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13:42, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

A quick look at a graph

If possible could you take a quick look at this graph discussed here [1]. Is this easy or complex to do? ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I am probably not the one to advise on this one though it looks feasible. May be you could ask at the village pump where there are probably more knowledgeable people on the graphing capabilities of the software. By the way the BOT producing the figures has been down since early February and have been unable to get response from those claiming to operate it. Keith D (talk) 21:47, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
That seems like the right way to go and I have put it on the Village pump. On a separate issue, three editors have agreed that the merge on the "Good" article and the "Evil" article from several months ago has not been working well for either article and not been helpful; it seems to require an un-merge to the original articles discussed at the end of the Talk page here [2]. We have allowed 30-days for the single hold-out editor to see if he could find any support for his position but he got no support at all. Could the three editors who are in agreement request for you to do the un-merge since the thirty day "wait" period seems to have been sufficient time to make a decision. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 18:50, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi, it looks as though the Evil article is essentially back to what it was before the merge. Unsure what is best for the the Good and evil article. You could return it to this version of 11 June 2016 but that would loose all of the useful edits since then. The other way is for you to edit out the parts that came from the Evil article and just leave the relevant bits, the diff of the old version and current version is where to start. Unfortunately there is no way of undoing a merge without reverting to an earlier version. Keith D (talk) 20:57, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the three of us who are at consensus on that Talk page were in agreement with the revert of both articles to the previous original versions because we were accepting that the newly merged article could continue to exist as a "themes" article for related interest on the singled out theme of "Good and evil." User:Andrew had already done the revert for un-merging the article on Evil at the end of January without objection in order to restore it. We do not have roll-back to allow the un-merge of the "Good" article back to its original form. All three of us at the Talk discussion were in agreement that the original article for "Good" should be restored, and the new article for the themes version titled "Good and evil" can retain all of its accumulated edits without deleting them. That way the original article for "Good" is restored and the accumulated edits for the new themes article can just stay there. If you could do this, then all three of us at the Talk page there are in agreement for it to be done. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Just to clarify you want this version of 11 June 2016 and earlier revisions split from Good and evil and placed somewhere else. The Good article has always been a dab page which had an entry for Good (religion) which is now just a redirect to it. Is that where you would want the above to go? Keith D (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back over the week-end. Yes that's the one, or even the one earlier on 3 June 2016 just before he started his edits here [3]. That would allow us to start looking to bring the article back into shape once its returned to its original form. While you are looking at it, I noticed that the main "Good" page itself is currently used not for the article itself but for the disambiguation page instead. This seems backwards and I would suggest this as a proper time to correctly call it the disambiguation page as "Good (disambiguation)" and move the real article from June 2016 into the simple page for "Good" as the main article without further qualification. We can then start in on the repair work once you decide which version is best for us to continue with page enhancements. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 15:46, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

New date in Use dmy template

I am curious to know the reason for changing the date in the Use dmy template at the top of Dachau concentration camp page. Thanks. Carlotm (talk) 02:41, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, the date is reset once the dates are in alignment in the article, this is to flag when that article was last brought into compliance. People can then deal with articles with the oldest categories first as these articles are more likely to have misaligned dates. Regards. Keith D (talk) 11:27, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Potternewton

Please check this one too if able. Thanks

Tech News: 2017-10

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Recent changes

  • You can now search on English, French, Hebrew and Greek wikis and find words even if you forget the diacritics. It also works if you use diacritics in your search but the wiki doesn't. [4]
  • When you use the mobile view and click on a link to an article in another language you will see that article in the mobile view. Previously it changed to the desktop view. [5]

Problems

  • Some watchlist gadgets didn't work for a period of time last week. This has now been fixed. [6]
  • Admins who click on "mass delete" on a user's Special:Contributions will be taken directly to a list pages created by that user. It has worked like this before, but not lately. [7]

Changes this week

  • The way you switch between wikitext and the visual editors in the desktop view has changed. It is now a drop-down menu. This is the same as in the mobile view. [8]
  • The "flag the edit in the abuse log" checkbox will be removed from the abuse filter interface. This is because the edits are always flagged in the abuse log. [9]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).

