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 Fixed -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Physics Wallah - Speedy Deletion template

I don't think that physics wallah Wikipage should be deleted as it is one of the notable ed tech platform being in news from past 2 years. I request you to put down the speedy deletion template on the page.

  • I will be adding more citations and information to the above mentioned page. Qwertyuiop84919 (talk) 07:32, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
@Qwertyuiop84919: this is the wrong place to put your counter-argument. Please add your reasoning to Talk:Physics Wallah. Also read the AfD discussion. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:35, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

wikidata, a request to you

Hi @ MPGuy2824. I have created Bugry (disambiguation) (Russian localities) which should be linked to the Russian Бугры but... Unfortunately, the English (and German) version has Bugri (disambiguation about two athletes). Ukrainian Бугри and Polish Bugry are connected correctly. Please straighten it - I could make a mistake. Regards. ThWiki1910 (talk) 16:20, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Doubt about reviewing and indexing

Hi @MPGuy2824 Im new to Wikipedia. I made a page some days back, but now I realized that I made it directly without submitting draft. I added the AfC tag, because the page is still not indexed. Could you please just confirm if my page Infinito (festival) is now submitted for review and will it get indexed? Or do I have to start all over again? If possible, please review the page. Notashfaq (talk) 06:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)Notashfaq

@Notashfaq: There is no need of that tag/template, since the article is not a draft. I've removed it. I can confirm that the article is in the New Page Review queue. As soon as someone marks the page as reviewed, it can be indexed by search engines. Tagging Anthony Appleyard also, since you asked him the same question. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

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भाई किस एरिया से हो? Dantakelwara (talk) 05:23, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Dantakelwara: I live in MP. I'd prefer not to give a more specific location. Why are you asking? Is there an offline wiki meetup or something? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:53, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Tek Fog

All screenshots are forged, for example in the article shared by 'The wire', I 3 screenshots consisting of both teg app and twitter contain same IP address starting with 172 ( “172” and the “192” address ranges are designated for private use), so it clearly showcase that screenshots are fake...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:681F:886C:C5C3:29BD:2679:892D (talk) 11:37, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I'd appreciate if you give me an image link from The Wire and read this. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:15, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism on Indian constituency pages

Hi. There is an IP which is continuously making disruptive edits on Indian constituency pages. This person changes the party of constituency winners to BJP on many of these pages. Currently undertaking vandalism from this IP. I have tried to revert these changes but the IP user makes the changes again. Could you please check this out? Thanks. Dhruv edits (talk) 09:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

I've noticed similar changes on other constituency articles as well. I've reverted their other changes and warned the IP. If it continues we can escalate the warnings upto a block. Is there anything else that can be done? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
I have written explanations on edit summary as well, but it's been of no use. I wonder if something more can be done. I have about 10 such IPs with similar edits, quite obvious they all belong to one user who is putting BJP in place of other parties. This person makes such edits to a few constituency articles, and then some days later does the same to other constituency articles with a different IP.
Could you put this on WP talk page, some other editor may have insight for permanent end to this. I am not sure how to approach admins regarding this as well, since by the time you discover these edits, the user has long stopped using that IP and jumps on a new one and I am not well versed with protocol regarding reporting incidents.
Some other IPs - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11. These are all in about last month. Dhruv edits (talk) 12:09, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
This person has started making disruptive edits through this IP now. Dhruv edits (talk) 07:44, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
I've posted it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Vandalism on Indian constituency pages. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:48, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Teahouse

Can you say something at Wikipedia:Teahouse#User:খাঁটি বাঙালি since you reviewed the draftifications that I made on the articles created by User:খাঁটি বাঙালি. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 05:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Itcouldbepossible: I don't think that this falls under the purview of WP:Teahouse. The user can (and has) been warned on their talk page. If there are enough infractions it can be taken to WP:ANI. Also, for articles being draftified, it is usual for a patroller to mark the redirect as reviewed since there is nothing more that can be done at the NPP level for that redirect. An admin will later come and delete the redirect completely. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Can we publish personal article at wikipedia? Binod Acharya 2001 (talk) 12:38, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@Binod Acharya 2001: Depends. please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Notability -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:40, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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@MPGuy2824:

Thank you so much for your guidance.

