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Sir James Hudson

Could you assess this new one for Yorkshire Project please ? - he is a Bessingby lad. Also, I can't find any cats for people from Yorkshire or people from East Riding - there might not be any - if there are, could you insert for me. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 23:17, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I have done the Yorkshire project assessment. It looks like the categories have been sorted out by someone else while I was away. Keith D (talk) 18:41, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Ecclesfield School

Hi Keith - Could you check this one please - Can a six edit newbie put a protection notice on a page ? And how does a six edit newbie know about such things ? Acabashi (talk) 18:29, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What he put on the page was a misplaced request for page protection. I've removed it and told him where to ask - ie WP:RPP. He's a six-edit newbie established since Dec 2010, but only interested in the one article: presumably a pupil, teacher or parent there? PamD 19:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Pam for looking after this while I was away. Keith D (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Article on Yorkshire dialect

Hi, Keith.

I noticed that you reviewed the article on Yorkshire Dialect back in 2007. I've done a lot of work on the article recently and hope that I've improved it. My main concern was to get everything referenced. You may notice that I have used one source (Petyt, 1985) a lot, but this is a 400-page book and is based on research of >100 speakers in West Yorkshire, so I think that this is justified. I have also used Urban Voices a lot, which is a standard text-book on British/Irish accents.

Is there a procedure for reviewing the article's C-rating? I hope that it's better than that now.

Best wishes Epa101 (talk) 09:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, just back from holiday so have only just had a look at the article though I had noticed your edits to it in recent weeks. Thanks for all the work you have done on this article. I have given it a B-class rating for now. Sorry but I have no specific knowledge of the topic so any detailed review would need to be done by someone with a good grasp of the subject. A couple of minor comments -

Ref 53 there appears to be an entry in the URL field of the template that is not a URL.
the KM Petyt references use both "Dialect and accent in industrial West Yorkshire" and "Dialect & Accent in Industrial West Yorkshire" these should all be "and" or "&" and standardise capitalisation depending on the title of the book.
"the accent of Hull and East Yorkshire" is a bit confusing as it could refer to the East Riding of Yorkshire or to the eastern part of Yorkshire.
"In the S.E.D." - I assume S.E.D. refers to the Survey of English Dialects may be could clarify by putting abbreviation after it in brackets.

Keith D (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Keith. I didn't realise that you'd already replied. You're right that the references need to be cleaned up. I'll see to that soon. With regards to point 3, the source is concerned with Hull but makes occasional points about the East Riding. I can't say that I know the rural East Riding well enough to comment on its speech. I imagine that there must be some point where west and east meet (perhaps Goole?). SED does refer to the Survey of English Dialects. I'll clarify that. Thanks for changing the rating! Epa101 (talk) 17:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I've investigated the part on the SED, which had escaped my attention previously. Actually the mapping of the Yorkshire dialect border had nothing to do with the SED, and the three researchers mentioned operated independently. The sentence had merged four projects into one. I have now altered it. Epa101 (talk) 18:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Market weighton map

Is the map link necessary? There are already several types of historical maps that are linked through geohack eg this http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/?zoom=15&lat=53.867815&lon=-0.664976&layers=B0000 is just the same as http://www.npemap.org.uk/tiles/map.html#487,441,1 Oranjblud (talk) 13:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

They have been added to station articles to give a direct link to OS for the station. You can get at them via the coords but that is a pain in the neck having to find them that way. A better method may be the box that gives direct links. Keith D (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Distance of Newport from London

Hi there. There is a debate running at Talk:Newport in which you might have an interest. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Ashby Canal extension

I know it was some time ago that you left a message on the Ashby Canal talk page about the new extension and stop lock, but I went there yesterday, and have uploaded three of my pictures to Commons, under Category:Ashby Canal. Bob1960evens (talk) 17:20, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Nutts Corner

Hi Keith D

Can you delete RAF Nutts Corner (and the talk page) for me please so i can move the Nutts Corner article to RAF Nutts Corner please as the Nutts Corner is all about the RAF station and the RAF one just redirects to it?

Thanks

Gavbadger (talk) 22:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, have done the delete. Keith D (talk) 22:54, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Gavbadger (talk) 22:56, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Dubious claims

The claims on Akebar where not dubious, they are real, just unrecognised. But I agree not to put them on the page, until I get evidence from an independent source.

