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Minas Hantzidis stats table

Hi there - ignoring for the moment the fact that the table is in an incorrect format (per MOS), my main concern is that the table is still largely incomplete and still partially unreferenced. As a consequence, I do not think it serves any real purpose or adds anything to the article. GiantSnowman 15:07, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

What does having a table with a majority of blank stats add to the article? GiantSnowman 12:56, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
So you basically just want to regurgitate what NFT says? GiantSnowman 13:26, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Well no, because Soccerway and Soccerbase provide Cup stats, not just league. Feel free to re-add the Hantzidis stats table - we can then search for Cup stats - but only if you introduce it in the correct format. GiantSnowman 13:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
kicker.de also provides Cup and European stats, but unfortunately not earlier than 10–15 years ago. I'll try to hunt up sources for Minas Hantzidis' cup stats and will then re-add the table (with the correct formatting). --Jaellee (talk) 14:20, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Great, thanks. GiantSnowman 18:58, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

re: Your revert at Edin Džeko

Hi. I am sorry seems like I made a huge mistake. For a moment I must have thought those edits were made today, since Dzeko had just scored in todays game against Blackburn in the FA Cup. A simple mistake with the dates. I am so sorry and I will take an extra second before my next revert to be sure I wont do the same mistake again. QED237 (talk) 23:23, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi there JAELLEE, AL "here",

could you please step up in this guy's article and help me (help WP better said!) with the following? It'll only take you five minutes if not less (i have already arranged the fields where i need your assistance, so everything will run smooooooooth):

1 - translation of some German references, not all; 2 (optional) - if you want to add anything else about his run-in with the Bayern board of directors, please feel free to do so.

Tschüss --AL (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

re: Your revert to David Alaba

Hi, JAELLEE,

The fact that I'm a native speaker of the Yoruba language may not necessarily validate my proof of David's father's heritage. However, the fact is; David's father was a Yoruba prince from Ogere Remo which is part of Yorubaland before becoming a rapper and Dj . I was going to include more inline citations to prove this point prior to your reverts to my edits. If however, you insist on excluding any evidence of his Yoruba ancestry. Please let me know as soon as possible.

Hi there JAELLEE, AL "here",

could you please be so kind (again, it'll take you less than one minute) and help out in this article's third reference? I am sure i translated the last one correctly, am almost sure i did the same to the first, only leaving out the one in the middle.

Thanks in advance, all the best as always --AL (talk) 16:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Your message

Thanks for pointing out about the language templates, but what are they used for then? Are they only for external links?--Mishae (talk) 22:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

O.K. Many thanks. However, you shouldn't have reverted an edit, since archiving refs is welcomed in Wikipedia.--Mishae (talk) 22:44, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Don't like when people do it though. Makes me feel that my edits were generally bad while yours were good.--Mishae (talk) 22:52, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Tell you what, just now I have added a link to a match in David Alaba article, I think its current. As a side note, if I am being hostile with my articles I am sorry. Due to my autism I can sometimes be hostile when it comes to articles, despite knowing of WP:OWN.--Mishae (talk) 22:57, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Since nobody commented below, I have another question to ask. You see, Wikipedia have two templates: one is {{WPSports}}, the other is {{WPBiography}}, both are sports related, but the latter one is sports and games, which might confuse people into believing that football is a game. Is it O.K. to use both? By the way, I am just looking for second opinion. Someone told me that its fine, so I added the template to some athletes (like over 500). If its not (and you will cite a guideline), then I will remove the {{WPSports}} template from athlete related articles (but then there should be a good reason for its existence). Many thanks in advance (whatever the outcome might be).--Mishae (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
I think you might miss understood my question: I'm talking about this. See, one is WPSports and the other one is WPBiography/sports and games.--Mishae (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Michael Ballack

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. At least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you.--Mishae (talk) 02:08, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

As a side note, I know that you are not a new user but your edit to Michael Ballack regarding spaces remind me of a beginner user (plus I need to use some kind of a warning template). Please don't do it anymore, it doesn't worth it.--Mishae (talk) 02:15, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
What a pile of shit! WP:DTTR. And I'm with Jaellee on this one. Jared Preston (talk) 08:09, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

