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April 2019

April 2019, Volume 5, Issue 4, Numbers 107, 108, 114, 115, 116, 117


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(Please excuse this post if it is a duplicate!)

NPP Newsletter User List

I am currently doing a newsletter for a rather small project. Right now I am manually updating a target list each month which is no big deal but also something I wouldn't mind seeing automated. How do you do the targets for the NPP newsletter? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

We use the newsletter list (Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter_list) and the Mass message system. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 20:32, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@Insertcleverphrasehere, I would like to find out more about the New Page Patroller training program. Thank you for your help, please comment on my talk page if you can help. Boisteroushamster (talk)

Hi Boisteroushamster, I'm currently taking a wikibreak at the moment, Barkeep49 is the other active trainer at NPP, have a chat with him and if he is unable to help I'll see what I can do. Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:39, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Boisteroushamster welcome to Wikipedia. I am another New Page Patroller (NPP), Barkeep49. While ICPH has his own criteria for what editors he'll accept into his training program I am going to suggest you're not quite ready for that yet. First, in order to get the permission you need to have at least 500 mainsapce edits and have been an editor for 90 days. Normally it takes even more experience than that. I strongly suggest you pick up a bunch more experience with Wikipedia before you think about NPP. I see you've added some user boxes - random page and recent page patrol are both great ways to get some experience. If you'd like I could offer some other suggestions as well. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:40, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 4

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (March 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the fourth issue of the new Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Miscellaneous


Enjoy your April Fool's, --DannyS712 (talk) 18:43, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 March 2019

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New Page patrol

Hi greetings, I would like to participate in New page patrolling. I approached you a few months ago and you conducted a test for me. You said I had better approach you after a few months. Now I am willing to do it. Please help, if you like. Regards.--PATH SLOPU (TALK) 08:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi mate, best take it up with Barkeep, as he has taken over the NPP school. Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 16:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
  • As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Cullen Old Church

Can I ask a favour. I agreed to patrol/review the above. Having done so, and the editor having taking on board some suggestions, it's absolutely fine. But I have apparently marked the article's Talkpage as patrolled, rather than the article itself. I've no idea how I did that, and no more idea how to properly mark up the article as patrolled. Any advice would be much appreciated. KJP1 (talk) 14:05, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Wishlist Implementation Process

The information at this discussion might be old news for you but if not, FYI. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:27, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

May you join this month's editathons from WiR!

May 2019, Volume 5, Issue 5, Numbers 107, 108, 118, 119, 120, 121


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Growth team updates #7

Welcome to the seventh newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Newcomer homepage release this week

Screenshot of newcomer homepage in Test Wikipedia, in English.
The main feature that the team has been working on over the last month is the newcomer homepage. This feature gives newcomers a place on the wiki to get oriented, learn about editing, and see their impact (see the accompanying screenshot from Test Wikipedia). We intend to release this feature to Czech, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias on May 2nd.

Like the other Growth team features, this will be deployed in a controlled experiment, in which half of newcomers will have access to their homepage and half will not. Users with the feature will be able to access it by clicking their username at the top of their browser, and it will only be available on desktop -- not mobile. Experienced users who want to see their homepage will be able to turn it on in their preferences.

Wikis receiving the newcomer homepage can expect these things:

  • Additional questions will come to the help desk from the "help module" on the homepage.
  • Mentors who have signed up for the "mentorship module" will start to receive questions on their user talk pages.
  • More users may create and edit user pages through the "start module".
Mockups for potential designs of mobile homepage

Recent and future homepage development

The most important piece developed for the homepage over the last month is the "start module", which gives newcomers clear actions to take when they are new: add/confirm their email, go through a tutorial, start their user page. We learned about the need for this module from user tests last month. The next priorities for the newcomer homepage are:

  • Mobile design: to work well in mobile browsers, the homepage needs a separate design and engineering. See the accompanying mockups for potential mobile designs.
  • Features for discovery: only about 15% - 30% of newcomers will discover their homepage by clicking their username at the top of their browser. We are going to be designing additional ways for newcomers to find out about it.
  • Additional modules: the initial version contains some of the simpler modules. Potential upcoming modules include task recommendations and a feed of activity on the wiki.

Other updates

  • Help panel leading indicators: our team published data on the help panel's initial performance. The evaluation exposes some areas for improvement, but we think the help panel's behavior so far is healthy and that it is not having a negative impact on the wikis. We will be publishing additional data, making plans, and asking for community thoughts around the future of the help panel over the course of the next two weeks. If you are interested in trying out the help panel on your wiki, please let us know on our team's talk page.
  • Long term plans: the team had a week of planning meetings, in which we talked about some longer-term ideas for Growth work. Some of the top ideas are: to extend the newcomer homepage to help user's build their identity through a user profile, and to revisit the "engagement emails" project that the team put on hold. Over the next month, we will be asking for community conversation around how the team can spend our time in the next fiscal year, that starts in July.

