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...is back. See also my response at my user talk. De728631 (talk) 19:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Ahoy.

I've been reading over your talk page and I've been astounded by your replies. I'm not really sure how to explain it, you literally glow with a positive and educated edge, does that make sense? Anyway, given this I'm glad you're one of the OTRS Team. So here's a barnstar for being so incredible.

Y'all take care now. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 23:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Italian dialects

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Copy edit tag on La Luz del Mundo

Hi there. In this edit you added a {{copy edit}} tag to the article on La Luz del Mundo Church with the reason "article includes statements based on a point of view that lacks neutrality". From my understanding, copy editing is for grammar, spelling, and style not for neutrality issues. I have removed the tag, but could you have a look at the article? If the article still has issues please provide a detailed explanation of your concerns in the talk page so that the problem can be addressed. Thank you. Ajaxfiore (talk) 17:28, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Hey there Ajaxfiore! Thanks for contacting me. Copy editing is much more than what you assume it to be. The tag was actually placed correctly, while a neutrality tag could certainly have been an alternate choice. It is not required to make a comment on the talk page, really, unless further clarification is requested. There is currently ample discussion on the talk page pertaining to this issue. I have no desire to become involved in the ongoing, long-term edit war of this article. In all honesty, I would recommend before removing the maintenance tag, in the future, if you have questions, please make an attempt to communicate with the editor who placed the tag and request clarification. Otherwise, it could just result in another pile-on member of the edit war. Who needs that? At this point, I am fine with you removing the template, since the issues I was concerned with have been or are being addressed. There are currently other editors working to bring neutrality to this article and I am confident in their ability to do so. Hope you have a great weekend! Best regards, Cindy(talk) 23:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I apologize for being too bold in removing the tag, it is not my intention to start an edit, I wish to leave all angry disputes behind. I will take your advice into consideration and also read Wikipedia policies for clarification on copy editing. Since February the other two editors have been essentially absent from the article, in fact one has completely vanished, leaving me as the only editor making significant contributions to the article. I wanted to know specific problems to address before I go on an editing break myself. I plan to work a little on the "Demography" section before leaving. Ajaxfiore (talk) 02:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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howard moss (musician)

Dear Cindy, Hope you can help me as I am on a learning curve. Irish singer songwriter Howard Moss is well known in Europe & has had significant chart success. He has a new album out now of original songs. Hopefully he'll become famous in the States too. Is the article okay? Please can you develop it further? references official Irish charts found on http://irishcharts.ie/search/placement Title: DELILAH Artist: HOWARD MOSS Label: TEL Date of entry: 29.06.1995 Highest Placement: 11 Weeks in the Charts: 5 Title: SALLY FORTH (EP) Artist: HOWARD MOSS Label: TEL RECORDS Date of entry: 02.06.1994 Highest Placement: 18 Weeks in the Charts: 1 Stevieweymark (talk) 12:05, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Hi Stevie! I took at look at the article and attempted to source and expand it. While it is clear that he had two works on the Irish Charts, there is sadly, minimal significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The article was previously deleted due to the inability to establish notability based on this lack. Rather than submitting the article directly to AFC as you have done, I have copied and expanded your draft at User:Stevieweymark/Howard Moss (musician). This is by no means an endorsement or statement that the article is ready for the mainspace. Please spend some time searching for sources to help verify notability. It is not required that these sources exist solely online. Offline sources are perfectly fine. Search in books, magazines, journals, newspapers, whatever you can get your hands on. We're looking for significant reliable and independent sources. It won't help if Moss himself states that he is the "cat's meow", per se, we need someone else to say it. Yes, the Irish Charts website does support the claims made, but this is not significant coverage. And the bandcamp profile is not independent of Moss. At the same time, we don't want to promote his (as yet unreleased) album, which is sourced to the bandcamp profile. Hope this helps. If you have additional questions, feel free to ask. Hope you have a great weekend! Cindy(talk) 16:57, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

2 Miley Cyrus photos with odd or incomplete licenses

Hi, can you look at these two photos of Miley Cyrus (one is now used in her infobox, the other is for some reason tucked on the same file page but unused): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Miley_Cyrus_2012.jpg. I just now ran into them because someone on the Talk page wanted an updated infobox photo and I was curious about the existing one. The 2013 photo with short hair seems to have been very recently uploaded and "self-licensed" but is unclear or incomplete. The 2012 photo with long hair doesn't have any licensing info that I can see; where is the license? And why is the 2013 photo stuck onto the same file page? Mysteries. Softlavender (talk) 00:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