ANI

Information icon This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Mishae (talk) 19:25, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Do you have any suggestions oh how to deal with Mishae? The above report was closed with the suggestion that we take it to ANI, but that may not be ideal. My question on the footy project talk page has not seen any responses. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:01, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I have no idea. I was offline yesterday evening and saw the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring only after it was already closed. I've read the discussion but I do not really understand what his problem is (That we put back the spaces? That we partly reverted his edits?) He was already blocked once for removing spaces and carriage returns from infoboxes so maybe going to ANI might help. But in the last few months I've seen it quite often that editors could get away with a lot of disruptive editing if they just complain loud enough about whatever and flood discussions with their posts until no one wants to be bothered with this topic anymore and nothing happens at all.--Jaellee (talk) 22:39, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
He saw read because I both adding a URL handler (http:) to his archives, restored the spaces (which he claims are not necessary) and possibly removed the line breaks he inserts before his archive URLs (which goes counter to his claim that spaces are not necessary). I'll comment if you go to ANI, but since we're dealing with a "cold case" (it happened yesterday) they may be reluctant to do anything. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I can still hope that he leaves football articles alone and bothers someone else in a different part of the Wikipedia. Then at least he wouldn't be my problem. --Jaellee (talk) 23:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
He's a German football fan and apparently, interested in Russian politics. I'm not sure that he will walk away from Bayern articles. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:00, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Javi Martínez

Whoops, sorry, I didn't see the citations, thanks for reverting me! GiantSnowman 12:27, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi there JAELLEE, longtime no "see"...

another "five-second" help i need from you if you please: could you finish the translation of this guy's last ref? Was ist ein blinder bitte?

Also, if you can/want to find more refs for this interesting career, please add them. I added mine in the end not as much to source him working with the coaching staff per the end of that sentence, i added them in the end as to source the entire storyline.

Now, profit from this message to say i'll be leaving WP for good after the World Cup, eight years as an editor now, feeling very wiki-tired, it's a neverending task. Feel free to ask me anything in the meantime, i'll assist to the best of my abilities.

Cheers --AL (talk) 01:01, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Thank you! I knew that "blind" in German is the same as in English, but did not know it was meant to be translated literally in this case. --AL (talk) 13:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Filippo Inzaghi

I've reverted your recent edit of my edit. I wrote the original wording, and the article from which I took the info was far less flattering than my original wording or the change I made. The Italian players were appalled by Inzaghi's technique. "Lack" of technique conveys this point better than "level." Please do leave the word "lack" in the article. For the record, I was a fan of Inzaghi's, and I think that Cruyff's assessment shows up the crackpot side of his mind. Regards Tapered (talk) 02:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Reference provided. Problem solved. Tapered (talk) 06:24, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


JAELLE..... Please stop being annoying... the German player explicitly says that he is a practicing Catholic and he has gone to Catholic churches while playing in Brazil! YOU WANT REFERENCES? THERE: http://portugues.christianpost.com/news/schweinsteiger-vai-a-igreja-catolica-antes-das-partidas-da-alemanha-na-copa-do-mundo-19715/

And nope, I m gonna waste my time reading how to make references on Wikipedia! I m not making this up myself ! There's the website and now stop being a pain the butt please! Go and do something more productive in life, please! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.179.110 (talk) 02:01, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Days

Sorry for doing it but the Guardian, Independent and BBC use them for a reason, plus I saw some users using them too. Or they are making a mistake? Like, dates don't change from year to year while days do. Personally I thought it was much in depth, but I guess I was wrong.--Mishae (talk) 20:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Park Joo-ho

Hello, I've noticed that FIFA has good accuracy on heights of football (soccer) players! Park Joo-Ho is listed at174cm by FIFA. http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/players/player=268411/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldenBoy25 (talkcontribs) 22:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Alexander Baumjohann

The Alexander Baumjohann article says he played for Schalke 04 II between 2005–2007. I can't find any sources saying he did. The only appearances I have found was during the 2010–11 which isn't in the Infobox football biography template. Kingjeff (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Besart Berisha