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 5

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (April 2019). Hello everyone and welcome to the 5th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Until next month, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:22, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 April 2019

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.

Arbitration

  • In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically. All current administrators have been notified of this change.
  • Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

{{sources exist}} - add talk page link?

Afternoon :) Whenever I use {{sources exist}}, I find myself wishing that there was an option to include a link to some more specific comments on the talk page. Usually when one uses that template, there will be at least some search results that can be shared; sometimes it's even more specific, e.g. a couple individual sources that contain lots of material. A clear pointer to this info is certainly helpful. To my understanding, providing a link option need not translate into making the link mandatory (at least that how it seems to work in other templates). What do you think? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:19, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Sounds like a solid idea. feel free to add it yourself, otherwise I'll look into it this weekend. Should be easy enough to borrow some code from another template. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 20:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Elmidae, ping — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 20:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Alright. Not doing it right away - let's see who gets there first :) Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:14, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Status update?

? Atsme Talk 📧 04:27, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Atsme, Hi... this one was part of the wishlist request package, and is actively being worked on. I think they have this developed and will be rolled out soon. See [1] and it's talk page for more info. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
I believe it is already functioning now. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:56, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Barkeep49, Ah... yeah, from the Phab ticket it looks like it was planned to roll out on May 9th. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 22:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
On a related note if you're OK with it I'd like to move forward with sending out the next newsletter. Also there seems to be some support for another backlog drive this summer. See more here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:03, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Thx for the update & tech page link! yes Atsme Talk 📧 23:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Barkeep49, Yeah it looks like it needs a bit of a cleanup, but yeah it could go out. I guess the thing we want to decide is whether we want to run another backlog drive over summer. If so we should put a message in the newsletter saying so, and linking to a discussion on the noticeboard. Then we can start planning how we want this one to run. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 23:31, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019

Welcome to a special newsletter from the Growth team! This special newsletter is not about Wikimedia Foundation Growth team projects. Instead, it is a call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019. We think that many people who receive this newsletter may have something valuable to contribute to this space at Wikimania. We haven't translated the newsletter, because Wikimania's language is English.

Please see below for the message from the organizers of the Community Growth space at Wikimania.

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Wikimania 2019 is organized into 19 “spaces”, which are all accepting proposals for sessions. This message comes from the team organizing the Community Growth space.

Since you are interested b Growth team projects, and potentially involved in welcoming newcomers initiatives on your wiki, we would like to invite you to submit a proposal to the Community Growth space because of the actions you’ve done around newcomers on wikis. The deadline for submission is June 1. See below for Community Growth submission topics and session formats. Topics and sessions have to be in English.

In the Community Growth space, we will come together for discussions, presentations, and workshops that address these questions:

  • What is and is not working around attracting and retaining newcomers?
  • How should Wikimedia activities evolve to help communities grow and flourish?
  • How should our technology and culture evolve to help new populations to come online, participate and become community members?

Recommended topics: please see this link for the list for the list of recommended topics. If you do not plan to submit a proposal, you can also suggest additional topics here. If your topic does not fit into our space, remember that there are 18 other spaces that could welcome you sharing your knowledge and perspective.

Types of session. We prefer sessions that are participatory, interactive, promote conversations, and give a voice to parts of our movement that are heard less often. Please see this link for the list of recommended session formats.

Poster submissions. Posters are also a good way to introduce a topic, or show some results of an action. Please consider submitting one!

More information about the Community Growth space, topics, and submission formats is available on the proposal page.

Please submit your proposal. The reviews will happen at the beginning of June.

If you have questions about Wikimania in general, please ask them on the Wikimania wiki.

On behalf of the Community Growth leadership team, Trizek (WMF), 11:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello Insertcleverphrasehere,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.

News
Discussions of interest

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7242 Low – 2393 High – 7250

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June events with WIR

June 2019, Volume 5, Issue 6, Numbers 107, 108, 122, 123, 124, 125


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The Signpost: 31 May 2019

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 6

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (May 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 6th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Enjoy your summer, --DannyS712 (talk) 23:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

Administrator changes

removed Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický

CheckUser changes

removed Ivanvector

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
  • An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
  • An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

Technical news

  • The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
  • Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

Miscellaneous

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Growth team updates #8

Welcome to the eighth newsletter from the Growth team!