SaluteChciken (talk) 00:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Missed your post

Hi Keith, Sorry I missed your post on May 3rd about WikiProject Yorkshire. Then it got archived. I'll alter the archive timing so it is less likely to happen again. I have been away myself and just editing on my phone for about a month. I should be around for a couple of weeks now, though, hopefully!! --Harkey _Talk 18:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear from you, I have only just managed to get the paper boy out of bed! I will be away for the Jubilee week so hopefully you will be around then. May be BT should get some hotspots around Hull so I can access from there! Keith D (talk) 18:30, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I should be around for the Jubilee Week. I've been roped into organizing something, but I'm not quite sure what it's supposed to be!! They can't make up their minds. Committees are not my favourite things. I agree about needing more hotspots. Also, out here in the sticks of North Yorkshire, we have no hope of fibre broadband for decades. Even the copper wires are starting to perish :-) --Harkey _Talk 19:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Help wanted

At the bottom of the Bingley St Ives article there is Category in red for Heritage Railway Stations in Bradford.

Bingley St Ives has no association with railway stations and this link appears to have been carried in on the back of some other feature on the page. Any ideas where the root of the problem is? Stuffed cat (talk) 23:12, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, looks like it is coming from {{Bradford}}. Need a colon adding at start of call to category but it is a red-link so not sure what exactly is required. Keith D (talk) 23:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Odd page rendering

Hi Keith,

Can you explain a phenomenon to me ? I have, infrequently, met this before. In the Digby, Lincolnshire article there has been added a pic, on 19:47, 25 May 2012‎ by TangoTizerWolfstone which has thrown the look of the page in peculiar fashion, with the “Further reading” header imprinted over another pic - you might have to squeeze your browser in and out to see this. Moving the “Further reading” up the page seems to correct this, but it would be good to know why this kind of thing happens. Do you know why it does ? Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 22:31, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The problem is caused by the left aligned image coming below the right aligned image in the wikitext. The infobox forces the first image below it and the second image has to come below the start point of the first image. The text which does not have such a restriction flows on and tries to fit round the image but the browser does not always get things exactly right. It would be best to move the first image below the second to get it to go where it is supposed to go. Keith D (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks Keith. Acabashi (talk) 00:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Bradford

sorrry for the weird placing of this new section (typing on my ipod touch and trying to make a new section is hard) anyway the protection on the bradford page is off again ipadresses have been editing again i was wonderin if you could protect again AdabowtheSecond (talk) 00:08, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I have protected again - have to see what happens when it drops off again to see if we can get back to normal without the protection. Keith D (talk) 00:25, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

OK thanks AdabowtheSecond (talk) 20:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Bishop of Middleton

Mark Davies (bishop of Middleton)

Hi,

the Bishop of Middleton does not wish the details of his child to be on the site. I removed them earlier and you placed them back. Nor does he want the picture of him and his family above the caption 'bishop plants a tree'. His son has a right to privacy and at present it is being infringed.

Today he announced his is to divorce from his wife so again the entry has inaccuracies.

David Marshall david@manchester.anglican.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.254.53 (talk) 17:03, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I reverted an IP removal of referenced material as it was removed without explanation and looked like censorship. I have now removed the name of son as that is really covered by our privacy policy though it is in the public domain. We do not censor articles as long as the information is publicly available and a reliable source can be supplied. Also what is given may not be the truth but what can be verified by sources, if the sources are wrong then we are wrong as we have to follow them. Keith D (talk) 17:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The picture with his family was added recently, replacing another one which actually matched the caption. I've reverted to that one. Even better would be to crop the family pic and get a good clear face-forward image of the bishop - but I haven't the skills/software to do that (thought I had, but can't get a file format that's suitable). It's not appropriate in general to have other people in the photo for the main image in a biographical article, and the fact that there's a child shown as well as another adult makes the image all the more inappropriate. PamD 18:49, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Pam. I had not investigated the image as having connection problems at the moment and things just keep hanging. Keith D (talk) 19:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I have created a cropped version showing the left edge of the image File:Bishop Mark Davies (Middleton .jpg will use it when the image is renamed on Commons. Slight typo attempting to use the new upload wizard. Keith D (talk) 22:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for requested changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.158.237.138 (talk) 10:07, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK

Thanks :/ --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 12:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)