"Please have a look at the bottom of his infobox. It says there: Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only and correct as of 4 May 2014. 'Senior club appearances' means domestic league only – no cups, no continental matches, no friendlies. According to Soccerway, Berisha has 76 appearances and 48 goals for Brisbane Roar, so please stop putting false information in the infobox. --Jaellee (talk) 18:39, 4 August 2014 (UTC) According to kicker.de he played 12 matches and scored one goal in the Bundesliga for Hamburger SV and had an additional two appearances and one goal in the UEFA Champions League so I don't understand what your comment with regard to Hamburg means. --Jaellee (talk) 18:46, 4 August 2014 (UTC)"

It's not false information though, it's factual AND accurate. He played in total (including Asian Champions League games) 83 games for Brisbane, scoring 50 times so I fail to see how it is false information. Protenpinner (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

August 2014

Information icon Hello I'm Unknown222777 I'd like to say I'm a fan of Landon Donovan And he's retiring He didn't go to brazil but he was on the USMNT this year he did not quit in 2013 he is quitting in 2014 with the usmnt and The L.a Galaxy It looks like your the one that's doing vandalisim on the Landon Donovan Sincerely, Unknown222777 (Landon Donovan Fan) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown222777 (talkcontribs) 10:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I'm GoldenBoy25! Why are you removing James Rodriguez from the Messi Wiki? Rodriguez scored more goals than Messi, Robben, and Müller in the FIFA 2014 World Cup. He also assisted more goals. Messi remain scoreless after the group stages, and Rodriguez continue to score and perform well. Rodriguez was the top scorer in the FIFA 2014 World Cup. He scored 6 goals, and Messi only scored 4 goals. Did you even watch the World Cup? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldenBoy25 (talkcontribs) 22:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

borussia dortmond

dortmond has 6 super cup not 5 in 2008 dortmond 2/1 bayern please replay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Se killer (talkcontribs) 20:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Mario Götze

When did Mario Götze appear for Borussia Dortmund II? kicker magazine would have had that appearance on their website, but it's not there. Kingjeff (talk) 01:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

But if you go here and click on "Götze," it will take you to Fabian Götze's profile and not Mario's profile. Kingjeff (talk) 06:28, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

The stated by me source shows an interview where Ismael says that his grandmother (mother's side) and his mother spoke German. This suggests that the mother is Alsatian. For details, see a discussion between me and a author in the German language Wikipedia --Fröhlicher Schlesier (talk) 13:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

In the German-language edition of Wikipedia, I had the info entered that Ishmael's mother is from Alsace. Here, I used the source of "metropolregion". The proposed source of yours is now also used in the German-speaking colleagues and also here in the English language I have used this source. --Fröhlicher Schlesier (talk) 18:31, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

super cup

why you change the edit !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.69.160.194 (talk) 15:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

why you change edit !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Se killer (talkcontribs) 16:18, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

IP updating stats

Hi there JAELLEE, this is (former user) ALWAYS LEARNING, now vanished (but somehow still editing, guess i'm hooked),

regarding this message you sent this person (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:94.34.244.146), the following: 1 - he does not quit his "no-update" policies; 2 - has several other IP addresses; 3 - only seems to edit ACF Fiorentina players.

Having said that, all the best and happy editing --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:19, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

  • On an unrelated note, what has happened to Holger Badstuber? I saw him play the first two or three games of the season, but now he has not appeared (not even on the bench) in two or three months, don't tell me he has relapsed in his injury... --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
(talk page stalker): Hey man, just wanted to let you know that Badstuber tore muscle tendons in his leg on his third game back and will miss the rest of 2014 with this latest injury. Jared Preston (talk) 18:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it's really sad for him, but the fans tried to cheer him up in the Champions League match against Manchester City [1] (The banner said: "And if you fall, we help you rise. Carry on, Holger!"). --Jaellee (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Bad luck for Holger, really bad luck... Thanks for "stalking" JP, you take care as well, from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Translations

Hello Jaellee! Since you are a fluent German speaker, do you think you could help me translate these following sentences to English? It's for the 1998 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Final I'm working on (Post-match section). Here is the source. I have tried translating the sentences to English myself by using the inaccurate Google Translate, as you can probably see if you view the article, but I'm not sure if my translations are correct.