Meetings

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Clarification

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23:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2017-11

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Changes this week

  • You will be able to show references from <references /> tags in more than one column on your wiki. This is the list of footnotes for the sources in the article. How many columns you see will depend on how big your screen is. On some wikis, some templates already do this. Templates that use <references /> tags will need to be updated, and then later the change can happen for all reference lists. [10][11]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Some old web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis in the future. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [12]
  • CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. [13][14]

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15:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Nice page move for article on 'Good"

That was a nice page move you did on "Good" and the article development there is going forward. I just noticed that another page titled "Negligence" just went through the same type of page redirects without consensus, with a lone editor moving it to his preferred title of "Law of Negligence" along with that editor's pointer to a non-existing disambiguation page. I left a message for that editor here [15] about normal edit practice, but when I went to do the actual reverts to undo his edits, I received an edit-error message saying that only sysops could do this. Any chance you could look at this and return it to the simple previous "Negligence" article title. It is a previous featured article and ought to remain with the title which readers and editors are accustomed to seeing over the years. Cheers. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 16:47, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have reverted the page move, but cannot see why you could not do the move as it did not prompt me to delete the target redirect. Keith D (talk) 17:55, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Hull and Barnsley Railway line template

I note that the closed railway stations on this template all show the incorrect icons for open stations. Since you were a recent editor on this template, I thought it a matter of courtesy to raise this matter with you to see if the required amendments could be made by your good self.

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 11:31, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I can just about make minor edits to the route diagrams, usually by copying from existing ones, so not the right person to handle this. May be The joy of all things (talk · contribs) could be of assistance. Keith D (talk) 12:40, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Xenophon Philosopher I think the issue here is that the route diagram details the H & B between 1885 and 1923. If you look at the lines, none have the opacity lowered which indicates they are still all open, when in fact, only a fraction still exists (mostly that around Hull Docks) so technically all the stations and the track are displayed incorrectly. However, I assumed it was a snapshot of the line between the years given in the navbox. Whatever, as so much needs changing in the route box to align it with others (if that is what is actually needed), then a request detailing the changes proposed needs to be posted on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways as certain bold route box changes have been deemed controversial by the community recently. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 13:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Save page button now says Publish page or Publish changes on the Wikimedia wikis except for Wikipedias and Wikinewses. This change will come to Wikipedias later. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately. Publish page is when you save a new page and Publish changes when you edit an existing page. [16]
  • DMOZ no longer works. Templates that use DMOZ can be redirected to archive.org or another mirror. DMOZ has been removed from the RelatedSites extension on Wikivoyage. [17]
  • You can see monthly page views when you click on Page information in the sidebar. Developers can also get monthly page views through the API. [18]
  • The Linter extension is now on smaller Wikimedia wikis. It helps editors find some wikitext errors so they can be fixed. It will come to other Wikimedia wikis later. The extension will be able to find more errors later. [19]
  • The MediaWiki-Vagrant portable development environment has been updated to use Debian Jessie. This means local development and testing will be more like on the majority of Wikimedia production servers. [20]

Problems

  • On 15 March some interwiki links to other languages were not correctly sorted. This has been fixed. If you still see pages where the interwiki links are not sorted as they should be, they should be fixed automatically with time or you can edit the page and save it without changing anything. If this doesn't work, please report it. [21]

Changes this week

  • When you edit with the visual editor, you will be able to switch the direction you write in from right-to-left to left-to-right as you are editing. This is especially important for editors who edit in languages that write from right to left. You can do this with a tool in the editing menu. You can also use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+X on PCs or Cmd+Shift+X on Macs. [22]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Pre-Blight Irish Montreal

I'm just wondering why you're using the "{{Dead end|date=March 2017}}" issue template on Pre-Blight_Irish_Montreal. It seems to have sufficient links to other articles. Let me know if I'm wrong! —Formal Dude (talk) 03:32, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, the tag was already on the page when I edited it. I should have removed it when I converted the external links to wikilinks. Keith D (talk) 11:37, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-13

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Recent changes

  • When you edit with the visual editor, you can see a visual diff as well as a wikitext diff when you review your changes. [23]


Problems

  • Special:AllPages was disabled for two days due to some performance issues. It is back, but the filter for redirects is gone as the cause of the performance problem. It still needs to be fixed. [24][25]

Changes this week

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14:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2017).

Administrator changes

added TheDJ
removed Xnuala • CJ • Oldelpaso • Berean Hunter • Jimbo Wales • Andrew c • Karanacs • Modemac • Scott

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a discussion on the backlog of unpatrolled files, consensus was found to create a new user right for autopatrolling file uploads. Implementation progress can be tracked on Phabricator.
  • The BLPPROD grandfather clause, which stated that unreferenced biographies of living persons were only eligible for proposed deletion if they were created after March 18, 2010, has been removed following an RfC.
  • An RfC has closed with consensus to allow proposed deletion of files. The implementation process is ongoing.
  • After an unsuccessful proposal to automatically grant IP block exemption, consensus was found to relax the criteria for granting the user right from needing it to wanting it.

