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The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020

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The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020

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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced

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Your draft article, Draft:Stunts Green

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIV, October 2020

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The article Chelsea house collapse has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Proposing under WP:SUSTAIN, this is unlikely to be a significant event in the history of Chelsea. It has garnered news coverage due to its location in the nation's capital, but there were no injuries or fatalities and the houses are not listed. Numerous houses are destroyed and collapse due to accidents and gas explosions in the UK every year. No Swan So Fine (talk) 03:26, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

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Mark WikiProject Linux as inactive?

Hi! I was directed to your talk page by the participants list on WikiProject Linux. I've started a discussion whether we can keep it running, or mark it as inactive.– Abuluntu ( talk 06:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, sorry about the delay in replying - I meant to reply sooner, but I've been quite busy. Thanks for drawing my attention to the discussion. I think an effort should be made to keep it active or reactivate it, given the large area that the project covers and the areas it intersects with. Autarch (talk) 12:38, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your article on Joey Giambra

Autarch, I appreciate your Joey Giambra article. I started an article about him in January but it was removed for copyright reasons. I'm new to this but thought I had adequately attributed the links. I'm reticent to edit your article since I'm unclear of the guidelines and don't wish a repeat. Is there a way I can get a draft of my article to you? It fills in some blanks. Hope all is well in Ireland. Thanks again. MariaAnnelovesyou2MariaAnnelovesyou2 (talk) 03:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, December 2020

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021

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My apologies for any problems caused - I thought I had avoided exact quotation from that reference, but in trying to use terminology from the reference, I may have inadvertently reproduced sections of said reference. I will use the suggested link above to produce a new draft, keeping in mind to keep phrasing different. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Autarch (talk) 14:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021

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John Derbyshire

What's your objection to my edits? "They did not appear constructive" isn't constructive. I explained in the edit summary why I made those two edits; if you disagree, you should say why.

The books' existence doesn't need a citation; they attest to their own existence. I suppose one could cite the cover pages of the books, but that would be silly. Or, for the contents of Prime Obsession one could cite the book's table of contents, but again that would be silly. Still, if you like I could do that.

As for the characterization of VDARE as a white nationalist site, as you will see on its WP page that is not an established fact, it's an opinion that some people hold, and others (including its publisher) disagree with. So this page, which merely mentions it in passing, should not state it as if it were a fact. Using the term on this page is just a gratuitous swipe.

I will wait for your reply before reapplying my edits. If you like we can discuss it on the talk page. -- 24.90.77.69 (talk) 05:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Regarding VDARE, reliable sources such as the SPLC describe it in those terms. Note that Wikipedia relies on secondary sources where possible, so VDARE cannot be used as a source that it isn't white nationalist. (The founder is quoted as disputing that his organisation is white nationalist, but he has also appeared with alt-right figures.) Regarding books, reviews or mentions by reliable sources should suffice. Autarch (talk) 15:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, that doesn't make any sense. First, SPLC is not a reliable source. It's a political actor with an agenda and smears anyone it disagrees with. You can't cite its opinion as fact. Second, VDARE's opinion of itself is just as authoritative as anyone else's, and must be given equal consideration. That isn't a "primary source", in the sense that WP uses the term.
As for the books, they themselves are reliable sources for the fact that they exist and have the content their table of contents says they have. There's no need for them to be mentioned elsewhere. -- 24.90.77.69 (talk) 04:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Regarding SPLC, this discussion has happened before in WP:RSN, such as this one. If the SPLC does not suffice, then VDARE is linked to white nationalism here, here and here and to white supremacy here. Autarch (talk) 00:20, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Looking at WP:RSN SPLC is "considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States". It is qualified via "As an advocacy group, the SPLC is a biased and opinionated source. The organization's views, especially when labeling hate groups, should be attributed per WP:RSOPINION. Take care to ensure that content from the SPLC constitutes due weight in the article and conforms to the biographies of living persons policy." Using other WP:RS, such as the ones I cited above, should cover that in general.Autarch (talk) 13:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

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non-notable engineer who does not pass WP:GNG

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021

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to prove that I'm a spammer? You don't have a single proving! Minos Zakaria 12 (talk) 19:01, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean, unless you have edited under another username this is the first time we interacted. Autarch (talk) 22:16, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021

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I was looking for coverage of the Kevin Lunney kidnap case, found your article Kidnapping of Kevin Lunney, and was surprised to find the "Intimidation campaign" section at Mannok didn't link to the article or even mention the case. Eventually I discovered you'd written a new Quinn Industrial Holdings article in 2019, but it's the same company; they've just gone through several name changes. The Mannok article was started in 2007 at Quinn Group Limited; it appears to have been edited promotionally, and it doesn't lay out the history, yours is in many ways better, but it's the same company as shown by sources including Suzanne McGonagle (29 September 2020). "Quinn Industrial Holdings to be rebranded as Mannok". Irish News. (cited as a bare link at Mannok), and this BBC source on the sentences handed down a few days ago also gives Mannok as the new name of what was Quinn Industrial Holdings at the time of the kidnapping: Julian Fowler (20 December 2021). "Kevin Lunney: Questions remain over barbaric kidnap and attack". BBC News.. I tried clicking on the URL in the infobox at Quinn Industrial Holdings in case it was a division that the company had repurchased, but it asked to muck about with my browser. So I'm sorry to say I've redirected Quinn Industrial Holdings to Mannok. You might want to overwrite some of it with text from the history section of your article, adding the latest name change. Yngvadottir (talk) 11:00, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll get on to updating the Mannok article to include the material. Autarch (talk) 21:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021

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