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21:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

00:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

17:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

A rollback is not an explanation

Please don't misuse that user right, or you risk it being revoked. Thank you. El_C 16:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks El_C, I'm sorry for that slip, but we really do need explanation. Regards.MM17 (discuss) 20:14, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't understand what you're trying to say. I gave an explanation — you did not. El_C 17:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes of course, I just have to tell you that I don't mean to revert your edits that was mistaken, Thanks.MM17 (discuss) 19:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020

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21:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Ros Sopheap moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Ros Sopheap, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. DGG ( talk ) 10:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I noticed that you're trying to improve 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Nigeria, but you've made some couple of mistakes on the way. Firstly, you added a red link Category (Category:2020 disasters in Nigeria), which I later created. Secondly, you added an error Category (February 2000 events in Africa) which I later corrected. Thirdly, you removed the Category that I corrected and replaced it with another one, instead of leaving it, whilst still adding the new one. I'll enjoin you to edit with care the next time you attempt editing. Best, —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 07:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I'm trying to add and create those categories but found out you've created them before I did and I then try to resolve the edit conflict by merging them together, you can check now I've fixed it's all. thanks. MM17 (discuss) 07:32, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I've seen it. Best, —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 09:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

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17:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mustapha

Why did you rollback my edits for the Native Sons (The Long Ryders album) page at 12:34, 27 March 2020‎?

Kind regards, OttoJohn (talk) 12:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi OttoJohn, I'm sorry for reverting your constructive edits, I undid it.MM17 (discuss) 04:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

17:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

your signature

Hello,

Just saw your signature at this AfD. Please be sure your signature is not changing the line height. On the page, it's much bigger than everything else and appears to extend the size of the line. Some guidelines for signatures are here: Wikipedia:Signatures#Guidelines_and_policies. See also WP:BILLBOARD (an essay). Thanks. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

OK! Thank you for letting me know about this. I've corrected it. Regards. -Em-must@pha 21:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
You should link your talk page in the signature. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

19:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Kingdom of Bohemia revert

Hello there, M-Mustapha, I am afraid restoring the content in question is not really an option. First off, the infobox listed the country as a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, however, the source book talks about the Bohemian nobility raising finances for bribes and tribute to the sultan in exchange for his military aid which ultimately did not – could not – happen, not an act of vassalage of the kingdom to the empire. Furthermore, you might note that this topic is not even discussed anywhere else in Bohemia or 30 Year War related articles.

Additionally, you might note that for example the infobox in the article on the Duchy of Bohemia does not list any of its vassal or tributary ties to the German or Polish states of the period, despite these actually coming to some kind of fruition – as opposed to the Ottoman episode – and taking place over the course of years, even decades. The Duchy article only lists the significant inclusion of the Duchy into the framework of the HRE.

In fact, if I were a suspicious editor, I would question the motivation behind including this piece of information in the first place, considering its haphazard inclusion at the end of an otherwise orderly, chronological list, considering that it is pretty much a fleeting historical anecdote in the list of well-established historical alignments of the kingdom to various states, considering that other articles do not list these pieces of trivia in their infobox, considering that the articles in question do not even mention the topic in the body text, and considering its inclusion by a very Turkish-oriented editor. However, it is entirely possible that this is a coincidence and I am reading too much into things.

With this in mind, I will be restoring, uhh, well, re-removing the content in question. 2A00:1028:838C:CDC6:3CF5:FD03:F706:FB4E (talk) 10:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

