User talk:I dream of horses/2020/January

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– Utopes (talk) 04:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

IP addresses in the 79.xx.xx.xx range

Hi. I notice you've given at least two welcomes to and even responded to an IP editor in the 79.xx.xx.xx range who asked for your assistance in editing/adding charts to articles. Editors in this range are likely to be Cardicharts, who is based in Italy and extensively adds year-end and weekly charts to articles, including the Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian charts. If you see this editor again (using another IP, perhaps), please report them to Ad Orientem or to ANV and link to the above LTA page hosted in Ad Orientem's userspace. Thanks. Ss112 10:45, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Ss112, right, the request seemed a little fishy to me.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 23:55, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Moved barnstar here at 07:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Wisbech Society

Hi, I'm confused by your statement] that you removed WP:NPOV sections from Draft:Wisbech Society before moving it to draft. Could you help me understand how the history of the historical society and its publications violated WP:NPOV? Thanks! Schazjmd (talk) 19:35, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Schazjmd, statements like "...stimulating an interest in the preservation of the architectural beauty of the town, encouraging the creation of good modern buildings worthy of preservation" seemed a bit WP:PEACOCKy to me. I did restore one section, which on second look, seems fine.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Broadcasting reform

I was expanding the article when I got your message and it ended up recreating the article as only the section I was editing (what a mess) so I had to copy and paste back the original version. Long story short there are now 3 journal articles cited in the article - is that enough to keep it in mainspace? I'm still working on it. I'm going to move it to another title so I guess it can be moved to that draft space if needed but I don't think it's necessary. Sorry about the confusion! Dartslilly (talk) 19:58, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Dartslilly, oh, it's fine on your part. Guess I should've given you more time.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:02, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from 9plus10

I dream of horses Hi, I have added more sources to my draft article entitled "Langelier Boulevard", an article I wrote today about the well-known thoroughfare in Montreal, Canada called Langelier Boulevard. Please review them and please review my article. Thanks. 9plus10 (talk) 05:15, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

9plus10, per this question and answer, no; your draft needs a new set of eyes.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from 9plus10

Hi, Can you explain what you meant by "my draft needs a new set of eyes"? What I did was that I took the already existing Boulevard Langelier article on the French Wikipedia, I translated it, and then I added more to it, citing more sources in the process. As a Montrealer, I happen to know quite a lot about that street and I would appreciate it if my draft article can get approved soon so that I can link it with the Boulevard Langelier article on the French Wikipedia. Thanks. 9plus10 (talk) 03:48, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@9plus10: What I mean is that most of the time, drafts benefit from another perspective that having someone else review it can provide. I'm not obligated to accept/decline your draft so you link from another language Wikipedia. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:31, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Stepmars

Re: Sidney Goodwin (artist) moved to draftspace I was in the process of editing this article when you moved it and I was not aware you had done so. I have now completed and resubmitted but the unfinished draft should now be deleted. Can you do that for me as I can't see how it's done. Thanks, Stepmars

Stepmars (talk) 09:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Stepmars, the draft is now a redirect. Your request is, functionally speaking, already  Done.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Estefano Isaias Dassum

G5?-- Deepfriedokra 08:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, Ultraexactzz speedily deleted that page under 3 CSD criterion, G5 being one of them. I can't see it now. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

No proble, I couldn't figure out who thebanned editor was.-- Deepfriedokra 03:34, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, I do recall finding an article with an article creator that was blocked for spam. The article was CSD-able regardless of who wrote it, but I added a G5 on top of the other two criteria. Perhaps this was the article I'm thinking of. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Amrabino4wiki

Hello, I am the author of Boshke Beats Records article that you are currently reviewing. I would like to understand your concerns further. In particular with aspects of the article are found uncited. Thank you. Andrew Amrabino4wiki (talk) 17:10, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Amrabino4wiki, you cited sources that either aren't reliable, or lack any significant mention. The links in the message I gave you should provide more information, as does this summary page. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I dream of horses, Please give a specific example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:4000:DD36:1413:2FB5:CDE4:D45D (talk) 04:42, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

If you forgot to log in (please do, it hides your IP address), then I'll point out that I gave a few examples in my message to you already.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:48, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I dream of horses, I see your comments about facebook, discogs. Please elaborate. I can understand the issues with Facebook and will remove where possible. However, discogs, is a reputable and a reliable source, it is the largest online music database. Also, why are existing links to wikipedia articles are not notable? Please elaborate. I am happy to make all the needed changes to get this article published.

