User talk:Jljm09

Advice Sought on Problem Article and Possible Contribution[edit]

I run a small web company that sells an unusual line of goods. I recently came across a well-intentioned Wikipedia article (done by 6 members of the Wikipedia staff)on how to install what I sell that ranges from mildly incorrect to wildly off. A few edits cannot provide a fix, because errors run all through the three-page contribution. How can I help? I would be glad to provide a contribution of my own, but I would need to know the following: (1) Could such a contribution be accepted if there is already an article on this subject in place? (2) If it could be accepted, how would my contribution relate to the existing one? Would they run together, or would one eclipse the other? (3) Would it be permissible for my contribution to refer or link to our company's commercial website, specifically to the non-commercial videos and 5,000-word text on installation that are generally considered the best available on this subject? Thanks very much for any advice and assistance you can provide.

Welcome to Wikipedia Jljm09

To briefly answer your questions (please note that we are all volunteers and as such there are no Wikipedia staff creating/editing articles)

Questions 1 & 2. If an article already exists on a topic then that article will remain and can be updated by any editor (subject to some rules, such as sourcing (see WP:RS and WP:Citing sources), notability (WP:Notability), in your case conflict of interest (WP:COI) and neutral point of view (WP:NPOV) would have to be taken into account. You cannot create another rival article about the same topic.

Question 3. Generally an article about a company can have a link to the main page of a company website in the Infobox. Linking to "how to" videos and/or texts would most likely be reverted as WP:Spam, as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a user manual or a means to showcasing a companys products.

I hope this helps, and also take a look at the links another user posted below which are a great way for a new user to get started. SeeTemplate:Help me if you need help on a specific aspect of editing. Best wishes JW 1961 Talk 00:43, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2021[edit]

Hello Jljm09,

Please be aware that self-promotional editing of any kind is forbidden on Wikipedia. Read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and comply before doing any further editing. This is mandatory. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:41, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Deer Fence (January 10)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by AngusWOOF were:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at Agricultural fencing. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This reads more like a how-to guide for deer fences written for another website.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Deer Fence and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:50, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jljm09! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:50, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived[edit]

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Checking in[edit]

Hey, Jljm09. I saw you asking for help regarding Draft:Deer Fence at the Teahouse a while back and wanted to check in. While I'm aware the draft was rejected due to reading more like a guide for the use of deer fences rather than an encyclopedic article, a draft rejection is fairly common for new editors, as creating an article from scratch is one of the most advanced tasks an editor can set out to do.

In addition to encouraging you to keep working at your draft to move it more in line with Wikipedia's purpose, I wanted to let you know about Wikibooks, one of our sister projects, whose purpose is to create a free library of educational textbooks. I believe your draft – in something very close to its current state (barring the direct links to storefronts) – would be welcome there, as much of its material consists of how-to guides.

Moreover, while I didn't ask before because I wanted to give you some room to breathe and because I wouldn't know much about the topic without researching, I could take some time to help edit your article to conform with Wikipedia's guidelines, because while I understand that it was rejected for good reason, it also seems like a waste – both because it could probably be a valuable entry with a couple more hours of work and because it's the first contribution from a good-faith editor with seemingly a lot of potential and enthusiasm.

In the meantime, I've listed 'deer fence' as a "promising draft" to hopefully better preserve it while I wait to hear back from you. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 20:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Deer Fence[edit]

Hello, Jljm09. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Deer Fence, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 08:02, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Deer Fence[edit]

Hello, Jljm09. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Deer Fence".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:21, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]