Ramesh Babu Toomula (talk) 03:52, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics § Proposal : Wikipedia:Naming conventions Indian constituencies

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics § Proposal : Wikipedia:Naming conventions Indian constituencies. Venkat TL (talk) 10:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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I already added notable news reference in the article "RJ Raawat"

Dear Wikipedian,

I have already added notable news reference (Reference No. 5) with the article (RJ Raawat), please consider my humble request to accept this article. If you think there is a mistake or this article is not in neutral language then please help me to fix it. I am making this article only after reading Wikipedia notable policy where they mention that if there is any single notable reference then we can make a page about it.

Thank you with warm regards! Snyjhon (talk) 13:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

@Snyjhon:, I mostly review politician's articles, and you'll agree that RJ Raawat does not pass WP:NPOLITICIAN, since he hasn't won a legislative assembly election. Given that, he has to pass WP:GNG, which is a higher bar to cross. Reviewers with more experience than me take care of those types of articles. If you can find another source like the Dainik Jagran one, that also talks about the subject in depth, then I'm pretty sure that this article will pass review. I've done a bit cleanup and added a few maint tags to the article, which you can take care of. If you can get his full name and use that in the article, it would be better. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedian, MPGuy2824
Thank you so much for helping me with this article. Your added tag helped me a lot to fix the article. Now I have removed the political content in this article, also I have removed the political category. According to your guidelines, I have made changes in the article. Now please approve this article.
Thank you with regards! Snyjhon (talk) 13:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Dear @Wikipedian
Full name has been added in this page with reference from government portal. Please its my humble request to you, remove the tag from this page.
Thank you with regards! Snyjhon (talk) 21:35, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Snyjhon, the notability tag can be removed by anyone (including you). Please read WP:GNG and verify for yourself if Raawat passes those criteria, before doing that though. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

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hello sir please help me how to increase importance of my article from low to mid/high? so that my article get proper indexing on google search engine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Batmantec (talk • contribs) 19:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

@Batmantec: the importance assigned to an article has no relation to google indexing. Also, the K. P. Tripathi article seems to be already indexed by google. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:15, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Why are you tagging every article for deletion?

You tagged lots of articles for deletion because they fail notability criteria. Previously all schools and colleges are supposed to be notable. However, recently criteria changes a bit. However, tagging all articles for deletion is ridiculous and also a waste of time. Some other person will again create this article. There are many village articles, then all are supposed to be deleted. At least schools/colleges are educating the next generation; villages are nothing. Try to improve articles by adding citations, and more independent references. In Europe/USA, almost all schools/colleges have significant coverage in newspapers. In India nobody cares about education; newspapers do not cover school/college-related articles. In that sense, almost all Indian educational institutions are not notable. Please try to improve articles rather than tagging everything. Create some articles or improve some articles. Soumitrahazra

In India, temples have significant coverage in newspapers. Temples are notable but not schools as they do not have coverage in newspaper. Even 100-year-old schools does not have any coverage. India will never be a developed country as long as Indians do not change their mentality.... Soumitrahazra

@Soumitrahazra: you are right. The notability criteria for schools have been made much stricter since you created many of these articles. Now schools have to pass WP:GNG. Previously, it was enough to just prove that they exist/existed.
Actually, even temples have to pass the WP:NRELORG criteria for notability.
The problem with many schools is that they aren't sources which would prove that they are notable. They clutter up the maintenance queues of various projects due to this reason.
You say that "some other person will again create these articles": This may be true, but they will not pass New page Review now, if they use the same sources.
On the other hand, villages have just to pass the WP:GEOLAND criteria. I too have wished that Wikipedia editors would have agreed to much stricter WP:GEOLAND criteria.
Also, just to put away your concern, tagging articles for PROD/deletion is far from the only thing that I do on Wikipedia. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
@Soumitrahazra: I noticed that you've removed a few of the PROD notices. I'd suggest that you improve the articles while doing this. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