@Amrabino4wiki: Discogs doesn't provide a significant mention, which would be at least a paragraph at bare minimum.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Discogs is user-generated, which makes it unreliable. (WP:RSP#Discogs) — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:42, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of speedy deletion for Your Heart Breaks page

The page is all new writing, and I expect has more noteworthy citations than the previous incarnation. The band has been around for 21 years and almost every member has their own Wikipedia page. Lewishhh (talk) 08:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Lewishhh, WilyD seemed to agree with you. The CSD is now off.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:34, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Though, as I indicated there, it's only procedural. AfDs closed as "soft delete" don't count as "discussions" for the purposes of speedy deletion criterion G4. I have no opinion about the article, nor no sense of whether it would pass a new AfD:. WilyD 05:50, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

WilyD, I didn't realize that. Thanks for telling me.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:11, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Castor KakuWakako

dear "I dream of horses"

Thanks for reviewing the wiki “Wakako Kaku” page I created.

The source of the citation was unknown. I'm sorry.

The text of "＠ Yasuhiro Yotsumoto" The last line of this wiki-Wakako Kaku page indicated the source. (Wakako-Kaku Kaku's achievements featured in the Poetry International Archives. Quoted from) https://www.poetryinternational.org/pi/site/poet/item/13889/31/

However, the link was not explicitly indicated as a source of text for "Yasuhiro Yotsumoto".

I will correct this mistake. And I want to post again.

Is my action correct? Castor KakuWakako (talk) 02:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Castor KakuWakako: Do you mind linking to the draft/article that you're talking about?  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Castor KakuWakako

Castor KakuWakako (talk) 04:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC) Thank you for your reply.

I am sorry that my description is hard to understand.

But now. The article I created has already been deleted by Justlettersandnumbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Wakako_Kaku

I will create an article for "Wakako Kaku" again.

I write an article that reflects your suggestions.

OK?

...I'm japanese and i'm sorry for bad english

@Castor KakuWakako: Have you tried to edit the Japanese Wikipedia? That might be easier if that's your native language.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Castor KakuWakako

Castor KakuWakako (talk) 07:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC) Hi. Is it midnight? Is it morning? Thank you for your reply.

Judgment of WIKI in Japan is loose. This is the first time it has been deleted. I am surprised.

However, I found out that there was a lack of references to write on foreign wikis. A Source of music award. A Source of instructor achievements at the university. A source whose husband is a rakugo entertainer.

Identify such sources. And I will post again.

Thank you!

@Castor KakuWakako: It's actually okay to have non-English sources, or even offline sources, on the English wikipedia. What matters more is that there's a paragraph or two on the subject of the article in the source, and that the source wasn't paid for by anyone employed by/related to the subject article or their competitors.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:14, 10 January 2020 (UTC) (fixed ping at 04:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC))

A message from Castor KakuWakako

Castor KakuWakako (talk) 08:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC) You are my good mentor. Thank you for responding to my lack of knowledge. I am preparing an article now. Also at a later date.

@Castor KakuWakako: You're welcome. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 08:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Kerastus717

Thanks for the comment on the Chief Pat draft, I was unaware of the previous draft from Bbb23. Let me know if there's anything else you see on the draft to improve upon to get the draft pushed through - cheers! Kerastus717 (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Kerastus717, yeah, that's believable, parallel inspiration sometimes happens. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:19, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

How to retrieve and publish Page Again

Hey. I have created an page Shreyans Bokadiya with all notable references but that was deleted yesterday night. Please help me to retrieve or please create an page for me. HimanshiBokadiya (talk) 03:28, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

HimanshiBokadiya, it would seem that you recreated Shreyans Bokadiya, but then replaced it all with only one word: "work". If this was an accident, then perhaps you should start over with a draft at articles for creation. There you can take your time with writing an article.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Diannaa. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Gay Latino Los Angeles: Coming Of Age, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 04:06, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Castor KakuWakako

Castor KakuWakako (talk) 05:11, 14 January 2020 (UTC) Hello. I was able to post an article by reflecting your advice. Thank you.

@Castor KakuWakako: You're welcome.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:14, 14 January 2020 (UTC) (fixed ping at 03:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC))

Article you validated.

