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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Finesseman (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I am urgently requesting an appeal to this erroneous and unjust block. This is EXTREMELY unfair and frustrating. I am not in ANY way connected to any other account. I have nothing to do with any other account, as your investigation, if conducted effectively, should reveal. The entire reason for this block seems to be shared opinions by different users. If this indicated real sock puppetry, then you would have to block every user who believes in gun control. Frankly, I cannot understand why similar views should bring a response like this when another editor's heavy handedness does not. I cannot speak for anyone else, but in the name of fairplay and decency you really should consider my appeal and unblock me. Thank you for your consideration. Finesseman (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)finesseman[reply]

Decline reason:

Per WP:DUCK (obvious sock/meatpuppet edits). OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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I am urgently requesting an appeal to this erroneous and unjust block. This is EXTREMELY unfair and frustrating. I am not in ANY way connected to any other account. I have nothing to do with any other account, as your investigation, if conducted effectively, should reveal. The entire reason for this block seems to be shared opinions by different users. If this indicated real sock puppetry, then you would have to block every user who believes in gun control. Frankly, I cannot understand why similar views should bring a response like this when another editor's heavy handedness does not. I cannot speak for anyone else, but in the name of fairplay and decency you really should consider my appeal and unblock me. Thank you for your consideration. Finesseman (talk) 21:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)finesseman[reply]

Personal Insults[edit]

Personal insults, like you did here [1], can get you blocked on wikipedia. I am giving you notice. 208.120.47.96 (talk) 03:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I am a little shocked and saddened that my appeal of my block was denied so quickly. On what basis has this decision been made? Has any type of formsl investigstion been conducted? As a ew user, I will appeal to the fairness of the editors. What more can I do other than deny any connection to newyorkborn? How do I prove a negative. I will cooperate in your investiation in any way possible. but frankly, I find the handling of this matter unfair and capricious. What should I do now? Please advise and inform me as to the basis of your refusal of my appeal. Finesseman (talk) 22:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)finesseman[reply]

Decline reason:

The investigation was conducted here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Newyorkborn. You, as well as two other IP addresses, were identified as obvious sockpuppets of Newyorkborn based on editing similarities and your apparently intimate familiarity with the issue right from the start of your editing history. Please request unblocking from your main account. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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After long and thoughtful deliberation, I have decided to leave the Wikipedia community. Not just as an Editor, but as a User. As someone who was new to the community, I joined with a sense of excitement and a desire to contribute. After just a few days, however, I find myself in the impossible and maddening position of having to defend myself against these ludicrous charges. Your "investigation" and "evidence" consist of nothing more than the accusations of one obsessive and dictatorial but clearly very popular editor, and some shared opinion about "similar editing styles" between me and newyorkborn. As I have stated since this surreal situation began, I have no connection whatsoever to newyorkborn, or to St Johns University. Any similarity to his editing style is merely the result of being new to the site and following the protocol set by an editor whose style I admired, whose points I agreed with and who honestly was one of my first influences on the site. Under the circumstances, I would think this similarity is natural. My "immediate knowledge"of the subject matter as you put it in your rejection of my appeal is simply due to my thorough reading of the page, my own research and my passion for the subject matter and the project itself. As far as any connection in IP address, this is impossible and inexplicable. Has anyone actually verified this? Supposedly, newyorkborn enters his posts from St Johns University in Queens. All of my posts, both day and night have been made from Brooklyn, NY, where I live and work. If anyone had bothered to contact me or had conducted a legitimate investigation they would have known this. If any editor in the name of fairness, wishes to contact me, I can be reached at FinessemanNY@aol.com. I pointedly said in my earlier posts that I would contribute in any way possible to a LEGITIMATE investigation into this matter. Otherwise, this will be my final contribution to "the community" after far too short a stay. If and when the truth ever comes to light, I feel I am entitled to an apology for this outrageous situation and how it has been handled. Otherwise goodbye Wikipedia. Finesseman (talk) 12:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)finesseman[reply]