MPGuy2824, WP India AfD consensus is that degree-awarding institutions are assumed notable. That means that prodding the likes of Government College, Kodanchery, while good intentioned, is unproductive. Zindor (talk) 23:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Zindor: Degrees are awarded by the university that a college is affiliated to (in this case, Calicut University). The individual colleges are not automatically notable, but have to pass WP:NSCHOOL, whose criteria have been made much stricter in 2017. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
I could have phrased it differently but who stamps the certificate is a technicality that rarely alters the AfD outcomes for the project. It has done, i'm sure affiliates have been deleted, but they were basically satellite campuses. I've not been retired that long lol, i'm versed on NSCHOOL, WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES etc. NSCHOOL is simply too blunt for Indian education institution articles. There is a dearth of available sources about these places, so by towing a hard line we would lose so much valuable content and it would prevent the creation of more valuable content. Wikiproject India has its own consensus and as a senior project it is normal practice to deferr to it. Sure, prods can be a way to get an article improved, but it's Russian roulette. I'm not going to remove the prod, i'm staying retired, but do consider that the information on this website would be enough to sway an AfD in favour of inclusion even though the source is primary. All the best, Zindor (talk) 12:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
I'll be limiting my prod tagging while this discussion is going on, but could you point me to the relevant WP India policy on this? Maybe I'm not thinking of the right term to search for, but I'm unable to find this.-MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
I doubt you'll find any policy or guideline pages on this. It's a consensus that has formed due to AfD discussions, so is documented in those and secondarily in noticeboard discussions. I won't bother supplying links, these discussions are numerous and common.
We can look at the article in question in relation to the consensus. Back in August 2020, when doing NPP, i draftified the Government College, Kodancherry article as i wasn't happy with the article becoming permanent in mainspace with only primary sources supporting it (you probably agree). I felt it was fair game. I was reverted by SD0001 and it entered mainspace permanently. I was already aware of the deletion consensus, so didn't try and remove it from mainspace. Secondary to that i trusted the editor's judgement and there were no promo indications. However, in honesty i was a cheeky b* and i slipped a noindex tag in there to delay the indexing ;) Looking at the article objectively, it's a keeper, i was indiscriminately tarring it with the same brush i would for articles outside the project.
It is apparent that the sympathies that are the basis of the deletion consensus do transpose to NPP. Looking at the semantics, being inclusionist about content we already have is different to being inclusive about arriving content, but to what extent is that important? Who knows, NPR is more of a cabal area...
There are several points to analyse:
  • 1) Does local consensus for a senior wikiproject override project-wide policy such as NSCHOOL?
Yes, it does. It's important because these projects know their subject area and the sensibilities surrounding it. NSCHOOL was confirmed by majority western editors without regard for the Indian situation. It doesn't apply.
  • 2) Is consensus valid if solidified from multiple comparable discussions?
Yes, it's one of the original methods on Wikipedia. However, it's old-fashioned and isn't used anymore because it's much harder to convince people who are unaware of the consensus (hence this discussion). That's one reason centralised policy and guideline pages exist.
  • 3) If the method is old-fashioned, why doesn't NSCHOOLS have this India exception clearly written?
Because we have a working solution. Nobody addresses the elephant in the room and we just get on with it. Two conflicting texts is not a good idea.
I hope this helps. Kind regards, Zindor (talk) 00:07, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for your detailed explanation. I'll look out for these AfD discussions regarding Indian colleges. I was wondering why you haven't yet de-PRODed the article in question. (I won't consider it antagonistic.:-)) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:54, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks but unfortunately making a potentially controversial edit in mainspace goes against the ethos of retirement. Also i retired in response to the WMF seizing yet more control of en-wiki, and the quisling cabal letting them, so there's wider political issues why i refrain from editing. Zindor (talk) 10:32, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824 Can you please limit your deletion activity to school articles that are promotional AND have zero coverage in media. Venkat TL (talk) 12:37, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Venkat, Like i said above, I'll curb my PROD tagging for some time. But, i still believe that even schools, with only trivial mentions in media, should be tagged. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
yes, but a lot depends on "What" media. A school mentioned in international media or nation wide media, is almost 100% certain to be notable and have significant coverage in local media. But access to local media is not easy for us, so I assume good faith. If something is borderline, I will prefer keep. So I was suggesting you to delete those that you are sure will not have coverage in Media. Another WP:ATD is to redirect the non notable school that is verified to exist, to the city or corresponding geographical article. The education section can have the name with the ref. Venkat TL (talk) 12:08, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Article

I will love to re edit the article don't delete Naijawaves (talk) 17:50, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Article Correction and publishing

Greetings sir I have re edit the article and make some corrections on the text. please go through it and release the article for publishing so it appear on google search engine.


