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HeartattaCk

Would you be able to lend a hand on either contributing reliable sources for this article or providing your opinion on the corresponding AfD? PT (s-s-s-s) 00:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Dave Tarras and Ternivka

As far as I found from [1], he was born in a village of Ternivka in Teplytskyi_Raion, Vinnytsia_Oblast, not in Ternivka, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast. There's no article even for Teplyk, so I'm removing wiki link to Ternivka from article.

Ah, my mistake! Thanks. Dan Carkner 13:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

HeartattaCk

I believe the decision to delete this article was made in error, so I have asked for a deletion review. Since you were involved in the AfD on this, I wanted to inform you so that you might weigh in. PT (s-s-s-s) 17:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Blagoevgrad Province#Pirin Macedonia

Could you please specify what exactly is "very POV" with the section? Maybe United Macedonia isn't irredentist and possibly refusing to accept the Bulgarians in the province' right to self-identify as such is absolutely OK? Perphaps claiming Alexander the Great is your first king and Samuil of Bulgaria your medieval Macedonian ruler is not propagandistic and revisionistic?

As for the Bulgarian Communist Party's policies from the 1940s and 1950s and the planned unification of Bulgaria and Yugoslavia which led to the specific census results of 1948 and 1956, you may want to read one of Georgi Dimitrov's speeches of the time here to make yourself familiar with the peculiar situation.

Regards, Todor→Bozhinov 10:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! Certainly, the article needs a history section dealing with its ancient, medieval, Ottoman and modern Bulgarian history, but that's not POV — it's a flaw :)
Of course, the Republic of Macedonia has no aspirations to annex anything (and you perfectly know that would be completely impossible), but education and public opinion in the county is such that in fact most people do regard Pirin Macedonia as somehow "theirs" and think it should be annexed. The version of Balkan history they are taught at school really is propaganda-like and very revisionistic.
Surely, this is hardly ever sourcable, but you can see User:Vlatkoto's user page, for example. For the school textbooks see Talk:Macedonia (terminology)/Archive 3#ROM/FYROM official propaganda.
Not sure what you mean by this "annexation by Bulgaria early in the 20th century". Pirin Macedonia/Blagoevgrad Province (they're the same) became part of Bulgaria after the Balkan Wars and it was ceded by the Ottoman Empire. In fact, Bulgaria was supposed to get an a lot larger share of the region than that, as it was the one who actually fought with the Ottomans on the main front, but Greece and Serbia collaborated to prevent this, and due to earlier Bulgarian diplomatic mistakes succeeded. I agree it's important and should be mentioned as a key part of the history of the region in a separate History section, but fail to understand what role it has regarding the neutrality of the article. Todor→Bozhinov 14:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Shawn Scallen

This was a non-notable biography as per the criteria set out in WP:BIO. (aeropagitica) 21:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I am going to restart the article. I just went for supper, give me some time, heh heh! He is notable, mostly for his photography, he has taken promotional pictures of bands such as Green Day, Fugazi, and pretty much any north american punk band from the last 15 years. Give me a chance to put some sources.. Dan Carkner 22:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Create the article in a user sub-page and gather the sources before attempting to recreate the page. This should prevent its' speedy deletion. Pay attention to WP:BIO and Wikipedia:reliable sources to ensure that the standards are adhered to. Regards, (aeropagitica) 22:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The article is up for speedy delete again. A user sub-page would be the better location to work on making it conform to WP:BIO. Please don't reply to me, I am now going off-shift as it is nearly midnight here. (aeropagitica) 22:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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Speak White

I reverted your revert as your claim is not properly referenced. J Martin81 00:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hello Dan Carkner

It is interesting how Serbs promoted invented word "Serbophobia" on the internet. First they introduced the word to wikipedia, and then thousands of other scrapper sites copied content from wikipedia, and now Google yields thousands of matches for this invented word. Of course, while Bosniaks wanted to do the same, and create an article Bosniakophobia, Serbs quickly jumped and voted "NO!". And of course, attempts to create Bosniakophobia article failed thanks to Serbian activism on wikipedia! They don't use wikipedia for educational, but for their nationalistic/politic purposes. It is sickening to see Serbian propaganda and lies poisoning Wikipedia. Wikipedia deserves Bosniakophobia article. Bosniak 07:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

It is my business if it violates policy, which I've established. I'll leave it on your talk page if you want. --Coredesat 04:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


