User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2020/Feb

In response to possible deletion of uploads.

To whom it may concern,

I apologise if I had caused some confusion. I understand the committee's reasoning for deleting my files from the New York City Subway Standard Bullet Set. If you do decide to go through with this, I hope that you would add these in the Custom New York City Subway Bullet page in order to give them the proper respect.-

Blake McNamara Feb. 2, 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blake McNamara (talk • contribs) 18:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Blake McNamara, no problem. I think you should comment at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by User:Blake McNamara and vote "Keep" there. If you want, I will withdraw the nomination. epicgenius (talk) 18:47, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Q26 (New York City bus)

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bryant Park

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DYK for Roy Wilkins Park

On 4 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Roy Wilkins Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that before the creation of Roy Wilkins Park in 1976, the site was described as a wasteland with eighteen "rat-infested" buildings and a "leaking swimming pool full of dead dogs"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Roy Wilkins Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Roy Wilkins Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bryant Park

The article Bryant Park you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bryant Park for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 03:21, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Growth team updates #12

Welcome to the twelfth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

General news

• A training for mentors has been published. The training was first tried with the Czech community, and went well.
• Growth team features have been deployed to Hungarian, Ukrainian, and Armenian Wikipedias. If your community is enthusiastic about welcoming newcomers, we encourage you to contact us so that we can verify together whether your wiki is eligible. Then you can go through the checklist to start the process of configuring the features.

Productive edits from newcomer tasks

We deployed the basic workflow for newcomer tasks to our target wikis on November 20, and the early results are exciting.

Suggested edits by type of edit.
Graph captions (top to bottom):
■ Copyedits
■ Add links
■ Expand article
■ Add reference
■ Advanced edits

• About 1.5% of newcomers who visit their homepage complete the workflow and save a suggested edit. So far, this has amounted to over 450 edits, on all wikis, coming from both desktop and mobile users.
• When we look at the edits that newcomers make, we see that they are largely positive! We are pleased to see that this feature does not appear to encourage vandals.
  • 75% of the edits are productive and unreverted.
  • 95% of the edits appear to be in good faith.
• Most of the edits include copyedits and adding links, with some newcomers also adding content and references. Copyedits are suggested most strongly.
• Click here to learn more specifics about the results so far.

Topic matching deployed

The results from our user tests showed us that newcomers are likely to do more suggested edits if they can choose articles related to a topic that they're interested in, such as "science", "music", or "sports".

• On January 21, we deployed topic matching on our pilot wikis. Newcomers are now using it. We expect it to cause more newcomers to try suggested edits, and to keep making more of them.
• In the coming weeks, we will be making improvements to the accuracy of the algorithm used to topic matching, which is part of the ORES project.

Next steps for newcomer tasks

Prototype of how the help panel will "peek" from the bottom of the page to offer guidance on mobile.

Because we are seeing positive results from newcomer tasks, the Growth team plans to concentrate our efforts on improving the workflow and encouraging more newcomers to use it.

• Guidance: next, we will be using the help panel to provide guidance to newcomers as they do suggested edits, and to prompt them to do another edit after completing their first one. In user tests for this feature, demo videos were one of the favorite features, and we will think about how these might be added.
• Starting the workflow: only about 20% of newcomer who visit their homepage begin the newcomer tasks workflow. We are going to be trying out different layouts of the homepage to encourage more newcomers to try newcomer tasks.
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DYK for Fort Tryon Park

On 7 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fort Tryon Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Fort Tryon Park, located on steep terrain in Manhattan, was designed as a landscaped park with the Cloisters museum as the main point of interest? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fort Tryon Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fort Tryon Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Captain Tilly Park

On 8 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Captain Tilly Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Captain Tilly Park contains the "smallest island in the smallest natural body of water" within New York City? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Captain Tilly Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Captain Tilly Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Bowne Park

On 5 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bowne Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during a renovation of New York City's Bowne Park, some fish from its pond ended up in refrigerators of nearby homes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bowne Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bowne Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des​ 22:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC) 12:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations.-Nizil (talk) 13:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For Bowne Park DYK. Regards, Nizil (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for 65 Broadway

On 10 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 65 Broadway, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the American Express Building in Manhattan replaced a pair of brownstone structures that were described as being "among the ancient landmarks" on Broadway? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/65 Broadway. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 65 Broadway), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Do these GA reviews:

