defined in the file itself. I suspect this could happen if Scribunto_LuaSandboxEngine is instantiated twice. Anomie ⚔ 11:31, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

File:Flag of Sweden.svg

Would you mind please updating the file with the new colours set to the Commons file? We found a government source on the official shades of blue and yellow. Fry1989 ^eh? 21:20, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

@Fry1989: Anomie's on a wikibreak, so he probably won't get around to this any time soon. You might get a better response at Wikipedia:SVG help. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 21:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Sleep state misperception

AnomieBOT is edit warring with me over Sleep state misperception. AnomieBOT can't read the talk page as a human can, please check Talk:Sleep state misperception#Ann Finkbeiner before letting the bot add a fact template. Proxima Centauri (talk) 15:11, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

The bot's not adding the template; it's adding a date to it. If you actually remove the template, it won't put it back. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Removing API formats

Max made an RFC, pls take a look. [7]. Thx! --Yurik (talk) 01:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Language with name

Any thoughts on Template talk:Language with name#Suggestion: An optional literal translation? Yaris678 (talk) 16:21, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

template:prose

Lower to semi-protection? It is transcluded by less than 3,000 pages. I requested template-protection for similar reason on template:in-universe, but it was declined. --George Ho (talk) 16:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Why ask me? Take it to WP:RFPP. Anomie ⚔ 11:20, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

AnomieBOT

It looks like some AnomieBOT tasks have errors, and doesn't work currently. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 14:41, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Looks like the shared database ran out of memory, so queries failed, so the tasks were stopped. Restarted them. Anomie ⚔ 15:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 17:10, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Some tasks have "errored" out. Could you restart them? Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 05:55, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Shared database again. Anomie ⚔ 11:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

The same as before. Some tasks errored out. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 10:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Database again. Restarted. Thanks for the ping! Anomie ⚔ 11:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

gerrit

Thaks for re-acculturating me. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 14:52, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Bug in 'Sandbox' link colouring

Hi Anomie. I believe you were the author of MediaWiki:Gadget-mySandbox.js? I've just posted a bug report about it at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Bug_in_.27Sandbox.27_link_colouring (permanent link) - your input would be appreciated. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Unnecessary code

Is the line | subst = <includeonly>{{subst:substcheck}}</includeonly> unnecessary in templates Ambox and Fix if {{ {{{|safesubst:}}}#invoke:Unsubst||$N=Current |date=__DATE__ |$B= etc.}}</includeonly> is used? Debresser (talk) 17:37, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Probably, yes. Anomie ⚔ 19:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

unwatch.js

Thank you!!!! It's fantastic!!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome! Anomie ⚔ 11:21, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

+1 for this. That's a nice script! — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 13:39, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Just wondering, is there a script to make the whole left side column narrow and tiny font? It takes up so much space. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:08, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Not that I know of, sorry. Anomie ⚔ 11:21, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Persisting problem

I would really appreciate some help on this issue of mine as it's really bugging me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nick_B._947#Finding_my_userpage_by_searching

I've just changed my username again but still my issue pertains. My old usernames "Nick B 1993" and "Nick B 1994" still auto-suggest but my previous username "Lofty Londoner Nick B." and my current username never do. I'm told you are somebody who can quite possibly solve this issue for me once and for all. I apologise in advance if this inconveniences you.

Surely something can be done to sort out this evident technical issue at hand.

Nick B. 947 (talk) 21:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Try enabling "New search" in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't know what anyone did, whether anything was done or indeed what happened at all but my problem has now been resolved and I thank anyone who made this happen.

Nick B. 947 (talk) 12:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

745th Tank Bn

Brad: thanks for fixing the dates on the 745th page. Adam Daley (a military history coordinator, no less!) came in and manually changed most (but by no means all) dates from d M Y to M d, Y. Sloppy AND inconsistent. Glad your bot could change it back to the way it was, and probably with far less effort than manually changing it back would have been--short of reverting to the earlier version. Thanks, Again. Greg Bilhartz (talk) 03:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

AnomieBOT does not change dates. It appears that was done in the previous edit. Anomie ⚔ 10:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

TFDClerk

Hi Anomie. Could you stop AnomieBOT from adding the "metadata" class to TfD pages when it creates the daily log? This has been creating problems on mobile view, and also with T13bot, which has been removing the class from old log pages. See here for an example where they are reverting each other, and here for the VPT thread. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