  • The license is at Flickr. As far as the file, it looks like simple vandalism, with someone preferring a different image over the other. You can go ahead and report it over there. Cindy(talk) 02:28, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Done, thanks. Softlavender (talk) 02:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

BAYADA entry

Hi - I noticed you tagged my entry BAYADA Home Health Care a few weeks ago with the notability, orphan and primary sources tags. Two weeks ago, I started a talk page and edited the entry to address your concerns. Specifically, I replaced several primary sources with third party sources, added a couple of incoming references from other Wikipedia entries, and added additional information to support the company's inclusion on Wikipedia, such as how it has over 250 offices and over 18,000 workers in its provider network. I would like to remove the notability and primary sources tags, and of course would encourage others to continue to link to this from other entries. What is the process - I don't want to overstep my authority by removing your tags, but do not want the entry to be incorrectly tagged any longer than necessary. Regards, Timtempleton (talk) 02:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Hi Tim! Thanks for contacting me. Sorry that I didn't catch your message on the article's talk page earlier. Anytime someone appears to miss a question or message of any kind, just do what you did here by contacting the person. I think you're doing great at acclimating to the community! Let me take a look at the article, maybe make a quick cleanup and copy edit to help out with whatever may be needed, then I'll respond more fully on the talk page. If you ever need help or have a question about anything, please feel free to drop me a line anytime. Best regards, Cindy(talk) 23:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the help finding additional sources and showing me how to improve the citations for BAYADA! Timtempleton (talk) 21:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 September 2013

Hi Cindy – This is essentially a copy of the note I sent via email, many apologies if you receive it twice! I'm a (relatively) new editor to Wikipedia, and worked on one of the pages you've recently flagged: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenore_Malen The edits to Lenore Malen's page were commissioned by Malen to correct a well-intentioned but erroneous stub page, which had been previously created for her by a colleague. I worked with her to expand and clarify her bio page. I appreciate your feedback, and the issues you noted have since been addressed and edited, including your salient criticisms of some of the phrasing (taken from her texts, not from third party sources). The image credits for the works included have been cleared except for one photograph of this artist's installation, which has been removed pending the email confirmation from Tuft University photographer for this show. It will be added when he has cleared it. I'd like to request that the flag notice on this page header be removed, but didn't want to take it off myself without checking in. Would you look this over and let me know if there are any remaining issues you'd like us to resolve? Best, Catkron (talk) 19:21, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Can you direct me to the text written by Malen that has been used in this article? Cindy(talk) 08:23, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Nadia Bolz-Weber

please restore, meets GNG - 2 articles about her in 2 reliable sources: On Being; Denver Post. Duckduckgo (talk) 17:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Hey there. I didn't actually edit, nominate, or delete this article. Taking a look, it seems the article has been restored. Anytime you see a deleted article, you can view the name of the administrator that deleted the article. Additionally, if you go to the history of any existing article, you can click on "view logs for this page", which will show the actions previously taken. Hope this helps. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me anytime! Best regards, Cindy(talk) 14:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Good call: I was just reaching the same conclusion following a different route. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Happy to lend a hand. ;) Cindy(talk) 17:48, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, Cindamuse -- thanks for checking the Flamethrowers page. Was the problem the plot summary? My sense was that since the text came from the novel's jacket copy, it would fall under the same fair use as, for example, the jacket cover jpg. (The copy came from here, at worldcat.) If not, my apologies, and I've already converted. But wouldn't the same fair use apply to both jacket elements? Thanks again. Mthwaite (talk) 04:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

  • You always want to make sure to use your own words when writing and editing articles. The article was primarily a direct copyvio of the Amazon site. Unless you are quoting content, don't rely on fair use when writing articles. If you check the duplication detector, you will see remaining copyvio in the article. Take a look and see how you can rewrite that content. Remember also to refrain from close paraphrasing. If you have more questions or need help, hit me up. Cindy(talk) 05:26, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks, Cindy. My sense was: on Worldcat, fair use. But now I see. And thank you again for the help. Mthwaite (talk) 13:37, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks so much for marking my article as a speedy deletion. I had no idea that it was against the rules. MatthewKingrey (talk) 02:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Overall, I would recommend drafting articles first in a subpage of your userspace to allow you to work on the article in order to make sure it meets the criteria for inclusion. This helps to ensure that the article is not at risk for speedy deletion. You can find the notability guidelines for online-based content at WP:Notability (web). If you have questions or need help, please feel free to contact me again. Best regards, Cindy(talk) 03:10, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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Chas. H. Hansen Music Corp.