• Talk:2012 24 Hours of Le Mans/GA1
• Talk:Cincinnati Union Terminal/GA1

Did these already. epicgenius (talk) 04:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Queens Plaza Park

On 11 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Queens Plaza Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 67-story Queens Plaza Park will incorporate the borough's first skyscraper, a 14-story clock tower? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Queens Plaza Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Queens Plaza Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--valereee (talk) 00:02, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Triple Crown

I am pleased to award Epicgenius the Triple Crown for their contributions to the article Donald Trump (Last Week Tonight). Well done. Damien Linnane (talk) 06:15, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Congratulation to Epicgenius, who has met the criteria for the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels. Keep up the good work! Damien Linnane (talk) 06:15, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Map

This is so cool. I wouldn't even know where to begin making something like this, but I'd love to see similar maps on more Wikipedia articles about college campuses, public art, local landmarks, etc. Can you share any helpful links describing how these maps can be made? Any leads would help. Thanks, and keep up the great work! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Another Believer, thank you, I appreciate it. It's nice that my maps are finally being recognized.

There are two types of maps that can be created. Template:Maplink uses the interactive Kartographer extension, and the features can be clicked on so readers can see a description (I bypassed the code so it would show an image for the description). Template:OSM Location map, an older template that labels all of the features within the caption at the bottom.

These templates' respective documentations give more detailed instructions on how to create the map. I hope these help, but if you have questions, feel free to ask me. Thanks again for the message. epicgenius (talk) 04:01, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Epicgenius, Thank you. I will take a look in more detail, but at a glance I'm immediately overwhelmed! This just might be outside my wheelhouse; I even struggle with understanding how to generate coordinates for infobox display. Are these hard for you to create? I'm curious if you'd be willing to create any sort of helpful map and example article usage related to Portland, Oregon, which then I could study in more detail, deconstruct, and (hopefully) replicate. If you're not interested or have too many other things on your plate, I totally understand. Figured no harm in asking. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:07, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Another Believer no problem. Any specific region you want me to cover? I use Google Maps/OpenStreetMap to generate the coordinates, so it should not be too hard. I have to sleep soon but may work on this tomorrow. epicgenius (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Epicgenius, Wonderful, thank you! I'm open to absolutely whatever, but if I had to offer a suggestion, I think maybe something for Reed College could be helpful for illustrating these articles. I really appreciate your willingness to let me see how some of this works, and I'm hoping this isn't too much over my head *fingers crossed*, hah! No rush at all. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Actual map on the right

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Reed College

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Eliot Hall

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Eric V. Hauser Memorial Library

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Old Dorm Block

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Performing Arts Building

5

Studio Art Building

Continuation of discussion

@Another Believer: I have created two maps with the 5 buildings that have Wikipedia articles. The one on the top is the {{OSM Location map}} template, and the one on the bottom is {{Maplink}}. OSM Location map isn't very interactive but all of the points of interest will be listed on the bottom, with an image if you click on the point. Maplink is more interactive and customizable, but also prone to errors and does not list the buildings at the caption on the bottom. epicgenius (talk) 18:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Might take me a while to figure this out, but I will definitely look and hopefully find ways to replicate. Thanks again, truly. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:13, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Brooklyn Bridge

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Brooklyn Bridge has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

The article left me with one unanswered question. What happened to J. Lloyd Haigh after his $300,000 fraud was discovered? Other readers would likely be curious as well.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:42, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you so much for the review. I really appreciate it - this is a pretty long article and it must've have been hard to get through. Nothing happened to Haigh at first - it was only for a different fraud that convicted and sent to Sing Sing prison. I added a note on the article. epicgenius (talk) 14:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

I enjoyed editing the article so its length wasn't an issue. The added note is perfect. Cheers Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:59, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Pelham Parkway notables

Thanks for the cleanup and for adding the source about Robert Abrams (here) before I could add the same source. Thanks for all of your above-and-beyond work. We need far more editors like you and I can only aspire to the scope and quality of your efforts. Alansohn (talk) 23:21, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Alansohn, no problem. Always appreciate it when I can help out.