Technical news

  • After a recent RfC, moved pages will soon be featured in a queue similar to Special:NewPagesFeed and require patrolling. Moves by administrators, page movers, and autopatrolled editors will be automatically marked as patrolled.
  • Cookie blocks have been deployed. This extends the current autoblock system by setting a cookie for each block, which will then autoblock the user if they switch accounts, even under a new IP.
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Collaborations of the month April 2017

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22:44, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Population edits

You reverted one of my edits on Faldingworth. This is part of my work to restore some edits made by user:talk Bob Henshaw as detailed in the block log at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. That user added many unreferenced and often misleading statements about population figures. In this case although the information is correct I do not feel it necessary to restate the figures with a comparison to 2001 in the introduction when the correct 2011 figures are already stated in the info box - whether we do revert these is probably something that is best discussed on the incidents article. Dsergeant (talk) 16:59, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Personally I like both census figures as it gives you some comparison as to what happens between the census. I also have had to revert some of the AWB edits to these type of changes done by others as they are introducing contradictions into articles. Keith D (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Save page button now says Publish page or Publish changes on most Wikipedias. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately. Publish page is when you save a new page and Publish changes when you edit an existing page. [26]
  • The tracking category Category:Pages with template loops is now added when a template loop is found. A template loop is for example when a template tries to use a second template that uses the first template. [27]
  • English Wikipedia now has cookie blocks. It will come to more wikis in the future. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [28]

Problems

  • Wikidata descriptions, aliases and labels that used some characters could not be saved. This has now been fixed. [29]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next office hour with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on 5 April at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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17:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Access date question

Hi, Keith D. I saw your edit summary here and thought I would give you an answer. I started the article in one of my sandboxes back in 2010, but I only put it up last evening after I saw that the subject recently passed away. I should have double checked the citations prior to posting. Thanks for cleaning it up! - Location (talk) 13:36, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Move request

A request to change the title and content of a comics article has begun at Talk:X-Men (film series)#Requested move 7 April 2017. Any interested WikiProject:Comics editor may comment there within one week. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:29, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Thomas Fairfax (Gilling)

Please check refs. Thanks101.182.51.93 (talk) 09:09, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-15

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Recent changes

Changes this week

  • Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [32]
  • New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Russian, Turkish and French Wikipedia on 11 April. The schedule has been changed to fix the user intent prediction filters for some wikis. User intent prediction means the filter tries to make it easier for editors to determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [33]
  • The list of special characters in the wikitext editor and the visual editor will now have a group of Canadian Aboriginal characters. [34]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
  • RevisionSlider will change how you move between revisions. This will be available on the test wiki from 11 April. It will come to other wikis later if users like the change. You can test it and give feedback.

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18:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Edward Marjoribanks, 2nd Baron Tweedmouth

I have stuffed up a new ref - number 24 - please leave in quote and thanks as usual. Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.60.171 (talk) 08:19, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can add ?safemode=1 to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature?safemode=1. This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them. [35]
  • You can now see a list of all autoblocks on Special:AutoblockList. [36]
  • The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from [[File:Wiki.png]]. If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way. [37]

Problems

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.

Changes this week

  • There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • stats.wikimedia.org will be replaced. You can see the new prototype. You can leave feedback on this change.
  • Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback. [38]
  • From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. [39][40]

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19:32, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Change for page

Hi User:Keith D, just wondered can you make an edit to Maiorana page please? That the name is Norman French in origin, on page 326 of this source Della Calabria illustrata the book states that the fleur-de-lis in the coat of arms of the family also indicates a Norman origin. I just don't do edits on that scale, because more than likely no one will edit the page for many months, leaving my mistakes (that become Wikipedia's mistakes) on show. You'd just have to blank the page then change categories to Norman and "Maiorana is an Italian surname" to "Maiorana is a Norman French surname" (Good examples of Norman names are Banister (surname) and Molyneux). Hope you can help, thanks.--Theo Mandela (talk) 21:05, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

Changes this week

  • The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit. [44]
  • Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this. [45]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Richard Monckton Milnes, 1st Baron Houghton

Hi Keith could you please check Richard Monckton Milnes, 1st Baron Milnes. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:4F0A:F100:253D:8D25:6DA1:FC3A (talk) 13:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I think this is the article you mean that I have done. Keith D (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Your expertise required

Hi Keith

With your "Yorkshire" expertise, could you please make a comment on the TALK page RE "where the Lupton family page sits in the importance scale of Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Assessment". I believe it would now be of "mid-importance".

Cheers Ted

Tech News: 2017-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.

Changes this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [49]
  • The Publish changes, Show preview and Show changes buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding &ooui=1 to the URL. [50]

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19:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - May 2017

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21:44, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2017).

Administrator changes

added Karanacs • Berean Hunter • GoldenRing • Dlohcierekim
removed Gdr • Tyrenius • JYolkowski • Longhair • Master Thief Garrett • Aaron Brenneman • Laser brain • JzG • Dragons flight

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Miscellaneous

  • Following an RfC, the editing restrictions page is now split into a list of active restrictions and an archive of those that are old or on inactive accounts. Make sure to check both pages if searching for a restriction.
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