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Re: History of Dell -- Thanks for your input[edit]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Pairwise Compatibility Graph has been accepted[edit]

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WP:AFC Helper News[edit]

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

  • AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
  • The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just letting you know that I reverted your revert of my replacing the short description here with None. In general, that's the accepted form for any article where the title is sufficiently descriptive that the short description doesn't help disambiguate it. See here for a brief conversation about this in the short description wikiproject. The genera guideline is at WP:SDNONE. Rusalkii (talk) 16:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusalkii: Thank you for the message -- I was not aware of WP:SDNONE so I learned something new! This policy makes perfect sense. Caleb Stanford (talk) 18:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the work on the article. Do you think there are any blockers for nominating it as a WP:GA? 0xDeadbeef 04:11, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@0xDeadbeef: Likewise, thank you for your work! Two things that stand out to me right now are the History section, which feels like it needs expansion and is not comprehensive, and the Performance section, which is important but a stub, and needs at least 2-3 paragraphs. In general, I think GA nomination would be great. Those are the two things I would personally try to get done first. Caleb Stanford (talk) 04:23, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing these out. I will work on them when I have time. 0xDeadbeef 06:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I should add that I don't know if those count as blockers, though -- I don't have prior experience with the GA nomination process and what standards are expected before a first nomination. I have previously only tried peer review which seems to suffer from poor availability of reviewers. Caleb Stanford (talk) 04:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've nominated it for review. I've read the policies in more detail and it looks to me that this is not simply a pass/fail but more like academic peer reviews. 0xDeadbeef 14:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, sounds good. Thanks. Caleb Stanford (talk) 15:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You reduced from top to high [1] with the comment 'bump importance top->high (less important than type system and type theory IMO, both currently high'.

I disagree with this relative assessment: semantics is more important than what is normally meant by type systems (i.e. an effective assignment of types to values or expressions), and the application of type theory to computer science is generally done within semantics. If you look at the history of the discipline, I think this becomes clear. — Charles Stewart (talk) 07:37, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chalst: Thanks for your input. If I can ask for your further opinion: in your judgment, is Semantics (computer science) one of the top 100-150 most important articles in computer science on Wikipedia, as listed at this page?
I've been pruning it down, and not sure which PL-related articles to include on the list. If there is a consensus, I might be happy with including all three of semantics, type systems, and type theory and bumping a couple of the other articles like Object-oriented programming and Functional programming down to high. One problem with the Semantics article is that it's less directly applicable to your average computer scientist or practitioner than type systems and programming paradigms. In other words, semantics as a topic of study is really specific to programming language theorists (even though it's arguably the foundation of all of computer science). I think the article also just needs to be expanded and improved. Caleb Stanford (talk) 18:06, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Another candidate for bumping down is Evaluation strategy. Caleb Stanford (talk) 18:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As someone more interested in history and theory than modern trends, a definite yes in my opinion to your first question. But I don't know that I am the person you want to ask: to give bearings, I'd rate Fortran and Algol higher than C++, Java, Javascript and Python, but that shows how I am less interested in what is "directly applicable to your average computer scientist or practitioner" than the people who generally do these assessments. I'd certainly rate Tony Hoare higher than Hoare logic.
The semantics article is not in a great state, but I don't think that should drive assessments: the point is not to showcase our best material, but to identify topics we are failing to do justice to. Few of the Vital 100 articles are decent, let alone have passed GA or FA review.
Before bumping down core ideas in programming like FP and OO I'd take a look at the amount of internet, AI, security, and trendy technologies listed there. Evaluation strategy isn't top importance, but neither IMO is Augmented reality. The exact count of articles in the category might be inflated because of closely related concepts getting individual articles: we have Computer science, Computational science, Computer engineering, Information science, and Theoretical computer science, all of which are demarcations of the study of computing with nebulous boundaries and lots of overlap. — Charles Stewart (talk) 19:30, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, your perspective makes sense. I'd be on board with swapping out Evaluation strategy for Semantics (computer science) (keeping FP and OOP at top), but I'd like to get some input from others first, particularly those outside of theory/PL. I totally agree that the quality of an article should not drive its assessment. I think there are certainly other articles that could bump down, but it's hard to say which without making it a political decision about which fields of CS are most important... for example, before I edited the list, it was very heavily theory, databases, PL, and cryptography focused, and there were no articles in many areas of systems and AI. Caleb Stanford (talk) 23:16, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Third opinion notification[edit]