On a related note, thank you for all your edits on NJ articles. I've stumbled upon a few of these pages while doing some research for my real-life job, and they are pretty well written. (Don't worry, none of my edits are affiliated with my work.) I'm always impressed with the breadth of NJ articles, as opposed to articles on other localities, which aren't always comprehensive. It takes a lot of effort to keep these pages well maintained. So thank you for your work on NJ pages, and for helping out on NYC articles as well! epicgenius (talk) 23:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Feb 19: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

February 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda. Wednesday February 19 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Wikimedia New York City Team 21:00, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Wonder Wheel

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Your GA nomination of Wonder Wheel

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Your GA nomination of Wonder Wheel

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DYK for Rockville Centre train crash

On 17 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rockville Centre train crash, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Rockville Centre train crash was one of two Long Island Rail Road crashes in 1950 which collectively killed more than 100 people? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rockville Centre train crash. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Rockville Centre train crash), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pier 40

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Your GA nomination of Pier 40

The article Pier 40 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Pier 40 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 19:41, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Appreciate your lead expansion on the NYC Subway car articles

Although I do find them a bit wordy, but overall, still good. Some users might go overboard though. But let me not jinx it lol. Jemorie (talk) 20:28, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pier 40

The article Pier 40 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pier 40 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Bryant Park

On 18 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bryant Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as part of a restoration of New York City's Bryant Park, 84 miles (135 km) of bookshelves were built underneath it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bryant Park. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bryant Park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

PSA?

2023? Dream on, my friend. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:25, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@RoySmith: Yeah, we all know the MTA is always punctual on their projects. (/s) But seriously, that was reportedly the news as recently as six days ago. Let's hope the MTA doesn't extend this by 20 additional years though... epicgenius (talk) 00:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

I would be very cautious about accepting that Patch article as meaning anything, especially when they cite annonymous "MTA officials". FWIW, I was at a community board meeting last week, where we had a presentation from the MTA (yeah, the presenter had a name, but not germaine here) on the PSA project. He was talking more like 2025. I wouldn't put much faith in either of those as WP:RS, however. The Patch article also mentions three new stations in The Bronx. Everything I've ever read says four. So, I really can't get too excited about anything Patch says. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:56, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, OK, that makes sense. Should we say "mid-2020s" as a compromise? I think that covers all of the proposed date range even if the stations get delayed to 2027 - which is probably likely at this point. Maybe Kew Gardens 613 knows of a better source than I do. epicgenius (talk) 01:01, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Mid-2020s doesn't sound unreasonable, but we really should find a solid source. The reference that's currently sourced to is a five year old document, so totally worthless. BTW, I was about to start digging into that article to see if I could get it up to GA status, so I'll be cleaning up a lot of the sourcing, as well as paring back a lot of marginally related material that should go elsewhere. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:20, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, GA status would be a great goal to aim for, I definitely think it's almost there. Actually, I may be able to help point out any potential issues in advance - having had several dozen successful GA nominations (including two just from today). Let me know if you need any help.

As for sourcing - the Penn Station Access article has much better sourcing, probably because the NYC public transport wikiproject tries to have most articles at least a C class or better. However, in this case, the sources for Penn Station Access being opened in 2023 are mostly railroad-related sources. Specifically, Progressive Railroading and Mass Transit Mag (press release) indicate that this week, the MTA had narrowed down possible candidates for building PSA. If it's anything like the Third Track Project of the LIRR, this actually will be done quite quickly, and the hardest part will be getting permits & coordination from Amtrak. epicgenius (talk) 01:41, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

I've been following the PSA project for a while (as somebody who lives in the area). Yes, the biggest stumbling block has indeed been, and continues to be, Amtrak. As far as the GA stuff goes, I'd be happy for any suggestions you want to make (I guess leave them on the talk page). My plan was to make one broad pass and trim out a lot of fluff. I think the History section could be about half the size it is now. And the "Post Bank Note era" section could also do with some trimming, especially the "Significant tenants" stuff. Once I'm done with that, I'll start looking more critically at the sourcing. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:58, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, sounds good. I'll leave some general GA suggestions soon (probably in the next week), and then once you've trimmed/rearranged the content as needed, I'll leave some more detailed feedback. epicgenius (talk) 02:09, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

