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Khalistan

The article about Khalistan, apart from being nowhere near NPOV, is quite well written. I like that ref style... but when refering to a book use the ISBN number syntax... check out the help pages...

hydkat 19:01, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW

Hi, just dropped in to say that it was great work by you on INCOTW this week on Maruti Udyog. You, hydkat and Ganeshk have improved the article a lot. Keep up the good work!! --Gurubrahma 13:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Copyvios

Hi, thanks for bringing this to my notice. I saw his edits on "Vijayanagara Empire" but did not realise that it was a copyvio. I have removed that section completely as it could not be reverted to earlier version without disturbing the work done by others. You have done the right thing on "Vikramaditya VI" as well - however, the second step of reporting it on the link given in the copyvio notice hasn't been done and I have done it for you this time. I have also left a note on his talkpage - hope it helps. --Gurubrahma 10:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Jamnalal Bajaj

Thanks for the stub - oh, it was ok. And, let us collect more info to create a good page. --Bhadani 14:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Vikramaditya VI

There was no copyright violation on this page. I had explicitly given reference name and its author as "History of Karnataka" - By Mr. Arthikaje. The link you have quoted "www.ourkarnataka.com/states/history/historyofkarnataka23.htm" is the same as the one I have quoted. Please look carefully. Please put the deleted material/page back.

Dinesh Kannambadi

Hi, with reference to the above, I have replied again on his talkpage. btw, for Vikramaditya VI, it appears that you have not blanked the content. Whenever you tag an article as a copyvio, the content should be blanked. I have done it in this case. --Gurubrahma 05:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Rename

I've now renamed you. Best wishes, Warofdreams talk 01:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Useful references for Karnataka history

1. Mr Arthikaje i believe is associated with Archelogical Survey Of India in someway.Anyone doubting Mr. Arthikaje's material should refer to "Indian inscriptions" web page and you will see the names of historians he quotes. These historians work for Archelogical Surevy of India. Seems like OurKarnataka.Com,Inc is an incorporation who work much like we do, ie; collect info from reliable sources. I have written to them asking them who Mr. Arthikaje really is. Hopefully they will respond soon. Under any circumstance, if we try to doubt just about every one who provides info on Indian history, I dont think too much information would be available on indian history, given the convoluted nature of Indian polity and its constant manupalation of history. Dont get too suspicious about my content. you must go the wiki pages for Cholas/Marathas for example and you will see what kind crap they write, without references.

2. Dr. Mrs Jyotsna Kamat (my favorite reference) is a leading authority on Karnataka/Kannada history and winner of "Kannada Rajyotsava" award. She has written sevral books along with her late husband. Her late husband, Krishnanand Kamat is a famous historian/journalist who apprently won the Padma Vibhushan for his 50 year endearing work.

Here are some awards won by Dr. Mrs. Kamat. Karnataka Literary Academy Award 1988

(for the book Karnatakada Shikshana Parampare) Rajyotsava Award 1991 (for extraordinary contribution to Kannada language and literature through electronic media)

Best Kannada Woman Writer of 1995-96 and the K. Shamarao scholarship award.

A.S. Krishna Rao memorial grant and scholarship by Mumbai Karnataka Foundation, 1998

Vidooshi honor for non-creative Scholarship, 2001

Rev. Kittel Award for Research in Kannada Literature, 2001

Honorary President of Karnataka History Congress (2001)

The web page to learn more on Kamats, go to http://www.kamat.com/krishna/

I prefer not to rely on other small time articles i see every now and then. 3. www.templenet.com gives good insight into temples of Karnataka as well as of other regions.

dinesh kannambadi

Great!

I like your new name but it took some time to figure who it was ;) especially because you wanted to change it to AVNP. I see that Dinesh has responded above and I hope that the matter is resolved. However, please inform him that quoting anyone in the beginning of the article is bad form. Also, quoting some one by name doesn't help unless his affiliation is also mentioned. You may want to inform him that if he is related to Arthikaje his edits could potentially violate WP:AUTO. I think Dinesh is new to WP processes and hence we must give him some space. He seems to have finally come round to my explanation about copyrights and GFDL. --Gurubrahma 15:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how you determined that it was his previous avatar, but if it is the case, it's Ok, let's keep a watch. Thanks again for the info. --Gurubrahma 09:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

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nice change of name...

why indian cow though?