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

May was a busy month, and we apologize for a slightly late newsletter.

General news

  • The Growth team will begin to work with the Arabic Wikipedia community as a new target wiki. This is in addition to Korean, Czech, and Vietnamese Wikipedias.
  • Several members of the Growth team attended Wikimedia Hackathon. To see what we worked on and learned, read this update (in English).
  • Wikimania 2019 is coming up in August. The conference will include a "Community Growth" space, for sessions about how our communities expand through software and programs.

Early results from newcomer homepage release

A newcomer homepage on Czech Wikipedia (displayed in English language)
  • The newcomer homepage was deployed in Czech and Korean Wikipedias on May 6 for desktop users. It is deployed in an A/B test, so that half of newcomers have access to the homepage and half do not. They access it by clicking on their username in their personal tools along the top of the window.
  • After about a month of usage, we see a few interesting trends. We think that the usage is going well so far, as we continue to work on the feature
    • About half of users who visit the homepage click on a link or button.
    • About half of users visit the homepage more than once, with about a fifth of users visiting on multiple days.
    • Users are interacting with all the different modules on the page -- there is no clear favorite.
    • Users have been asking questions to their mentors -- but not on the help desk.

Next steps for homepage

Mockup of mobile newcomer homepage
  • Because we are seeing good reactions to the homepage from the first users, we are prioritizing work that helps more users find their homepage:
    • Mobile homepage: the team is currently building the mobile version of the homepage. We tested this design with five users, giving us confidence that the design is strong.
    • Features to aid discovery: only a minority of newcomers who have a homepage will find their homepage on their own. The team is designing features that help newcomers learn where to find their homepage. The most important feature will point to the homepage link using a GuidedTour.
  • User tests showed that the most important thing to add to the homepage are clear task recommendations to help newcomers get started with editing right away. This is the module that we will be working on next.

Future of team in the next year

  • The Growth team has been working since September 2018, and we're now planning for the work we'll be doing for the next fiscal year, which begins in July.
  • Though we have not yet developed a feature that clearly increases growth in our target wikis, we believe that the features we have been developing have high potential to increase growth if we continue to work on them.
  • Therefore, the team will continue to work on the features we have started, and we will develop related features that improve the overall newcomer experience. These features may include:
    • Improvements to how newcomers can build their user pages and develop their on-wiki identity. See initial notes here.
    • Improvements to how newcomers receive notifications on-wiki and through email, so that they quickly find out if other users are contacting them.
    • Processes that help newcomers get awards or recognition for good work.
    • Ways for newcomers to see the activity on the wiki and find others who share their interests.
  • We will start discussions with communities to help us define these ideas before we work on them.

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Upcoming Wellington events

Just a note to let you know about some things coming up in Wellington you might be interested in.

  • Saturday 22 June: Wellington Meetup, the first in a series of regular informal meetups for Wellington Wikipedia editors, organised by organised by Einebillion (Victoria Leachman) and Ambrosia10 (Siobhan Leachman). 10:00–12:00, net-work space, National Library.
  • Sunday 7 July: Archives New Zealand Edit-a-thon, 10:30–3:00, Archives New Zealand, 10 Mulgrave St. BYO laptop, nibbles provided. There'll be a mix of brand-new and experienced editors working on the amazing Archives resources.
  • Saturday 6 July: another Wellington Meetup, same time and place – these will ideally run fortnightly. Mark your calendar.

Cheers, Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 00:46, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!

July 2019, Volume 5, Issue 7, Numbers 107, 108, 126, 127, 128


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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Insertcleverphrasehere,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.

PERM

Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.

Other news

School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 7

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (June 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 7th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Miscellaneous


Having published 6 issues of this newsletter, I decided it was time to move it out from my user space. It is now located at Wikipedia:Scripts++. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 11:45, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

The June 2019 Signpost is out!

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Hope everything is OK

You went out with a flourish in December but you've hardly been around at all this year. I guess this may be something to do with your relocation, but I certainly realise now how much I miss you being around at NPR and the actual vast amount of work you put into organising it. I think we need you back. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:28, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Kudpung, Thanks for the kind words. I'll keep it under advisement. If I'm honest I've been considering retiring, due to personal reasons. I'll try to make my decision soon one way or the other. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 23:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
I've often been on the brink of retiring myself, but while I realise that Wikipedia would easily live without me, I still believe that however low an ebb my participation may be (like the past 12 months), I can occasionally offer the project something. Even if it's only a knee-jerk. ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:32, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Insertcleverphrasehere, Sorry to see you go inactive. I hope life is going well for you. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:20, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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