@Epicgenius and RoySmith: There was another PSA presentation that has not yet been uploaded to the website. Maybe this is the presentation you have attended. According to this slide, Final Design and Construction will start after Q4 2020. The MTA press release says, by 2024. Also, there is more stuff that needs to be added for it to be a GA. A few years back I started a draft in my sandbox. More historical context are needed.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:28, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Kew Gardens 613, Yup, that's the same slide deck I've got. The guy who was giving the presentation to CB10, in the same breath he read the 2024 date, added that 2025 was more likely. Not that I believe any of those numbers. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:58, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613 and RoySmith: that sounds good. For PSA I'm pretty sure 2024 is the target. Hopefully we can get both the PSA and the ABNC Printing Plant articles up to GA someday. epicgenius (talk) 16:12, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Epicgenius, Not that I have any more faith in the number than I did before, but http://p0w.1f9.mwp.accessdomain.com/2020/02/12/mta-identifies-firms-qualified-to-bid-to-design-and-build-metro-north-penn-station-access-project/ -- RoySmith (talk) 16:59, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, that's exactly what the Bronx borough president said. I can't find a non-government or railroad source that covers this in more detail, though I already updated the PSA article. epicgenius (talk) 17:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

R179 debacle

Hello, there is a user who refuses to stop editing the R179 article saying that they will replace all of the remaining R32's with no concrete proof, other then a link from NY1 about the R42 retirement. I want to keep it as "projected to replace some, if not all, remaining R32's" but they continue to revert my edits. Is there anything I can do? FlushingLocal (talk) 20:50, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

FlushingLocal, I suggest opening a thread on the talk page, Talk:R179 (New York City Subway car), and then explaining your reasons for your edit. Then notify the other user about the discussion. I also advise that both you and the other user stop reverting further, otherwise it will break the edit warring policy. epicgenius (talk) 20:53, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

21

Sorry for tiresome hairsplitting at your didja-know, but it's so close to being excellent that the effort to make it just right seems worthwhile.

(Incidentally, this is my first ever DYK "quid"; I hope I'm not screwing up.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:47, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

@Hoary: Thanks, and you're doing fine. I'd expect this level of scrutiny from an FAC, which tends to be much more pickier about sources. I appreciate your efforts to make everything look perfect, though a word of advice: most DYK reviewers tend only to check whether the criteria are met, and don't leave thorough comments. The {{DYKcheck}} template might help for future reviews. epicgenius (talk) 00:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Another reviewer now needed? Darwindammit! (Also, I made minor edits to the article; is this too a no-no for a reviewer?) ¶ Well, I'm most impressed by your efficiency, as shown in this WikiCup thing (which I'd not previously heard of). By contrast, I've been working (via the hard drive of my own computer) on a very radical augmentation of an obscure article for at least two months. But look at it this way: When (if) I do actually upload it and submit it as a DYK, you can jump in and get your revenge! -- Hoary (talk) 00:47, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Hoary, it's no problem, really. It's OK for a reviewer to make edits to the page they're reviewing, but you can see some rules of thumb at WP:DYKRULES (and more refined rules at WP:DYKSG). I made a mistake about the template: {{DYK checklist}} is the template for reviewing DYK noms. epicgenius (talk) 00:50, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks: I'll read both later today. (I'd like to say "reread", but that probably wouldn't be true.) ¶ Now for the ultimate hairsplit: Don't confuse ′ with `. ¶ And with that, I'm leaving Wikipedia for a few hours (and not only in order to avoid the risk of screwing something else up, though there is that too). -- Hoary (talk) 00:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Second attempt! (I wonder how many mistakes I made this time around.) -- Hoary (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Hoary, for this review I think you got almost everything right. When the {{explain}} tag is resolved, then the article is again eligible for promotion. For ALT1, if you cannot verify the source, you can either accept it "in good faith", go with the other hook instead, order the source from a library so you can verify it. Preferably you should do one of the first two. For the image, "Rollover text" means whether there is alt text, which there is. I hope this helps. epicgenius (talk) 14:30, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Oh, alt text. Yes, that could reasonably have been called "rollover text" back in the days of Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or thereabouts. I thought they meant the kind of rollover text that you're likely to get from this sentence if you let your cursor linger long enough (but that I don't remember from any image within a Wikipedia article). I'll go back there and emend my comment/question/request accordingly. -- Hoary (talk) 22:20, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Hoary, valereee also asked the question on the WT:DYK page and got an answer there, if that helps. As stated there, I don't think the promoters care too much about the presence of alt text (and as I said on that page, the caption in the DYK-image template automatically becomes the alt text). epicgenius (talk) 22:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the handholding, epicgenius. I think and hope I've now dealt with that candidate properly. -- Hoary (talk) 22:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

@FlushingLocal: I’ll stop with the edit. I do wish to discuss about the YouTube steam though. A.R.M. 21:15, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Cunard Building (New York City)