I have requested for third opinion at Talk:Rust (programming language)#Name origin. Per guidelines I have to notify you in your talk page, although I think you might have already seen it. Happy editing! 0xDeadbeef 23:06, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TRW[edit]

I worked for TRW from 1965 to 1970. That's why I have pictures of the buildings. They were new at the time. I did not know Buie, but have done a major copy edit for improvements on his article. I renominated it GAN. My job there was an an electronics technician. Made really good money.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. That's very cool! :) I think the article is in better shape after your thorough edit pass. Best of luck with further edits. Caleb Stanford (talk) 22:16, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes[edit]

Hello there! Thanks for the prompt revert on the Yes article, but Squire wasn't an original member of Mabel Greer. The group's own article indicates that first line-up was Bayley, Hagger, and Rutledge. Squire and Banks joined the group later on. LowSelfEstidle (talk) 18:45, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Did you check the reference? It says Squire formed it in January 1968. So not sure how to resolve this inconsistency. I could look a bit more into the source if I obtain a real copy, I was working on excerpts provided by Google Books... Caleb Stanford (talk) 20:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the full quote:

In January 1968 Chris Squire put together a new band called Mabel Greer's Toyshop. Says Peter, "I think he was going to call the band Yes instead of Mabel Greer's Toyshop. And I said he couldn't do that because it was my idea. I had thought of the name Yes a couple of years beforehand.

May be an error in the source? Caleb Stanford (talk) 20:38, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC second opinion[edit]

Caleb, an article, Draft:Decatur Tribune, that I drafted and submitted for review in Articles for creation was declined by Afc reviewer User:Idoghor Melody on 6 June 2022. Idoghor suggested that I get a second opinion. See discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Idoghor_Melody/Archive_2#RE_Draft:Decatur_Tribune I have subsequently made significant improvements and now I kindly ask that after reviewing this discussion that you might render your opinion. I posted a request on the AfC help page on 28 June, but I have had no reply. BuffaloBob (talk) 23:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BuffaloBob, it looks reasonable to me but I'm afraid I have no expertise in the area. Maybe ask someone who has written/reviewed other newspaper Wiki pages? Best regards, Caleb Stanford (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
P. S. Did you add the current references after the submission was declined? I see it now has 7, not sure how many there were before. Caleb Stanford (talk) 23:56, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I added 5 more references. Numbers 2 & 6 were the only references when I first submitted it. I have tried to find an AfC reviewer with newspaper experience but the only one that I could find is User:Newslinger, and he has not been online since April. I don't see that Idoghor has any more experience with newspaper articles than you. What is the process if I resubmit it? Will Idoghor be the reviewer? BuffaloBob (talk) 01:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Caleb Stanford and @BuffaloBob: Only 2 sources were there when I declined, now it's 7, better than before. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 11:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rust Optimization[edit]

See "https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=release&edition=2018" Rust ordering for improved performance is definitely a "thing" and dramatically improves performance over C/C++ in many cases because of this feature of the language. This example would probably be considered WP:OR but if we can find a source that mentions it that would be good. War (talk) 19:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the playground link, what does this show? I think you want to print the raw memory at THREE_AM to see what it contains.
I did like mentioning something about this and was sorry to see it go. If I have a chance I'll loop back to this and see if some textbooks reference it. I only quickly scanned, but didn't find a discussion on reordering fields at the page you linked. Caleb Stanford (talk) 20:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The playground link shows nothing because it does not include a gist parameter. What you saw when you clicked on that link was your latest submission to playground, which has something to do with THREE_AM? 0xDeadbeef 07:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah of course, that explains it. LOL Caleb Stanford (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ya. I mucked it up. Now I know about shared links. This is what I should have shared, "https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=release&edition=2018&gist=7f109748e08e73b5df140265852fe8ae" War (talk) 03:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting function names sensibly[edit]

Hi Caleb! Hope your assistant professorship is going well.