Thanks sir Naijawaves (talk) 22:27, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

@Naijawaves: Did you mean Draft:Jasperking? I've just draftified it. Work on it there and then submit it for review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:35, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Have worked on it sir. Approved the article it a biography for an artist. Naijawaves (talk) 17:42, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
@Naijawaves:, I'm not part of WP:AFC. Please submit the article for review (the blue button) and an AfC member will take a look at your article. As of now, it won't pass muster since you'll have to show notability. Please read WP:N and WP:RS before you look for better sources. I'll improve the draft a bit. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Jasperking Biography

Don't delete the article, it for an artist Naijawaves (talk) 17:40, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums on constituency articles

I don't think the WikiProject scope covers the constituency articles but only the election articles — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:18, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

DaxServer, they feature some constituencies in their Recognized content section though. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:22, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
ahh i see — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:41, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Review this two page

M. Panneerselvam (Sirkazhi MLA) from Sirkazhi Assembly constituency, check bio link he was 66 year old and his father name was Muniyani. M. Panneerselvam (Sirkazhi MLA) was first won 2006 Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly election, also chekc this politician M. Panneerselvam he represent from Ambur Assembly constituency. I thought both are from same Kindly review. --IJohnKennadytalk 07:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

IJohnKennady, They don't seem to be the same person. Panneerselvam 2 (P2) was 66 years old in 2021, which makes his birth year around 1955. On the other hand, Panneerselvam 1 won the 1967 election from Ambur, when P2 was about 12 years old. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Need Disambiguation

--IJohnKennadytalk 06:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Dharmapuri (disambiguation) already exists. I've added a few more to the list there. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:51, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. IJohnKennadytalk 22:58, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Need suggestion

How to rename above list as per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indian constituencies)

--IJohnKennadytalk 06:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

For Ghanpur, we can call it "Ghanpur Station Assembly constituency". I'm not sure about the other one. You could rename it to "Secunderabad Cantt. Assembly constituency" OR "Secunderabad Cantonment Assembly constituency". I prefer the second option. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Need call back 🔙

Need call back bro 7418770093 27.5.95.73 (talk) 21:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

I'd prefer to keep all my wiki-related communication on this (or your) talk page. What help do you require? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Diplomatic missions in the Maldives

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A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for the quick and painless review. We need more "New page reviewers" like yourself working on the encyclopedia. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 02:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Page Duplication

Kindly do the needful A M V Prabhakara Raja and A. M. V. Prabhakara Raja

-IJohnKennadytalk 05:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi IJohnKennady, you should read WP:MERGE. You can easily mark two articles for merging using Wikipedia:Twinkle, which is a useful set of scripts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
check this, How it will be take for complete merge? or Any other speedy process is there... IJohnKennadytalk 06:47, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
You didn't add the requisite tags to the article pages. I've done that now. If there is no objection to the merge, anyone (including either of us) can close the discussion in a week. After that the merge can be performed. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

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Notability on Keshav Sthapit

Did you read the full article and checked references before tagging notability tag? A minister of the state, 2 times mayor of metropolitan city, capital of Nepal doesn't meet the notability guidelines? Are you well aware about WP:POLITICIAN Owlf 📪 17:37, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Mayors do not pass WP:NPOL. But after some searching, I was able to find a source to show that he was a member of the Bagmati Province Assembly. This article now passes WP:NPOL. I've added those details, removed the notability tag and marked the article as reviewed. Thanks for pointing this article out to me for a relook. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Page Duplication 2

This is also Salem R Rajendran and R. Rajendran (DMK politician), the final page name should be same in 2nd one --IJohnKennadytalk 08:02, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

You created the second article. You should have just moved the first article. Anyway, i've added the merge tags. Please don't just do a redirect without merging since there is info in the first article that isn't in the second. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
by mistake, creadted second article IJohnKennadytalk 05:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Page Duplication 3

Thanks in advance. --IJohnKennadytalk 06:23, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Added merge tags to the first two. It is not obvious that N. Palaniswamy and Pongalur N. Palanisamy are the same person. Can you find some refs and add them to each article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:47, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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Draftifications

Hello, MPGuy2824,

Thanks for all of your work on Wikipedia. But I think you should be more judicious with the Draftification tools. I think it would be demoralizing for an editor to return to Wikipedia to do work and find 7 or 8 (or more!) notices on their talk page that their articles have been moved to Draft space.