  • "Das wir über Fehler reden und daraus lernen müssen, heißt nicht, daß es notwendig ist, den Trainer zu wechseln".
  • "Es ist bitter, durch ein solches Tor zu verlieren".
  • "Der Verein muß sich endlich entscheiden. Es war mehr drin in dieser Saison. Wir haben etwa acht Spiele leichtfertig vergeben".
  • "Ich sehe dem Gespräch gelassen entgegen. Der Verein muß auf mich zukommen. Ich habe einen Vertrag bis 1999. Es müssen einige harte Worte fallen. Für mich ist die Saisonbilanz positiv".
  • "Man muß über vieles reden, so wie es dieses Jahr gelaufen ist, kann man nicht zusammenarbeiten".

Thanks. Arbero (talk) 14:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Still on the subject, if you please: added a couple of German refs to Ilie Sánchez's article, could you be so kind to review the translation please? Thank you very much in advance --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:06, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Added another on Rodrigo Ríos Lozano (#20). Thanks again! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

  • Situation addressed, the reference #21 seemed, more than incorrect, DEAD. Also, added much better ref for his honours, Soccerway.com is nothing but a link. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hello. If i may ask, why did you delete my second contribution in the De Jong article? the goal against Parma. I included a reference Khalidmilan (talk) 12:51, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
For the future, when you ask someone a question, you don't necessarily need to give them a barnstar. Its considered to be an award not a fun template.--Mishae (talk) 15:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Toni Kroos - Reply

Hello there,

well, the other user may have been a little hasty. Indeed, "Garçom" may be the correct form in BRAZILIAN Portuguese, but in PORTUGUESE Portuguese we use the word as in French, that is to say "Garçon" with the accentuated "c". Also, i don't feel he has any business altering the spelling of the word when it is not used exclusively a Portuguese context; obviously that, with the 2014 FIFA World Cup being held in Brazil, in that article it had a "Portuguese approach" to it.

Attentively (sorry, but i am not working on my "good" computer now. In this one, for reasons that escape me, i am not allowed to sign), hopefully i was of help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.90.219.128 (talk) 22:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Jorge Salinas Merging

Hi Jaellee please help. I must merge Jorge Salinas (Paraguayan footballer) into Jorge Salinas (footballer). Is possible? I create the first article by mistake. (talk) 3 November 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 03:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello, In this cite is mentioned 182 cm. It seems to me more realable. The dewiki also indicated that one. Hi, Csurla (talk) 22:05, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Here also 182 cm is his height. - Csurla (talk) 22:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Peter Vollmann

I couldn't find any schedules/statistics for when he was head coach of Rot-Weiß Lüdenscheid and Real Sportive. Do you know where I can find them? Kingjeff (talk) 23:15, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi there Jaellee, all well?

Out of respect for you and your work, I notify you of my changes in this player's article, one of which has to do with you: 1 - I removed the neverending sentence about his trials in Asia, all of them were unsuccessful, one is enough don't you agree? 2 (and this is the one that concerns you) - refs or no refs, runner-up positions in league do not count, only in cups.

All the best, from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 02:50, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Just to assure you, I mentioned the trials bit because I was thorough and mentioned ALL my changes in Friedrich's article, I know you did not add them, and I also know you did a great job outlining the refs display.

Schweini has returned, great news. A question to a Bayern fan: what is about Rafinha that makes Guardiola field him on 99% of the matches? Consistency maybe? After all those years in Germany I believe he must be proficient in the language as well, so there's another plus for him. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:29, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

So, what is your intake on Rafinha? --84.90.219.128 (talk) 18:45, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

  • I apologize for the hastiness and appreciate your complete commentary, and I also must learn this is an encyclopedia and not a football forum. Regarding the kicker football league, maybe you can hire me as your assistant to improve the team's fortunes ;) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 19:50, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

About Bastian Schweinsteiger

About Bastian Schweinsteiger
hey jaelle sorry about what i did on that page . but it was a usefull information that i included on that page :)

I hope u understand !!! Akutte20 (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Mehdi Benatia and Julian Green

Do we know if they are citizens of EU countries? Kingjeff (talk) 01:42, 23 December 2014 (UTC)