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Proposed deletion of 2021 CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge

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October 2021

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at 2021 Skate America, you may be blocked from editing. Per WP:LIVESCORE sports results are not included till the end of the competition. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:55, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

@Sportsfan 1234: This is common practice in the figure skating editing community. I don't see how it's your business or right to police my ability to do this. It is not vandalism, and my reporting is accurate. Please stop deleting my edits. Go ahead and report me if you really feel so strongly. I have reviewed the page you're referring to, and there is nothing there prohibiting me from continuing. Clemkr (talk) 18:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Ignore him. WP:LIVESCORES is not an actual policy outside of the snooker community, and figure skating most assuredly does not fit into that category. 😂😂😂 Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:15, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Sorry, I shouldn't have reverted multiple times. Nevertheless, MOS:FLAG states plainly that flags aren't necessary at all and in unclear situations should be avoided. I won't continue to argue this point, though. I genuinely appreciate all of your contributions to figure skating articles and I'm sorry if I've upset you. Hergilei (talk) 02:20, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@Hergilei: It appears that we aren't going to come together on this. I still disagree that the page you've linked is applicable to this situation as I don't see how "country represented" would be confused with citizenship. There really is no lack of clarity, in my opinion. He represents Poland. He formerly represented Russia. That much is inarguable. That page has been a pet project of mine since it was a draft all the way back in 2017, so I perhaps feel a bit more defensive than I ordinarily would. We can leave it alone. Clemkr (talk) 02:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

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March 2022

Last year you did the article for 2021 Channel One Trophy. Will you be doing the one for 2022? It seems like Valieva will participate according to this [1]. ErnestKrause (talk) 18:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Hektor Giotopoulos Moore

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Like most people and most things in life...

You're kind of right, and kind of wrong. And Prax is kind of right, and kind of wrong. ANI is not really fit for purpose, especially in non-black-and-white situations where people are kind of right, and kind of wrong.

If, after the dust settles a little, you'd like some help trying to resolve this outside of the crucible of ANI, let me know. If you're pretty much done with WP, I guess I understand that too. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I really do appreciate that. Like you said, I feel like things wouldn't have come to this point had they not started out so pointedly. I don't take well to being spoke down to or given unconstructive criticism. I do care about being here, and I do feel genuinely emotional about this situation. Having that called into question by others on ANI hurt. I am still a person, not an emotionless editing bot. I can see Prax's point, but I wish it had been delivered in a way that wasn't so spiteful. Drmies getting involved just felt like unnecessary fuel to the fire. I'm not stupid. I know what needs to be done, but there are certainly instances in this situation where I was in the right in my editing, and I wish that would be acknowledged. Clemkr (talk) 17:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Clemkr, I saw this too late to open my big mouth, but Levivich's statement at ANI about the sources you had included suggests you were treated harshly. You say you can see Prax's point; that's both generous and shows you appreciate that we need to be careful with BLPs. I hope you do return; up to you, but that's what I really wanted to say. Yngvadottir (talk) 02:03, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for saying that. I've spent four years on this site trying to contribute in a meaningful way, and resolving the few conflicts that have arisen along the way in a respectful and empathetic manner. I regret that I was not given the opportunity to do that in this situation, and I don't know that I will ever be afforded that from the user in question. It is difficult to want to continue here when I have little faith that the same behavior won't continue. I was not exaggerating when I said that this whole ordeal has impacted me emotionally, and that, coupled with the lack of empathy shown in the ANI is what prompted me to choose retirement. At this point, I do not know if I will return, but I appreciate you, Levivich, and Floquenbeam showing me grace during throughout this troubling situation. Perhaps there are things I could have done differently, but I tried my best, and I never intended to act in a way that would hurt another user or this project. It hurts to be bullied, even when you're a grown up. Clemkr (talk) 02:12, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

If you decide to come back I'd like to work with you on some edits or something. I'm sure I can learn a thing or two. I'm sorry for what happened to you and I, like others, think you were so gracious throughout the unfortunate discussion. Empathy is not something that comes natural for a lot of people. I know others see things differently but I believe empathy and understanding is crucial to remaining collaborative and I am so relieved there are others that see it the same way as I. Yes, it involves temperance and possibly a little effort on the part of those involved but the reward is seeing another human being blossom and maybe growing a little ourselves. Is it an expressed policy requirement? lol No, remaining neutral and indifferent in understanding of policy might be doable but the way we communicate those policies with our fellow human beings and the way we administer those policies should never be done with indifference. There is an element of compassion and empathy that should be shared among every editor that truly wants the encyclopedia to become better because that means more effective collaboration. I'm just as guilty as the next. There are times my temperance is worn thin, especially in cases where I feel new editors are being pushed around by experienced editors. That is no excuse for forgetting that those experienced editors are human too and I have to work on how I respond. All that to say this, you are valued as an editor here, just as much as anyone else, and I think that is clearly shown by those that have responded. I certainly do not blame you if you choose to not return but I hope you will give it consideration. --ARoseWolf 15:00, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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Junior skater who for now lacks notability. Nothing on Google News, not a lot in general.

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Hello Clemkr, the article has been restored after I contested the deletion. With the bronze medal at the 2022 CS Finlandia Trophy the notability should be clear now. By the way: I create articles about figure skaters in de.Wikipedia. I appreciate the articles about figure skaters and competitions you created here in en.Wikipedia. --Kallichore (talk) 00:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Jean-Hans Fourneaux

Hi @Clemkr: I reviwed your article as part of the WP:NPP article review process. The article is only referenced to a profile which has been generated from a database. These database generated profiles are no longer sufficient per the recent RFC. The consensus now that these articlse must have genuine secondary showing the person is notable, i.e. not only from a database. It is a WP:BLP after all. All you have is copied the information from the profile and put in a load of content that is not sourced. I'm sending it to draft where you can work on it. Once its done give me a shout and I'll send it back to mainspace. Great article apart from that. Hope that helps. scope_creep^Talk 10:05, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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OVERLINKING

Hi, thanks for your work; but please remember we don't normally link the names of well-known countries, or common terms, in the main text. Tony (talk) 23:13, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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New Russian pair

Hi! You recently added a newly dissolved and a newly formed Russian pair to the current skating season article. I could be wrong, but judging by the source title, you’ve got them backward. You might want to double-check and be sure they’re correct. I don’t want to monkey with the table; those edits are not my strong suit. --Dr.Margi ✉ 17:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I believe I have them correct. Kaganovskaya/Angelopol and Pasechnik/Nekrasov both dissolved. Kaganovskaya/Nekrasov has been formed. Clemkr (talk) 19:57, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

You do. I went back and looked again, and it was the mark-up that confused me. Sorry about that! --Dr.Margi ✉ 23:57, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

No worries! Clemkr (talk) 01:40, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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