I understand doing this if you think that there is a danger of the articles being tagged for deletion but, for example, you shouldn't go through an editor's Contributions and draftify all of their recent articles. Don't draftify to make a point but to move promising articles, that could be tagged for deletion, to Draft space where an editor can continue to work and improve them. There may not be the urgency to send them all to Draft space in one day. Thanks again for your reviewing and patrolling, it's greatly appreciated! Liz Read! Talk! 01:45, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: I wasn't going through a particular editor's contributions while draftifying. Actually it was while going through SDZeroBot's NPP Sorting pages, where those articles were close together, and had the same problems. I do take your point of it being demoralizing to an editor. I'll try to keep it to 1-2 a day per editor, in the future. I've also written both of them a note to explain the issue/s, and how to improve the articles. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:56, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Kadapa district

Hey! I rerated it to be a C class as there's a lot of unsourced content ;) — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

No problem. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Help Deen Mohammad

May i create Deen Mohammad it was drafted last time by a blocked user. He was a Member of the Legislative Assembly from Tijara Assembly constituency. —|Botu Yadav (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2022 (UTC)|

If you are able to find enough WP:RS for him, then definitely create the article. Btw, it doesn't really matter, but the draftifying user requested a self-block. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Semecarpus magnificum

Hi. The reference you placed was to Semecarpus magnificUS, not Semecarpus magnificUM, the latter not existing. YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

@YorkshireExpat: So it is. Good catch. My guess would be that the creator did a typo. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
I've pinged them to see if that is the case. YorkshireExpat (talk) 08:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Page reviewing

Hello @MPGuy2824. I am a autopatrolled user and thought that my pages are no longer being reviewed by new page reviewers. However, you just did that with a page I created (The worst person you know). Are AfD'ed pages going through a different backlog? I'm just curious how this works. PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:47, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

@PhotographyEdits: I guess because the page was AfD'ed, it showed up on a filtered feed within the "New pages feed". The only thing currently there, created by you, is Network-In-a-Box, which you created before you got the autopatrolled right. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:14, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824 Ah, that makes sense! Thanks for explaining. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:47, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello MPGuy2824,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 10811 articles, as of 14:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

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Article of Shaligram Yadav

Hi thankyou for your response MPGuy2824

I was hoping for updating infobox office holder which I don't know how to do but I don't mind if you would make changes to the page 103.10.28.183 (talk) 08:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done Now next time, you know how to do that. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:24, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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(t · c) buidhe 20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Deletion sorting

I noticed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Disambiguations that you added both Cover story and Arthur Harley even though they were already there. Please take care to check to see if an AfD is already listed to avoid needless duplication. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 18:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Of course. Not my intention. Luckily, there is a bot for everything, eh? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Geetika Mehandru

Hello @MPGuy2824 @Praxidicae I hope you're doing well. My revert was not against anyone. I dont know about previous version. But I'm sure its different from last one. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:33, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's the way it's supposed to go, but if we are stuck with the new AfD, then i'm ok with discussing it there. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Note on merge proposals

Hi, I see that you have tagged two pages to be merged with Riga – Daugavpils Railway and started no discussion on any relevant talk page. This wastes the community's time. If you feel a one-line article isn't itself notable, you can simply redirect it to a related article. One-line articles aren't worth to be discussed in merge proposals. ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:24, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Odd. I used Twinkle and it usually does this properly. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:31, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
the merge discussion threads were made on an incorrect talk page. I'm trying to fix this mess but I don't think it is worth discussion. Just be BOLD ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
I'll try redirecting, but I've found that for relatively new pages (<1 year old), the creator immediately reverts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:36, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
To avoid reverts, we usually explain in the edit summary why the subject doesn't merit a standalone article. If the creator doesn't desist, we can simply move to seek a broader consensus. I hope this is helpful. ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:39, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Deprodding of Challavanipeta

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Challavanipeta, which you proposed for deletion. A simple Google search clarifies the existence of the village. I am improving it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 05:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

If you are able to find WP:RS in a google search (i wasn't), then please add them to the article in question. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
If you want, i can move this article to Draft space, while you are improving it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Page mover granted

Hello, MPGuy2824. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Primefac (talk) 08:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Jagataren Devi Sudin

I see you added {{failed verification}} tag on this article. Have you opened that PDF and checked out for the name on page-2? There's her name mentioned on it as a member of the province assembly. Could you confirm? Kind regards, — Tulsi 24x7 09:18, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Removed the tag, after re-checking. I'm not sure how i missed it last time. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:14, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
I see you are creating similar articles for other Nepali politicians. Feel free to use the above-mentioned source in those too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

AFD

I have closed this [1] afd which was previously and requested for self delete. Regards,  DIVINE  14:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Saman Tabrez Ansari

Hello, Hope you are fine. I saw the article of Saman Tabrez Ansari and got to know that her articles are either In Focus or Brand Media articles and that means she has done the Press Releases. Please take it to AfD. Thank you ——|Botu Yadav (talk) 10:23, 16 July 2022 (UTC)|——

AllyD has now taken this article to AfD. You should mention your issues with the article there too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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Need Help!

