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This just in from America's Most Reliable Fake News Source:

U.S. — The raging dumpster fires of the nation held a press conference Monday at which they politely asked people to stop comparing them to American politics.

apologies: copyvio redacted

Source: The Babylon Bee --Guy Macon (talk) 23:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

That's arguable. #NoItIsn't, #YesItIs Atsme 💬 📧 23:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

New Section

New section. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:43, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

JzG good to see you back. Stay safe, stay well, and remember – it's always darkest just before dawn. Which isn't really true but hey, let's run with it! Alexbrn (talk) 19:36, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
I am also very happy to see you back, Guy. (And I thank you, (the other) Guy for your reminder above. I shouldn't have posted what I posted above. Especially because I AM very upset. But I meant it, and won't strike it). ---Sluzzelin talk 19:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- In my experience, the best way to stop talking about something is to stop talking about it. Getting in a few final words has been shown to be a far less effective strategy if your goal is to stop talking about it. I'm just saying. :) --Guy Macon (talk) 21:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  - You're right ---Sluzzelin talk 21:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
JzG, thanks for the link to the City of Detroit's motion for sanctions submitted to District Judge Linda V. Parker of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan relating to plaintiff's frivolous litigation and calling for disbarment of Counsel (including Sidney Powell) that you posted in the above thread, and the link to this order from Judge Craig A. Karsnitz revoking attorney L. Lin Wood's right to appear pro hac vice in the Delaware Superior Court. Both were interesting reading, and I recommend them to others interested in the potential for sanctions for attorneys who have allegedly acted unethically in their handling of cases relating to the 2020 US elections. EdChem (talk) 03:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Welcome back, —Paleo Neonate – 01:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Speaking of seeing the light...

Republicans can no longer ignore the reality of Donald Trump --Guy Macon (talk) 18:34, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Guy Macon, I wish I shared their optimism. I think the Republican Party is going to do a remarkably good impression of pretending none of this ever happened - except the "good" bits, like killing a mentally ill woman on death row. Guy (help! - typo?) 14:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Weapons and Warfare for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Weapons and Warfare is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weapons and Warfare until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Notice of ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. NedFausa (talk) 17:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, that was idiotic. --JBL (talk) 18:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, it was. JzG, I'll save you the hassle of having to look around. Basically, NedFausa was concerned that you still had the {{user admin}} userbox on your userpage when you are no longer an admin. I'm next on the alphabet, so the "verify" link pointed to me instead. NedFausa complained to me, and after looking into it I guessed that you had simply forgotten to remove them. NedFausa then dragged you to ANI. Shocking, I know. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).

Administrator changes

Hog Farm

Mattflaschen • Nandesuka • Savidan • Wangi

CheckUser changes

Berean Hunter • Xeno

Oversight changes

Someguy1221 • Xeno

Arbitration

The standard discretionary sanctions authorized for American Politics were amended by motion to cover post-1992 politics of United States and closely related people, replacing the 1932 cutoff.

Miscellaneous

Voting in the 2021 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2021, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2021, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
Wikipedia has now been around for 20 years, and recently saw its billionth edit!

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SaltySaltyTears

SaltySaltyTears is requesting unblock on UTRS. AmandaNP has said to extend them rope. Please let me know your thoughts. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:04, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I am confused. User:SaltySaltyTears says "This account has been confirmed by a CheckUser as a sockpuppet of Marteau, and it has been blocked indefinitely" but I see no checkuser who logged that determination at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Marteau/Archive. Without revealing too many details, is the general nature of the UTRS such that it no longer looks like they were socking? That they admit socking but promise not to do it again? --Guy Macon (talk) 06:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I just read User talk:SaltySaltyTears and see that they admit socking but promise not to do it again. (WP:ROPE seems fine to me). It still isn't clear whether they were blocked for WP:NOTHERE or for being a sockpuppet. Perhaps someone could add a note to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Marteau explaining the situation for future editors? --Guy Macon (talk) 06:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Deepfriedokra, they need to request unblock under their original account, Marteau (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), since they openly admit that SaltySaltyTears is a sockpuppet created in order to harass another user ([1]).

As to the merits of the Marteau block, I have no strong views. The Lobsterati are a consistently disruptive group, but I am not familiar with the specifics of that account. Guy (help! - typo?) 10:24, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

The unblock was granted by 5 albert square "on the conditions below that you do not interact with JzG and VolunteerMarek. This will be registered with WP:IBAN and is indefinite."

Per Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple#Marteau's appeal, "Why I am requesting this appeal using one of my sock accounts During a moment of frustration and in an attempt to enforce a Wikiretirement, prior to my being blocked for socking I removed the email address associated with my 'sockmaster' account ('Marteau') and set the password to a random string. That was effective in locking me out of my 'Marteau' account."

I am watching the account and will report them the instant they go back to the previous behavior. --Guy Macon (talk) 11:35, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

They claim they've lost the ability to appeal on that account and admit the connection. Under the circumstances, I think we can overlook that wrinkle. 5AS has unblocked with the proviso of zero tolerance for bad behavior. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:31, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Unprotection request

Hey there, I know you don't have the tools anymore, but I was wondering if you wanted to chime in on this unprotection request about Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Norway medical cases chart? bibliomaniac 1 5 00:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

TJMSmith

Boing! said Zebedee • Hiberniantears • Lear's Fool • Only • WGFinley

Interface administrator changes

AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect.
A request for comment asks if sysops may place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions?
There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.

Technical news

When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

Arbitration

By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people. Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed.

Miscellaneous

Following the 2021 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AmandaNP, Operator873, Stanglavine, Teles, and Wiki13.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Vaccination myths has been nominated for merging

Category:Vaccination myths has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

ARCA request regarding APLRS

Hey Guy,

GirthSummit opened an ARCA request regarding APLRS following the discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#The Volunteer (book). You're one of the "uninvolved" most familiar with the TA, so you may want to opine.

Cheers! François Robere (talk) 08:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)