I left a comment on the Clickity Clack article at User talk:Bbb23. Stretchrunner (talk) 21:40, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Stretchrunner, looks like Bbb23 doesn't wish to speak of it further, and I'll respect his decision. To be explicit, I'm replying to acknowledge your talk page message. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Atlantic306. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Shreyans Bokadiya, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Atlantic306 (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Atlantic306, I'm guessing you either did this by accident, or you did it to inform me the article was speedily deleted.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:14, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

• • Hi, there was a discussion a while back on the NPP talkpage that decided articles nominated for deletion should be unreviewed incase the nominator lost track of them if the speedy was removed wrongly by the creator or sockpuppet etc, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

    Atlantic306, I wasn't aware of this discussion. Thank you for telling me.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Hugsyrup. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Hemanth Muddappa, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Hug^syrup 08:58, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

giving advice about sources

I often say "this needs more than one source", . It isn't actually true that "Articles about living people in particular would need around five good sources." DGG ( talk ) 19:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know the background, but I don't think either one is necessarily correct. I would say that a BLP should have sufficient sources to verify the content. A one-paragraph stub about a Nobel Prize winner may only need 2-3 sources, but a five-paragraph article would definitely need upwards of a dozen. It's entirely a case-by-case basis. Primefac (talk) 20:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

@DGG and Primefac: I suppose we're all right, in a way. I tend to say "five" because in #wikipedia-en-help, we tend to say 3-5 sources that are WP:42-worthy proves notability, and "five" would leave room for one or two sources not being reliable, independent, or lacking a significant mention. If there's at least two or three 42-worthy sources, you can always stubbify a draft by removing unverified information before accepting it. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:44, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

(1)We're confusing several different concepts. A one paragraph stub about a winner of a major prize would need exactly one source. It ought to have more. A one paragraph stub about the winner of a major prize ideally should be expanded with more content and references.

(2) In deciding whether to accept a draft the formal requirement is that it would likely survive in mainspace. Most of us ask for a little more than that, perhaps that it will not be reasonably challenged in mainspace (and that it not be so poorly written or referenced that people question whether it should be deleted). Some reviewers have wanted a higher quality before accepting; I think that's expecting too much of the newcomers.

(3)In advising people what to write, I do not like to give a fixed number, which give the wrong impression about how we make decisions: I think it's better to use qualities, for which the most appropriate word is usually "adequately" --but in a topic where articles are unreasonably questioned, sometime "very adequately". Sometimes the area is so difficult that I will say something like "I think it probably will be accepted, but that does not mean it necessarily will." or even "if Wikipedia ran the way I think it should, this would be accepted, but the way things are, I'm not at all certain--but nobody can accurately predict, so take your chances. " For areas where articles I think we shouldn't have are accepted, I let others judge the article. DGG ( talk ) 05:16, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

We all have different styles. But there should be some consistency in standards. Perhaps the best way to express a wording that is not exactly the actual guideline, is (as in my examples above), to use wording like : "I suggest that ..." or "I think... " , or "in my opinion..." DGG ( talk ) 06:29, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Primefac and DGG:, right, that's probably a more honest way to phrase things.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:33, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Untitled

Moved from user page Primefac (talk) 19:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello I dream of horses, can you please help me with getting the text Draft:Noel Francis Newsome on to AfC? Thanks in advance for all your help. Kreutzbruder (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Kreutzbruder, what you do mean? Do you mean that you want your draft approved?  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:47, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I would greatly appreciate that, if you can. Kreutzbruder (talk) 07:41, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Kreutzbruder,  Doneas a comment on the draft.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Noel Francis Newsome has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Noel Francis Newsome. Thanks!  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Dshibshm

-DANO- (talk) 03:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC) I dream of horses My created page: I will check for cites. Will you please allow it back?-DANO- (talk) 03:59, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Dshibshm, please put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft when you're done. Thank you.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:53, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

How do I access the page?-DANO- (talk) 02:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Dshibshm, it's at Draft:The Mandela Effect (movie).  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 02:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Castor KakuWakako

Castor KakuWakako (talk) 06:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC) Hi, it's already been a few days. Not resolved yet. I need your advice. I had a friend point out the problem.

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Hello. We have just published a message to Articles for creation help desk, but we are currently seeking a support for the following situation. Thank you so much for your kind help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#01:43:14,_22_January_2020_review_of_submission_by_Castor_KakuWakako

Castor KakuWakako, it seems that it was only a few hours, but I replied there, anyways.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from PabloTesco

Hi I recently created a page for 'Development and Resources Corporation', I understand the fact you moved it to a draftspace, but I did not want it to be part of the David Lilenthal page, is there a way to change the title back without publishing it fully yet?PabloTesco (talk) 16:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC) PabloTesco (talk) 16:03, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

PabloTesco, there's already a Draft:Development and Resources Corporation. I'd just concentrate on improving one draft at a time if I was as inexperienced as you are.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 16:06, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

A message from Kreutzbruder

I dream of horses, thanks a million for your help and advice! Kreutzbruder (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC) Kreutzbruder (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)