OK 2A00:1028:838C:CDC6:3CF5:FD03:F706:FB4E, but to me it wasn't the right thing to do, as an editor who tries to build an encyclopedia, I'm only behind the sources being provided no matter what, as per the sources are reliable. And you said that "the source book talks about the Bohemian nobility raising finances for bribes and tribute to the sultan in exchange for his military aid which ultimately did not – could not – happen, not an act of vassalage of the kingdom to the empire", but I never see the above quote in the content you removed, and that's what makes me suspicious of vandalism. Finally, I will restore the content again per the 'reference', and may be you can bring your own references that are contrary to what is provided then you can go ahead but with only Idea and thinking of what could happen or what could not happen is not an option. Thanks. Please do not vandalize Wikipedia! Em-mustapha User | talk 17:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I... I honestly do not know how to respond to that. Let me rephrase: The source provided does not name the Kingdom of Bohemia as a vassal of the Ottoman Empire. Yet it is used as a source to list the Kingdom of Bohemia as a vassal of the Ottoman Empire. Source says "A was B". It is used as a source for "A was Z". That is the problem. It would be impossible to include a reference that would be contrary to something being said when that something in question did not historically happen, nor is it supported by the reference used in the first place. I know I am bordering on 3RR but I honestly do not see any justification for keeping the content in question.
Let me rephrase – you are restoring content which is not supported by the source provided. You are asking for references to prove a negative ("A was not Z") before deleting "A was Z". But nothing says "A was Z" in the first place. According to (and not only) Wikipedia:Content_removal#Unsourced_information, it can thus be boldly removed.
I genuinely hope you do not consider my actions as vandalism. I will wait for your reply but it is my intention to remove that piece of information from the article again, as it is not supported by the source and it does not conform to the consensus regarding historical nation infoboxes either. 2A00:1028:838C:CDC6:CDF3:97D3:45E2:F790 (talk) 06:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I told you I'm only behind the source, the removed content is a link to this page Vassal and tributary states of the Ottoman Empire and this is the reference [21]' check it you will find all that you need. By the way this is the author of the book Peter H. Wilson. Thanks -Em-mustapha User | talk 08:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I have checked the source. I actually have the physical book. The infobox says 'vassal'. The source does not say that. If the infobox said 'tributary state' or 'sent bribes to the Ottoman Empire', that would indeed reflect the content of the source. However, it doesn't. It says something different. That is point number one.
There is also point number two. Note that the list of Ottoman vassal and tributary states also lists for example the Archduchy_of_Austria which also paid tribute to the Ottoman Empire. But the Archduchy's infobox does not list it as a vassal of the Ottoman Empire either. Just as the Duchy of Bohemia infobox does not list its tributes to Poland or Germany.
With these two points in mind, I still plan on removing that particular piece of information in its current form from the infobox. That the Bohemian nobility raised finances to gain Ottoman support in the 30 Year Wars is certainly a worthwhile piece of information that could be included in the article body. However, it is not a basis to say it was a 'Vassal of the Ottoman Empire' in the infobox. Not only is that incorrect and not supported by the source, but it does not conform to how information is presented in other historical nations' infoboxes.
I hope I have made my points clear and I look forward to your response. 2A00:1028:838C:CDC6:CDF3:97D3:45E2:F790 (talk) 10:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm with you 100%, I now understand that, it is more formal to be referred as a 'tributary state' than a 'Vassal state' may be that is why the author did not choose the latter name.
And regarding what is there and what's not there, I do not even know what to say about that, this is not something to consider of, remember Wikipedia is a dynamic encyclopedia that would never be completed, may be you will find the text tomorrow in there.-Em-mustapha User | talk 08:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ros Sopheap (April 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020

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15:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Category:Sports venues in Nigeria by city has been nominated for deletion

Category:Sports venues in Nigeria by city, which you created, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. SFB 18:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

18:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You

The Cleanup Barnstar
When some mistakes have taken place, you do your best to improve it to more encyclopedic, you worth it An@ss_koko(speak up) 10:05, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you An@ss_koko for the barnstar, I appreciate your recognition of me. You're a kind of good editor, your work to cover northern Nigeria related topics on wikipedia is amazing! Please Keep up the good work, I'll stand by your side to achieve that. Thank you so much, Regards.-Em-mustapha User | talk 16:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

European water polo championships

Hi, I got a problem with Pelmeer10. Please, this is official LEN medals table for both competition, men's and women's. You can see what I say so many times - Medals from USSR belong to Russia, and from Yugoslavia to Serbia. Check this, please [1]

However, read this [2]

Serbia clinches 4th title in a row, though Spain falls only in shootoutFor the first time in the history of the European Water Polo Championships, the penalty shootout decided the title and it was retained by Serbia, despite an electrifying performance of the host Spaniards. This was the Serbs’ 8th gold medal, and the 7th in the last nine editions since 2001. Croatia got rid of its demons and clinched the bronze medal after four lost matches played for the third place in the past.

So, this is the prouv what i talking about, and Pelmeer10 delete this BudvaMontenegro (talk) 15:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

References

Welcome BudvaMontenegro, I'm sorry for the late response, you just have to follow MelanieN's expalnation it's enough of what you can do. By the way I see that you're a new editor, I've dropped you a welcome note on your talk in order to understand better about how to edit. Thanks.-Em-mustapha User | talk 02:46, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Aminu Ibrahim Daurawa moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Aminu Ibrahim Daurawa, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Celestina007 (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Article Unfit For Mainspace

Hello, I have moved to draftspace a new article you created because all together they contained three sources, two unreliable that both linked to an error 404 message & 1 reliable source which shows subject of your article being merely announced. I’m not sure why or how that page was marked as reviewed. Currently your page meets draftify so I’ve done the needful. Celestina007 (talk) 11:02, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

OK Celestina, I get you may be when I've time I will improve it, I thought you should've taken it to AFD directly but why don't you? and being not sure of why or how the page was reviewed is not anybody's problem, why worry? the reviewer knows truly what he is doing whenever he finds something worth encyclopedic. I'm really gonna learn a lot from you that's why you are here. Just thought -Em-mustapha talk 17:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
M-Mustapha, no it’s not every article that one should take to an AFD, if an article possess potential for notability & can be improved but at the same time unfit for mainspace, the article should be draftified. Celestina007 (talk) 01:22, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

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Unsigned

Hello!

I noticed this edit of yours. When signing other's messages please use {{Unsigned}} instead of it looking like a real signature.Jonteemil (talk) 04:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks.Em-mustapha talk 11:51, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020

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Ways to improve Titilope Gbemisola Akosa

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