Was working on mmap and I realized there's some disagreement over the best way to format standard functions. Which of these is most pleasing to you?

In computing, mmap(2) is a POSIX-compliant Unix system call that maps files or devices into memory. When no longer in use, memory-mapped pointers should be unmapped with munmap(2). Some malloc implementations use mmap internally.

In computing, mmap(2) is a POSIX-compliant Unix system call that maps files or devices into memory. When no longer in use, memory-mapped pointers should be unmapped with munmap(2). Some malloc implementations use mmap internally.

In computing, mmap(2) is a POSIX-compliant Unix system call that maps files or devices into memory. When no longer in use, memory-mapped pointers should be unmapped with munmap(2). Some malloc implementations use mmap internally.

Personally I like the third best, followed by the second. The rectangles in the first are very annoying, but this style seems to be most common ([2] for example). Thoughts? Ovinus (talk) 04:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks! :)
I also prefer 3 the most, followed by 1, then 2. But I think I value consistency across articles over this particular choice. Is there a reason 1 is used on all the other articles? I don't suppose there's some published standard for this? Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer science would be a good place to ask. Caleb Stanford (talk) 08:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Yes (band)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Yes (band)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Yes (band)[edit]

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Ways to improve List of Yes appearances[edit]

Hello, Caleb Stanford,

Thank you for creating List of Yes appearances.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

I'm not seeing how this would help. If they are appearing as the band then it can be listed at Yes discography for Other appearances. Same with the spinoff groups.

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@AngusWOOF: Thank you for the feedback -- I'll raise an issue for discussion at Talk:Yes (band). Caleb Stanford (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of Yes appearances moved to draftspace[edit]

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@Onel5969: Well, thanks, but this is not content I created, but content moved from another page where it didn't fit. I will simply move the content to another page instead. Unreferenced is not the same as not verifiable (WP:THENFIXIT). Caleb Stanford (talk) 20:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Yes (band)[edit]

On 26 November 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yes (band), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that given a choice between Life and World, the answer was Yes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yes (band). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Yes (band)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Nice work[edit]

Good work on turning Donald X. Vaccarino into an article. Do you see anything else at User:BOZ/Draft pages that you might have the sources to help bring back into article space? (That's only about half of the designers pages I know of that have been deleted/redirected, if you really want a project to tackle.) BOZ (talk) 01:22, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the positive sentiment! I don't think I have time to tackle these other articles at the moment, but I hope someone does -- this seems like a space where a lot more names deserve their own article. Caleb Stanford (talk) 02:15, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays[edit]

Happy Holidays
Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 01:59, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Happy holidays :) Caleb Stanford (talk) 06:02, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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It would be helpful if you could provide the specific article! I searched and searched and couldn't find it. Caleb Stanford (talk) 16:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:List of Yes appearances[edit]

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A new article you might have improvements for? Skyerise (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Caleb. I work for LastPass, a password management tool. I have disclosed my affiliation with LastPass and requested impartial editors review what I see as major neutrality and citation issues here. I saw that you have an interest in computer security and was hoping you might be willing to review my comments and make any appropriate changes. Since I have a conflict of interest, I shouldn’t be editing any of these controversies/criticisms myself, but I can answer questions, do legwork, or provide any assistance. Thanks AmyMarchiando (talk) 19:14, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gödel Lecturers has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Help making edits to the IdeaPad page[edit]

Hi. I work for Lenovo, the manufacturer of IdeaPad. The current IdeaPad page has about 30+ sections and sub-sections about individual products. A lot of the information is out-dated, incomplete, etc. I was hoping to replace it with a single product table, similar to what is currently on the ThinkPad page. I've been following up for months and got plenty of support from impartial editors (I think), but the page still has 30+ sections on individual products. I was wondering if you would be willing to take a look and see if you agree RE slimming it down? Let me know if there is any way I can be more helpful. Best regards. StuartGill (talk) 15:09, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]