See User talk:AnomieBOT/Archive 7#Bot warring. Note the one being "warred" over is the navigation header at the top, not the closed discussions. Anomie ⚔ 01:55, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. I'll remember to check the bot's talk page as well next time. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 02:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Can you please adjust the bot to not leave the extra whitespace at the top of each daily section? -- Netoholic @ 21:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the space between the category and the comment, which seems to give the same output as in your edit. The other bit of whitespace seems like it would be more problematic, so I'm not going to mess with it. Anomie ⚔ 12:24, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

ajaxpreview.js

Noticed the script stopped working recently. I don't know the actual root of the problem, but a simple patch was to set the default for txt in getRefs2 to be a blank string, as it is sometimes undefined and txt.replace(...) will throw an error. Just letting you know! Thanks for all the awesome scripts :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

It's usually better to find the root of the problem than to just hack around it. Anomie ⚔ 11:45, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Super late reply... Anyway for the record I agree it's of course better to fix the real problem, I just didn't know how. Thing is that I rely heavily on many of your scripts. When they stop working, my work suffers :) Hopefully you'll be okay with me making temporary patches like that moving forward? I would certainly let you know of any changes. Many thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:00, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Fixes are appreciated, if you don't mind that I might do the same in the future as I did here. (: Anomie ⚔ 21:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi!

Oh, hi Anomie! How are you with editing on Wikipedia? --Allen ^{(talk to me! / ctrb / E-mail me)} 16:02, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to move pronunciations and other info from lead

I'm posting here to follow up on the recent Village Pump discussion, archived here, to move pronunciations and other info out of article lead sections. I'm inviting editors who participated in that discussion to comment on the Manual of Style:Lead section guideline. If you would like to participate, please add your comments to the discussion. Cheers! Ivanvector (talk) 19:57, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for inviting me at Penguin Cabal as per your suggestions I have added topicon on my userspace.— CutestPenguin^Hangout 17:43, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

OAuth Hello World

Hi Anomie,

I'm just reading and playing around with OAuth and found your OAuth Hello World script, which seems very helpful to me. However, after having authorized the script and trying to do a post through the script (second link) I get an internal server error. The same problem occurs with the "enduser" version. Would you like to have a look over it? It would be very helpful to me to have a working example script. Thanks a lot, cheers from Germany, Yellowcard (talk) 11:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

It looks like something is not right with HHVM and OAuth, or else with OAuth and testwiki. I'll have to follow up with one of the developers working on that. Anomie ⚔ 13:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Anomie! Do you think you could give me a short hint on my German talk page when it's fixed? Thanks again, Yellowcard (talk) 12:08, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Anomie, is there any news on that? Yellowcard (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I haven't heard anything. I think that the "internal server error" has been fixed, but in a quick test I'm not getting things to work at the moment. Anomie ⚔ 12:36, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

AnomieBOT MIA

You'd probably notice anyway this when you get back, but just to be sure, a dozen or so of AnomieBOT's tasks are showing up as "job missing" on its status page and haven't run since late on the 26th. —Cryptic 13:28, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

For example, the bot failed to create Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2014 November 28. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:11, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

I happened to upload a code change yesterday, which restarted it. Anomie ⚔ 15:03, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

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Discussion regarding Template:Rating

Hi! I noticed from the template's talk page history that you seemed like an involved editor there who may have an opinion on a discussion going on at WP:ALBUMS about rendering ratings. Would you care to weigh in here? Dan56 (talk) 06:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

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Happy editing,
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ajaxpreview

Hi! Back again, this time with a recommendation. I'm not sure where to put it in the code, but after the preview is loaded, you could run mw.hook( 'wikipage.content' ).fire($("#wikiPreview")) to re-initialize other relevant scripts that interact with page content – namely pop-ups. This way you can still get the hover previews on all the links. Best and thanks again for the awesome script! :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 03:22, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Should be done, although I haven't tested. Anomie ⚔ 14:26, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear Anomie/Archives,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! A new year has come! How times flies! 2015 will be a new year, and it is also a chance for you to start afresh! Thank you for your contributions!
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previewtemplatelastmod.js on other sites

Hi, does User:Anomie/previewtemplatelastmod.js work on other sites? I tried installing it on Welsh Wikipedia, but it doesn't do anything; see cy:Defnyddiwr:Redrose64/common.js. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:18, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Red. You can't use importScript to call scripts from interwiki sites. It only works locally.

/* Present "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page" with date/time of last edit, and list in reverse chronological order */
mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Anomie/previewtemplatelastmod.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); // Linkback: [[:en:User:Anomie/previewtemplatelastmod.js]]

Should do what you want, although you will probably have to load the stylesheet separately. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 12:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)