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Second Battle of Athenry

Regarding the Second Battle of Athenry, is the military infobox correct as in later battles (just one year) Donnchad O'Brien was allied with the Anglo-Normans and Muirchertach Ó Briain was battling them? -Achtung101 (talk) 04:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Iollan/Uilliam Mac an Leagha

Hello! I noticed that you are the creator of the Iollan Mac an Leagha / Uilliam Mac an Leagha article. I wondered if I could pick your brains about the possibility that Iollan and Uilliam are different people? Paul Walsh certainly thought so, pointing out that the scribe always signs himself 'Uilliam', never 'Iollan', in his MSS and that Iollan and Uilliam are completely distinct forenames. Of course, James Carney (and, I think, Francoise Henry?) have said otherwise, so there doesn't appear to be a scholarly consensus on this (not enough people have written about this guy to reasonably expect one). But do you think there's a good argument for distinguishing Iollan the father of Connla, Eóghan, and Maoleachloinn from Uilliam the scribe of the listed MSS in the article? I didn't want to go making radical alterations without checking if you knew of a rebuttal of Walsh's arguments on the matter. Thanks! ANB (talk) 03:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reponse! I'll try to dig out a few references when I get time & perhaps lay out the evidence in the article and let people come to their own conclusions. I have a good many unpublished research notes on Uilliam Mac an Leagha and his MSS, but most of what I have will fall foul of WP:NOR. Also kudos for all the work you've done creating and improving medieval Irish articles. It's mightily impressive, and a much needed contribution to a v. underserved area of wikipedia! ANB (talk) 14:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for those links. I'll look into doing that, just need the day job to slow down a bit so I get the time! ANB (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tom Costello (Galway)

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Non-notable person. Clearly does not meet WP:POLITICIAN. Being mayor of an Irish city is a largely ceremonial host, held by a councillor for a one-year term. It does not make Costello notable.

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Proposed deletion of Pádraig Conneely

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Proposed deletion of Declan McDonnell

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Nomination of Declan McDonnell for deletion

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Nomination of Pádraig Conneely for deletion

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Gaelic nobility of Ireland

I've gone ahead and made a little reclassification here, broadly supported by tradition and scholarship. The trouble is that we're talking about two maternal line semi-cadet branches of the dynasty with the worst human rights record in the history of Northern Europe, and some people are still sensitive about it. The House of Ivar have the unique distinction of making themselves hated everywhere they went, except the Isle of Man. They smashed up more of England than Ireland, made themselves masters of Scotland for a period, periodically raided in Wales, and everywhere seem to have made the majority of their wealth from slaving. You would think they should have died out, yet descendants of Ragnall, Sitric, and probably Gofraid are still to be found plentiful.

People in Munster have known since day one that the O'Donovans are proper half-breeds and denying it is impossible. The Clann Somhairle, on the other hand, used to admit it but then either forgot or slowly buried it, at first deliberately. Even today, after over (at least) a half century of attempts to expose them the majority would seem to still be in denial.

You have a better sense than I do. Does it all come down to the slaving, and so on? Is that still the problem, that monster in the port city with his raiding parties leaving little scars on the landscape where people once lived? Or is that forgotten and is there another reason why his descendants became proper Gaels? Was it more the Norman invasion? DinDraithou (talk) 20:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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Tomas Mac Uchtraigh

Regarding this, the Tomas in question is not Uhtred's son but his grandson; he was later mormaer of Atholl by marriage. He's "Mac Uchtraigh" the same way Somerled's grandsons are also "Mac Somhairle". See this galloway genealogy illustrating them. Confusingly, there is another Thomas of Galloway, bastard son of Alan/Ailean (involved in the Revolt of Gille Ruadh). Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 22:25, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Seamus 'ac Cosgair for deletion

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Article is now userfied at User:Fergananim/Seamus 'ac Cosgair. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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Geraldine Feeney

Hi, I have reverted your recent edit here, as both categories you added were already in the article. It helps to read an article properly before editing it. Snappy (talk) 19:24, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Thomas of Galloway again

Thomas again. Did an article on the guy you edited about a while ago. It's at Thomas of Galloway (primary usage I think, the other guy is now at Thomas of Galloway (bastard)). Also did articles on Aodh Méith and Áed in Macáem Tóinlesc, getting those O Neills started. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 22:49, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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Overcategorisation

Hi. I checked this edit of yours and many others. You added category: Irish writers in pages already in category:Irish female writers. Since the latter is more specific the first is redundant and should be removed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:27, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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• The only material I copied was her bibilography. All else was my own, based upon the cited external links, and much minimised. Fergananim (talk) 20:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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• It WAS rewritten in my words. With that in mind, I'm removing the note. Fergananim (talk) 11:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)