Heads-up: I am going to attempt to re-post Chas. H. Hansen Music Corp., and would appreciate a little leniency and support — give me about two weeks. Truth be told, it is much easier to build this particluar article live, as opposed to doing it in a sandbox or a word doc. The topic is notable from several perspectives.

  1. Hansen Music was an example of music folio reprint business that helped many struggling publishers in the 1950s. The model is being replicated today, an era in which single sheet music has disappeared and major sheet music retailers (e.g., Colony Record and Radio Center & the Joseph Patelson Music House, both in Manhattan) have closed.
  2. Chronicling publishers, particularly music publishers, on wikipedia, if done well, can be very useful in several ways. In particular, the succession of publishing rights is incredibly complicated. And there's a freight-train of prolific publishers that no one can identify. Knowing who was who is useful.
  3. Hansen Music, like a lot of publishers, was influential in disseminating popular music to the masses.

Eurodog (talk) 15:26, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the heads up. That said, there are a couple of concerns here. The three bullet points you mention above do not help to establish notability for the organization. In essence, its "helpful, obsolete, useful, and influential". Since article was previously deleted through community discussion, I'm going to recommend that you draft the article in your userspace. If you can establish notability and appropriately meet the concerns brought up in the AFD, I have no problem with restoring the article, but you need to follow the process. Create a draft and request restoration at DRV. Best regards, Cindy(talk) 02:30, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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fyi

Hello, I have deleted commons:File:Kennewick Man excavation site.jpg (your upload) see Ticket#2013100210017202. Have a nice evening. Regards, --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

  • Bummer. Thanks for letting me know. I'll contact Jim and see if he has a different image he can donate. Thanks again, Cindy(talk) 22:01, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have removed the unsourced text about the sole "event" for which the "village" is claimed to be notable. Please examine if such content should exist in the encyclopedia. Unfitlouie (talk) 18:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

  • I'm curious why you have removed content in order to hopefully be able to delete the article. (I've restored the content and edited the promotional tone.) Populated placed are considered notable. (See WP:NGEO) Yes, the article needs sourcing. Reliable sources that document and verify governmental recognition of a place will be sufficient to establish notability. Let's work on providing some sources, rather than work to delete the article. Best regards, Cindy(talk) 22:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cindy, apparently you ran into an edit conflict with TheLongTone while prodding this article. Fyi, it's now officially at AfD. Best, De728631 (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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Re:Speedy deletion nomination of Alan DeSousa (disambiguation)

Cindy, could you please explain your rationale for tagging this page for speedy deletion? It is neither orphaned (which if this criteria is failed, G6 doesn't apply anyways), nor does it disambiguate to other disambiguation pages, nor does it disambiguate one or zero pages, nor is there a primary topic. It has been nominated for speedy deletion once and failed the criteria. Sorry for assuming bad faith, but do you have a sort of special hatred against me? Thank you. Have a nice day! Darylgolden (talk) 07:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC) Even if you feel that the page should be deleted, at least hold a discussion with the admin who declined the request and put a link to that on the talk page, not just re-adding the tag. Your actions could be interpreted as a mild form of edit warring. Have a nice day! Darylgolden (talk) 07:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

  • First off, thanks for contacting me. Please understand that I have no special hatred of you. Honestly, not even normal, everyday hatred of you. Not sure why you would think that. I don't recall whether our paths have ever crossed before. There's no edit warring, since I've only made one edit to this page. While patrolling new pages, I reviewed this dab page for compliance and placed a G6 CSD tag on it. Please take a look at Wikipedia:G6#G6. I placed the tag because it disambiguates two or fewer extant Wikipedia pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic). Hope this helps. Best regards, Cindy(talk) 08:36, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
    • After bringing this to my attention, I've noticed in the history that I placed a tag last week on Alan deSouza (disambiguation), which was declined by another editor, who unfortunately lacked an understanding of the criteria. You then moved the page to a different title. Coincidentally, I encountered these two pages several days apart. Note that the editor was not actually an administrator, but an individual trying to help out. To provide some background, the primary topic of the first dab page (Alan deSouza (disambiguation)) is (was) Allan deSouza. In the second dab page, the primary topic is Alan DeSousa. Note that you have a hatnote on Alan DeSousa, which states "This article is about the politician. For the artist, see Allan deSouza. For other uses, see Alan DeSousa (disambiguation).". This is a bit out of sorts, since there are no other uses. I'll make a quick edit to the article to (hopefully) bring some clarity. Feel free to drop me a line if you have questions. Cindy(talk) 09:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind and swift response. I've realised that I was overaggressive with my message and overprotective of my page. My sincere apologies. Have a nice day! Darylgolden (talk) 23:01, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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