hydkat 12:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

No, its not offensive at all, especially after you get into trouble with one in rush hour traffic and your late for work... don't ask :(

hydkat 18:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

my references

When i mentioned Kamats and Arthikaje, I did not say they are my only sources. I have contributed quite a bit from sources like articles by historians and columnists. Just did not want to go into every detail. You will see this on other wiki pages like "kannada", "karnataka" , "Bangalore", "south India", "India monarchs" etc. It was i who brought about proof that the first inscription (890AD) with the name "begaluru" on it recorded by a historian in 1914 AD and that the Inscription is in "old Kannada" (just as an example), when a war was going on between telugu and Kannada guys about the origin of the name of my city.So please dont patronize me. The reason I like to Quote the Kamats and the Arthikaje is because i felt it adds credibility to the source, thats all. But I am learning. Thanks for your advice.

dinesh

New Timeline List

Created a page TimeLine of Maruti Udyog Ltd that linked to Maruti Udyog (as sugested by Ganeshk in the talk page) please take a look at it and edit if you wish.

hydkat(ballyhoo back :) 17:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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Karnataka Population.png

Sure, I'll include a legend to that image pretty soon. AreJay 15:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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Thanx for your invitation to esperanza...

I joined up... (got greeted immediately by sango123) they have a irc chat channel: see you here

hydkat(ballyhoo back :) 21:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks for your kind words on my talk page. I'll keep that dollar for next time I need a train ticket in the US :) Nach0king 09:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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Holi greetings

Hi, I am wishing you a happy Holi, the unique Hindu celebration of color and brotherhood among all members of the humanity. The festival falls on 15th March 2006. I have collected A Gift Pack of Quotations for you contained in the sections Do things Differently & Something More , which are part of the on-going discussion pertaining to my nomination of Idleguy for adminship. You are aware of the tradition that if you throw colored water on flames of burning Holika, you enable a Prahlad to emerge from the flames!!! I again convey Holi greetings to you and your family!!! --Bhadani 15:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Do wikpedians simply drop by and just to say Hi and find out whats going on... or do they not like other people wasting their time?? Plz do tell... btw, liked that dollar you sent nachoking... original

--hydkat(ballyhoo back :) 18:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Albert ekka Stamp.jpg

The template Template:PD-IndiaGov was deleted presumably because Indian government works are not actually in the public domain. Then User:Splash marked the image as lacking copyright information. Later Orphanbot removed the image from the article. You then added a fair use claim to the image but did not re-add the image to the article. All fair use images must be used in articles, so another bot User:Roomba marked the fair use image as needing to be deleted. As it now stands the image is fine and will not effected by any more bots. --Martyman-(talk) 21:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

"Fair Use" images in user namespace

I noticed that you have a gallery of the images you have uploaded to Commons and listed as fair use. Please remember that fair use generally only applies to images that are used within the encyclopedia—that is, to illustrate specific topics. Having this gallery is, while fun to look at (you've uploaded some great pictures!), not covered under fair use and therefore almost certainly in violation of US copyright law. If you have any questions about whether the use of a particular image in the user (or main) namespace is legal under fair use, consult WP:Fair Use or respond to this comment. (I've put your page on my watch list, so I'll see it.) Thanks much Seqsea (talk) 04:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I understand about your frustration... copyright is tricky business, and especially here on WP can get seem to get in the way of honest people not trying to cause damage. The important thing to remember is that while fair use is a nice "exception" to the copyright law, it is not blanket permission to include any image we want, anywhere we want. Seqsea (talk) 16:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greetings

HAPPY HOLI TO YOU!

File:Ociholi.gif

Happy Holi!

--hydkat 09:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the bucket, it will come in handy tommorow. But as for organic colors... nah! The synthetic colors are way too dangerous (not to mention a real headache to remove) for me or any of my frnds to give up :) I'll make sure no gets blasted in the eyes though. --hydkat 11:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for a bucket containing water. And Holi Hai! -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 12:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW

You had nominated Peshwa for the India colloboration of the week. But it failed to get selected. I removed it from the list since it is past one month since nomination. You may wish to renominate it if you want. Keeping you posted. Thanks for your contributions. - Ganeshk (talk) 21:08, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello!

Just dropped in to say hi! :) thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK} 13:18, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Crawford Market image problem

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Thanks, it's deleted. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:39, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

• Read in Nichalp's page that you are planning to take pics of Bombay. If possible, can you get a few pictures of Brabourne, Wankhede and Bombay Gymkhana. tia, Tintin (talk) 09:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

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Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

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Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

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