Hello, Dear MPGuy2824 Hope you are well.

I am here asking for help on creating articles of State Ministry on which a minister held on. Will it be good? Ministries like Health Department, Education Department and all like those. •••|Botu Yadav (talk) 08:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)|•••

Botu, as always, if you have enough sources to meet WP:GNG, then an article on a state ministry will pass review. Make sure that you have the correct name of the ministry (i.e. ministry or department) and take inspiration from the similar articles about ministries in other states. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank You MPGuy2824. For helping, will do the same as you told. •••|Botu Yadav (talk) 07:12, 3 August 2022 (UTC)|•••

I want to create those like, Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs (Maharashtra), Ministry of Cultural Affairs (Maharashtra) and Ministry of Tourism (Maharashtra)

Can you also help me in editing those articles?

•••|Botu Yadav (talk) 07:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)|•••

Hi Botu, please start a draft and ping me from there. I'll help with a draft as much as i can. Then hopefully, you would have got the hang of it to do the rest yourself. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
@Botu Yadav I have created one combined article at List of ministers in the Government of Punjab, India Venkat TL (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL Thanks to you. Will try to create the best one after checking your article also and others also.

Thanks for help

•••|Botu Yadav (talk) 07:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)|•••

@Botu Yadav The sourcing and referencing is more important in these kind of list articles. Venkat TL (talk) 07:36, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL Ok, will remember this. ••• |Botu Yadav (talk) 07:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)| •••

Haemolymph: Invisible Blood

Hello @MPGuy2824 I hope you're doing well. Their's a similiar article Haemolymph (film) already been reviewed. Now its been merge into Haemolymph: Invisible Blood. Can you please review and mark the article as page triage. I intend to work and expand the article. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 04:41, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP awards

One thought - the awards pages does not say the barnstars are for reviewing articles only. Since dozens of redirects can be reviewed in the time it takes to review one article - I assume that they are meant for articles only; note that there is a separate barnstar for redirect reviews. You may want to clarify that. I have asked that the reviewer activity report be updated to show redirect reviews separately, but don't know when that will happen. Thank's for your help. MB 15:14, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

I think for the 4-year backlog we should award barnstars based on articles only. We can add a weightage for redirects also, for the 2022 awards. For the redirect barnstar (Redirect Ninja), i'll do some quarrying to see the top redirect reviewers and then create a proposal to make the award of that barnstar a bit more objective (e.g. >X redirect reviews). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Great. It looks like this is turning into a bit more that giving the awards - now we are in to restructuring them also. Glad you are willing to oversee all this. MB 02:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
I just looked at your 2018 list. I think that includes redirects (I don't believe that I reviewed 1341 articles). But there is probably no easy way to separate out redirects. For now, we may have to just go by the total number of reviews of any kind. MB 04:30, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
I've pinged InsertCleverPhraseHere to take a look at my quarry, since they were the ones who gave out the barnstars last time. Hopefully they have the time to look at it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Hey, see User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)#NPP_stats for a quarry to get just redirects or articles. MB 16:50, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Thank you for the Tag awards. I had almost forgotten about it. Venkat TL (talk) 18:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
How did you remember it? and who will give you the awards? --Venkat TL (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Dunno, it just struck me. I checked to see if someone had done it and nobody had. Don't worry. I gave myself the barnstars and then moved them out of my talk page. It seemed a bit weird to award them to myself, but i've seen other people do it when they are also giving out awards to other folk at the same time. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes, I was wondering the same. I would have asked someone active in the tagging list, to do the honors. Venkat TL (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello MPGuy2824,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination
MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
Open letter to the WMF
The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
TIP - Reviewing by subject
Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
New reviewers
The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
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Thanks

Thanks for jumping in as NPP barnstar coordinator. I appreciate you taking ownership of it and just handling it. For awhile I was giving barnstars to the top 3 Pending Changes Reviewers monthly. I like barnstars and I think it's friendly and motivating, so it's an important task :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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