User talk:Garb wire

Ref Desk policies question

Just a quick note to let you know that the question about Ref Desk policies that you posted to the Humanities Ref Desk has been moved to the Reference Desks talk page. Gandalf61 23:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Question moved from reference desk

There are huge remarks of racial discrimination in work places practiced in the US. Research has recently revealed that Lighter skin from countries like Bangladesh, India and Other Asian countries will get prefered treatment in the US in work places. This comes as a shocking revealation in today's age of globalisation and freedom.

The racist remarks in Big Brother serial against a famous Bollywood actress also adds more spice to the manifestations of differences in skin color and treatment of asians in western countries.

My question is where exactly is freedom practiced? How can American freedom be compared to the Indian caste system which still exists in isolated pockets.. Or is it a civilsed form of casteism perpetrated by the west against people?? Or is the world still a slave of freedom ?? Kindly elucidate.....

Garb wire 19:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

An invitation to debate is not suitable here. This is a reference desk to provide guidance in answering questions. There are many bulletin boards on the Inrernet. --Wetman 19:49, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

This was not a question meant to spark a debate instead it focused on the hardships faced by millions of minority communities in the west. Subtle differences in the subconscious mind cant be taken to an extreme extent.Its a fact that cant be ignored Garb wire 20:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Laws exist in the US (and beyond) that prohibit racial discrimination in the workplace. The enforcement of these laws is perhaps an issue, but the laws are on the books. The difficult with these laws is proving discrimination, methods of reporting them (it is difficult for an individual to take their own employer to court as they are liable to be looked upon unfavourably by the employer for doing so) and even public support (which may turn cynical on the basis of media-reports about isolated cases showing the law being abused).

Freedom is practiced around the globe, indeed all nations have some form of freedom. The question of how much freedom nations have is interesting and a quick look at Index of Economic Freedom will show you a list for 'freedom' economically. Also the table at the bottom links to a lot more entries about political rights/liberty/press fredom etc. etc. Freedom does not prevent prejudice from occuring. It does not prevent the distasteful comments made by people on TV shows from occuring. Indeed free speech covers the fight for people to be allowed to say whatever they believe.

You can compare the laws of America to that of India and see which you believe is more free, but, ultimately, neither freedom nor globalization can prevent prejudice and racism. The law cannot change a person's mind, society cannot enforce mind-control, it cannot even force control over our actions - as a result until such a time that nobody holds prejudice/racist views these unfortunate side-effects of society will remain. ny156uk 18:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The point of contention is that the American Society lays a heavy emphasis on personality traits. Racist abuse is still prevalent in THe UK . The harrassment revealed in Big Brother is a vivid example. No one can control the mind and thats why the concept of freedom is being abused in the US and there is only emphasis on desires. There are several unfortunate effects of globalization but when it comes to accepting the American Culture in the Asian and other third world countries such acts of insanity is accepted without any criticism. There is a wide double standards out here. 12:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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