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Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
  • A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect.
  • A request for comment asks if sysops may place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions?
  • There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.

Technical news

  • When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
  • When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
  • There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

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Draft article on Waleran I, count of Arlon

These ideas about the notability of individuals leave me baffled, since we have perfectly legitimate pages about, well, ship's cats. (I DO love cats, I have three). This was a person known through a single contemporary source. He must have been quite a relevant individual in his time, who likely held sway as feudal seigneur on several thousand people at least, and was the most distant patrilineal ancestor we can trace with any degree of certainty for VERY important people in power in centuries to come (the Luxemburgian emperors of the Holy Roman Empire). Beyond that, this man already had his page in the German Wikipedia, from which I simply translated, almost word by word, to get news of it to what I see as the "global" Wiki: the English-language one, despite being myself an Italian. Therefore, I'd ask to reconsider rejecting this out of hand: not because the article is "mine"(?), but as a historian (not a professional one, an amateur with a degree). It can be added anyway later that the article's sources are poor and could/should be better corroborated; but this is true of most of what we know, or believe to know, before the Late Middle Ages and the explosion in literacy and the use of paper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basil II (talk • contribs) 21:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Basil II, I agree with you that that this individual probably deserves an article, but I don't think I can accept the draft with only one source. Waleran I is mentioned in a lot of other webpages and books, so if you can find significant coverage from another reliable source the the draft will probably be accepted. I am not going to review the draft's merits again so that you get other reviewers' opinions. Personally, I find the basic standard of notability arbitrary myself, but it exists to make sure that we can maintain the encyclopedia and provide an objective standard of inclusion. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 00:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Suffusion of Yellow/hidetopcontrib.js

Hi, J947. Can you please change User:Suffusion of Yellow/hidetopcontrib.js to User:Markhurd/hidetopcontrib.js in both User:J947/common.js and User:J947 Public/common.js? I did not intend to maintain a fork of that script; that was only for testing purposes and I'd like to delete it. The scripts are identical except for the comments. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirects to pi

I noticed that you closed an RfD relating to various versions of pi with different numbers of decimal digits, but did not remove the RfD notices on most of the redirects. Also, your speedy close rationale only related to the first redirect and not the others. Did you miss the rest of them? I removed the notices since the discussion has been closed, but thought I should let you know. Lithopsian (talk) 20:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Lithopsian: The discussion wasn't correctly formatted and I assumed that only one of the redirects had been nominated. Thanks for catching that. But my speedy close still applied to the other redirects, as that discussion showed clear consensus to keep such redirects (and the one discussed at the old RfD was the longest one of those nominated at the new RfD, so one would imagine that the consensus would be equally great or stronger for the shorter redirects). — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
  • Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

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In for a refactor?

Hey J947, while I stand by my points, I do agree that some of my statements need a re-factoring. If I do so, would you mind re-factoring some of your own comment too? Thanks, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 00:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@NotReallySoroka: I would strongly recommend you read the guidelines on refactoring comments before continuing. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:56, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to refactor my comments. NotReallySoroka, I recommend that you clarify what you said in subsequent comments but do not alter any existing comments. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:19, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 01:22, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Language and linguistics request for comment

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Just checking

In your final sentence of this edit, I think you might mean "yes" rather than "no"? Thryduulf (talk) 12:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ah, yeah I did mean yes. Thanks for spotting that. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

removed Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

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Test Wikipedia

Hi. I don't believe the closer of the discussion would have accidentally ticked out the "suppress redirect" button when moving Test Wikipedia, especially given they were explicit in their closure statement that there was consensus for this not to be in mainspace. – Uanfala (talk) 12:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Uanfala: there were a lot of ambiguous statements in the discussion (including the close). By straight count (which is often a reasonable metric at RfD despite its failings) I thought that there were 4 people supporting deletion of Test Wikipedia and 6 supporting it to be kept in some form, so I inferred that the redirect should've been kept. I don't think that those counts are correct now anyway. (The closure I interpreted, likely wrongly, as should not exist as a mainspace disambiguation page.) I suppose I'm happy for the redirect to be deleted now as I likely misinterpreted parts of the discussion, but at the time I had thought that suppressredirect was missing the point – to be perfectly honest, I still think that to an extent: I think that a redirect to a helpful project-space disambiguation page is better than leaving readers and non-namespace-knowing new editors with these unhelpful search results, but YMMV. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi. My suppression of the redirect was not a mistake and Uanfala was correct that my closing statement alluded to the why. It would seem that if you disagree with a close, there are better ways to go about it. I'm not going to delete the redirect you created. I suspect someone will come along and send it to RFD again. Thank you for the ping, Uanfala. Killiondude (talk) 21:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've G7'd it. I misinterpreted parts of the discussion. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

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  • Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

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  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

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removed Emperor • Viridian Bovary
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Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

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Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

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