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kudus

Kudus, Central Java would be more appropriate - using 'indonesia' as a qualifier is a problem, as there are multiple place names that are best qualified by their province, not country JarrahTree 06:05, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Hi, thanks for your attention--as far as I can tell this is the only well known city called Kudus in Indonesia, so per the Indonesia topics naming convention it should be followed by the country. Or can you show me which other ones you are thinking of? I just found "Kudus, Kudus" awkward as no one would ever say it that way in real life. Dan Carkner (talk) 15:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

youd be surprised what Javanese say in real life. Place names with qualifiers is one hell of a war zone across space and time on wikipedia, most place names that the Indonesan project has qualifiers is against province, to place against country is not how it works in most cases - in real life indonesians usually qualify by their island or province similar to the multiple springfields in the usa (springfield, mas, or spingfield whereever), not the country, from my experience. My time was in Central Java - maybe if you have lived in other regions there were regional variations in usages of qualifiers... JarrahTree 22:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Fair enough! I was just following the description of the Indonesia articles guide. thanks for the feedback. Dan Carkner (talk) 21:33, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Liem Thian Joe

Hi Dan Carkner, thanks for creating Djawa Tengah and other articles for Malay-language newspapers in the Dutch East Indies. I was hoping someone would!

Just a quick note to qualify Suryadinata's assertion that Liem Thian Joe (born in 1895) was the first Peranakan historian to use 'modern' historiography. This might be true if we limit ourselves to Peranakan intellectuals writing in Malay. (Even then, Liem's near contemporary, Nio Joe Lan (born in 1904), might have started writing before Liem as the latter only started writing in the 1920s. And I'm sure there were other Malay-language writers I don't know about.)

In any case, Suryadinata is patently wrong when we also look at Peranakan intellectuals writing in other languages, such as Dutch or perhaps Chinese. Dutch-trained Han Tiauw Tjong (born in 1894) wrote works like 'De Chineezen op Java en het Nederlandsch onderdaanschap' (1919) and 'De industrialisatie van China' (1922). Phoa Liong Gie (born in 1905) wrote 'De rechtstoestand der Chineezen in Indonesië' in 1926. Again, there must have been others. Which is why, unless there's some kind of concrete evidence, I'm not comfortable with superlatives.

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I could ask the same for all the new and recent Indonesian articles you have created. Thank you for your work, it is appreciated - but as for assessment, I user Rater - it sure helps when volumes of material require tagging, because so few people tag their own creations :) - JarrahTree 12:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
@JarrahTree: Oops! I'm pretty new to this side of wikipedia article creation (although I have created a lot of stubs over the years I never went beyond it until recently). I found the page about this rater thing and I will try to look into it. Thanks! Dan Carkner (talk) 14:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
better to keep your very good articles happening (nothing like them since crisco decided to move on) - no big deal - the quality of your articles is important - some people even refuse point blank to look at the talk pages... the tales of tagging Indonesian articles is rather a spotted horror story, but the details are probably not worth going into at this stage - the preponderence of stubs and non english intervention is likely to bring on hives or apoplexy, or a loss of sense of humour at two steps... JarrahTree 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
@JarrahTree: OK thanks for the encouragement!

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Max Leibowitz

The categorisation system is heirarchical. Category:Klezmer musicians is a subcategory of Category:Jewish musicians. If you dont like that feel free to alter it. But as it stands we do not need to categorise klezmer players as Jewish. Rathfelder (talk) 16:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@Rathfelder: This is a biography of a person who was Jewish. His profession is another matter. I think there might be a case that it's wrong to make Klezmer musician a subcategory of Jewish musicians but that's another discussion. Dan Carkner (talk) 16:48, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I have no problem with categorising him as Jewish, and arguably marking him as a Klezmer player does that, but he was not an American person of Romanian-Jewish descent. He was a Category:Romanian Jews who emigrated. Migrating does not make him American. Rathfelder (talk) 17:15, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I believe he became a naturalized citizen. Admittedly I did not write that into the article. But even if he were a resident alien for several decades I think it makes it valid. Besides Romanian Jews themselves were not citizens of Romania either during his time (except in rare cases) so it's not quite the thing that decided their identity one way or another. But anyhow thank you for bringing attention to the status of Category:Klezmer musicians, I think it is a minor issue in the grand scheme of things but I did make a discussion in WikiProject Judaism to see what people think about the matter. --Dan Carkner (talk) 17:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi there, Dan Carkner, and welcome to Women in Red. I see that in addition to all your well presented biographies of men, you've recently managed to include a couple on women. I hope there will be many more. Some of the listings in our redlists may help you identify candidates for articles, for example those on Jewish women or on Indonesia. If you haven't already done so, you might find it useful to look through our Primer for creating women's biographies. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 09:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ipigott: Thanks! I did create a few articles based on the Indonesia redlinks list in the past (I found it via WikiProject Indonesia). There is definitely a lot to be done there. Will try my best! Dan Carkner (talk) 14:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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