On 19 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cunard Building (New York City), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Great Hall (pictured) of New York City's Cunard Building was formerly used as a post office? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cunard Building (New York City). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Cunard Building (New York City)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

--valereee (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Per Scholas

If you're looking for another NYC fix-up project, Per Scholas. Apparently, they used to be in the BankNote building, which I only discovered by noticing their banner hanging over the door in one of the LPC report photos! The current article is close to WP:G11 material, but could probably be turned into something reasonable. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:51, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

RoySmith, ah yes, I've heard of them. Thanks for the heads up. I think they're notable, but it really needs better sources. On a related note, lots of topics relating to the Bronx (and NYC in general) lack good coverage. Currently I'm working through buildings near South Ferry in Manhattan, and it's surprising how little information these articles have, despite being part of one of the busiest tourist destinations in the city. epicgenius (talk) 14:59, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Epicgenius, http://jobstobuildon.org/pages/partners.html at least confirms their old address at BankNote. I first heard of Per Scholas about 6 years ago, when I did a little volunteer teaching for a robotics course that was being given there. They're down around 138th street now.

On a related topic, I've been thinking for a long time that a Bronx edit-a-thon would be a good thing, but I'm afraid I don't have any experience organizing that sort of thing. Would you be interested? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:10, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Great work on the Plaza

I noticed that I could not discern a connection between the Plaza Hotel and the italicized part of your addition. Can you reword it?

• F. Scott Fitzgerald's 1925 novel The Great Gatsby features the characters Nick Carraway and Jordan Baker having a conversation in the tea garden at West Egg. Another scene in the novel features a confrontation between title character Jay Gatsby and Tom Buchanan in a suite at the Plaza Hotel.--Quisqualis (talk) 16:59, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

@Quisqualis: Thanks. I actually removed this from the Plaza Hotel article as being unsourced, though. Also, I'm pretty sure the "West Egg" addition was vandalism, made by an IP user two months ago (original text said Plaza Hotel). epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Bronx edit-a-thon

RoySmith, I would be interested in attending a Bronx edit-a-thon (provided it's easy to reach). As for actually organizing the edit-a-thons, you may want to contact the Wikimedia NYC board president, Megs, or email wm-nyc(_AT_)wikimedia.org about your idea. Maybe Pharos or Jim.henderson might have some advice too. epicgenius (talk) 16:37, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Last month's Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Fordham/1Lib1Ref and DH was poorly publicized and lightly attended, though the few newbies who did get there seemed promising. We discussed it briefly last night at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/February 2020. Living in Manhattan I think Fordham Rose Hill is a convenient location, but some think it's a long walk from the subway. Ilovepiday is the one to contact about organizing something there with more publicity both on-wiki and on-campus. Preliminary contacts now might set up an edit-athon after our annual March Madness busy season. Oh, in past years we have done events at Hostos Community College on the Grand Concourse. That, at least, is right next to the B&D subway line. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:22, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Jim.henderson, sounds great, thanks. epicgenius (talk) 13:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

deep doubts about speedy redirect of orders of magnitude (volume)

You say that before resurrection of aforementioned page contents, a discussion should take place. I have given my opinion on the talk page with the clear goal to reinstate the previous article. The decision for dumping a host of information that is perfectly in line with the other orders of magnitude articles leaves me incredulous and wondering whether all facts and implications have truely been considered. I personally don't think so. -- Kku (talk) 06:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Kku, sorry, I don't remember being involved with any discussions regarding this article, The actual deletion discussion was here, with which I was not involved. I was simply upholding the result of the AfD. epicgenius (talk) 12:01, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

That's a big part of the trouble: You were upholding the result of a discussion that appears to not have involved significantly more than 2 disputants. Know what I mean? -- Kku (talk) 13:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Kku, sorry, I did not see this message before now. You may restore the article if you wish, but please ensure that it actually has sources, or else the article will be nominated for deletion again. epicgenius (talk) 17:21, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

List of New York City Parks Relating to Jewish Culture

Why are you proposing deletion for this page? Do you find it easier to delete than to make the necessary corrections? This list is the only detailed list available anywhere on the subject of NYC Parks relating to Jewish names.

@Queens Historian: I think there is a misunderstanding. I actually voted to "keep" the article. It is Loksmythe who is proposing deletion. epicgenius (talk) 17:20, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

@Epugenius: Got it. My apologies. I'll take it up with Loksmythe.--Queens Historian (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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